On 26 Jun 2004 01:26:28 GMT, something compelled
(JAXAshby), to say:

The same engine producing less horsepower will last longer than if it
produced max power ... you have a certain amount of horsepower hours in
the machine, take them all out in a hurry or stretch them out, it's up
to you.

rick just gain the hammer mechanic's point of view. Like most things hammer
mechanics say, it is wrong.

"horsepower hours" (what a weird thing for rick to say) go up as the engine is
used "more nicely". Expensive, finely tuned Indy race car engines won't go
that many miles past 500 at WFO throttle, but will last thousands of hours if
you don't beat the crap out of them.

Apparently you can read faster than you can think, as well.

steve, it is near 10:00 at night and you have had too much to drink. you are
incoherent.

From: "Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam"
Date: 6/25/2004 9:46 PM Eastern Standard Time
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On 26 Jun 2004 01:26:28 GMT, something compelled
(JAXAshby), to say:

The same engine producing less horsepower will last longer than if it
produced max power ... you have a certain amount of horsepower hours in
the machine, take them all out in a hurry or stretch them out, it's up
to you.

rick just gain the hammer mechanic's point of view. Like most things hammer
mechanics say, it is wrong.

"horsepower hours" (what a weird thing for rick to say) go up as the engine
is
used "more nicely". Expensive, finely tuned Indy race car engines won't go
that many miles past 500 at WFO throttle, but will last thousands of hours
if
you don't beat the crap out of them.

Apparently you can read faster than you can think, as well.

I made no mention at all of radial engines, those antiques of more than a half
century ago. They were not under discussion by anyone in this universe. in
rickie's universe or your universe maybe, but not this universe as the term is
used by 6,000,000,000 people.

gene, oil pumps (on the engines under discussion) sit in the oil sump bathed
in
oil. They are ready to pump oil on rev #1.

How about having enough experience to know that outside of a
theoretically perfect pump, that the pump is not primed and won't be
so without spinning it fast enough?



They certainly are NOT in the sump..... that single statement shows
that you have no idea about the construction of these engines. In
fact, half of the engines that you have expounded upon are dry sump
engines...... good grief...... clueless....

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until scraped off by the oil control ring

you obviously don't have a clew what an oil control ring does. It seems you
learned whatever you ever learned from some superstitious hammer mechanic.

gene, from the way you talk it is obvious that you just keep on replacing parts
on an engine needing repair until the beast runs.

fixing engines is easy, gene. knowing what to fix, that is the hard part.
knowing what to fix means knowing how the thing is supposed to work. you don't
have a clew, so you just keep on replacing parts.

Duh!....How profound. What about cam, lifters, rocker arms, push
rods,wrist pin, ? How do they get lubricated?

pressue oil.

timing gears,accessory case gears and accessories? How do they get
lubricated?

the bottom gear runs in the sump, so drags oil around with it

What about vacuum pump, etc.? How do they get lubricated?

never saw a vacuum pump mounted in the sump.

btw, gene, it is now obvious you don't have a clew what kind of surfaces
require pressure oil and what kinds don't. Obviously, you have no idea how an
engine actually runs.

I have never seen

gene, as is also the case with rickie, rational discussion with you is not
possible. you live in some universe known only to you. A common problem for
those operating on the back side of the power curve IQ-wise.

wait a minute, gene, YOU said they weren't 100% positive displacement. so, the
obvious question is: what % of the time are they negative displacement?

the question is nonsense, gene, because your statement is nonsense in the
context you made it. you were repeating something you heard way outside the
limits in which it was said, simply because you have no idea what it means.
you were just babbling, hoping to sound as if you belong in the universe of
people on this planet.

the pump is not 100% positive
displacement

oh, it is negative displacement what % of the time?

Pumps are only negative displacement in Jaxworld, where apparently
everything is JaxBackward.

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http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/ Homepage
http://www.southharbourvillageinn.com/directions.asp Where Southport,NC
is located.
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Pictures at My Marina
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats
at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide

Fixing engines is easy. Knowing what to fix is the hard part. For most
people.

Oh, boy.....


yeah, gene, that is a tough concept for an idiot like you to accept. But gut
it out, gene, for it is the creed of qualified mechanics everywhere. Not among
hammer mechanics to be sure, but certainly among all qualified mechanics. (you
think I made up those words? I first heard them more than 45 years ago.)

On 26 Jun 2004 01:52:03 GMT, something compelled
(JAXAshby), to say:

steve, it is near 10:00 at night

It's 1914, actually. I have two more hours of daylight left.

and you have had too much to drink. you are
incoherent.

I'm incoherent? You and Rick are in agreement, but you're so
willing to engage in . . . well, I'd like to call it debate but I
have too much respect for the art. You're so willing to argue
that you can't see that:

The same engine producing less horsepower will last longer than if it
produced max power

and:

Expensive, finely tuned Indy race car engines won't go
that many miles past 500 at WFO throttle, but will last thousands of hours
if
you don't beat the crap out of them.

say the same thing.

Maybe you should *start* drinking, glub knows it couldn't hurt
your "thought" processes.


From: "Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam"
Date: 6/25/2004 9:46 PM Eastern Standard Time
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On 26 Jun 2004 01:26:28 GMT, something compelled
(JAXAshby), to say:

The same engine producing less horsepower will last longer than if it
produced max power ... you have a certain amount of horsepower hours in
the machine, take them all out in a hurry or stretch them out, it's up
to you.

rick just gain the hammer mechanic's point of view. Like most things hammer
mechanics say, it is wrong.

"horsepower hours" (what a weird thing for rick to say) go up as the engine
is
used "more nicely". Expensive, finely tuned Indy race car engines won't go
that many miles past 500 at WFO throttle, but will last thousands of hours
if
you don't beat the crap out of them.

Apparently you can read faster than you can think, as well.

JAXAshby wrote:
gene, oil pumps (on the engines under discussion) sit in the oil sump bathed in
oil. They are ready to pump oil on rev #1.


Hey moron, you might want to check and see where the oil pumps on
Lycoming and Continental flat engines are located.

What a freakin' moron you are Jax. Care to add more proof that you have
no clue whatsoever about aircraft engines?

Bwahahahahahahahahaha Loser wannabe loses again!

Rick