rickie, fine fine fine pilot that you claim to be, have you EVER noticed that
preluber mounted on the front of those engines?

Next time you drive by an FBO (look up the term) slow down a bit -- stop if you
have to -- and LOOK.

JAXAshby wrote:

Continental. Lycoming.

Jax, as usual you are skittering along like a slimeball, all you have
done is name a couple of engine manufacturers.

Please tell us what make and model of aircraft engine requires, or even
has the facility to prelube before starting.

I won't hold my breath waiting for you to answer. You usual one-line
insult post will prove my point that you are an ignorant wannabe who has
no life outside usenet.

Rick

sorry, gene, you are only partly right. yes, that is a propeller, but no it
does not scrub the oil off. you pull the prop through many times (or crank
over with the mags turned off) to bring the oil pressure up to pressure to lube
the bearings before startup.

At least that is what pilots who care about their engines do. That is a little
beyond the conprehension of some pilots to be sure, but not the vast majority.

Jax, that pre-luber mounted on the front of the engine is called a
propeller and it will move the pistons up and down in the cylinder to
check for liquid lock. It will NOT prelube the engine, in fact, it
will scrape the oil off of the cylinder walls since there is no splash
or spray lubrication to restore what the scraper ring removes....

There are STCs to install a small electric motor and pump on the
firewall for the purpose of prelubing... it is not from either
Lycoming or Continental and it is not visible from the front of the
aircraft.

There are STCs to install a small electric motor and pump on the
firewall for the purpose of prelubing.

that is for pilots who know their engine needs prelubing but at just too lazy
to pull the prop over.

gene, give it up and go back to study hall.

On 19 Jun 2004 23:02:51 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

sorry, gene, you are only partly right. yes, that is a propeller, but no it
does not scrub the oil off.

So, what does the scraper ring scrape? Where does the replenishing
oil come from and how long does it take to get there?

you pull the prop through many times

*that*, I'd like to see....

(or crank
over with the mags turned off) to bring the oil pressure up to pressure to
lube
the bearings before startup.



While you are trying to build pressure up in the oil system, how are
all of those portions of the engine that are splash lubed getting oil?
There are Lycoming engines that receive NO oil to the cam, the gears,
valve train, or cylinders unless there is splash lubrication. While
you are concentrating on the main bearings, everything else is running
dry.

you pull the prop through many times

*that*, I'd like to see....


a little weak in the arm, are you gene? or are you just suggesting you like to
see a man's arm involved in doing something useful?

the world's expert on torque convertor marine transmissions and the engine oils
used in such:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%2...n&lr=&ie=UTF-8
&selm=6d79lt4gtn64l7elkiklme3vhdktvg75f9%404ax.com &rnum=2

so, how come you didn't know what a propeller is?


gene, give it up and go back to study hall.


Jax,

I'm a certificated aircraft mechanic and factory trained by Lycoming
and Continental. I touch these engines every day so I know pretty much
what they look like. However, I won't continue to upset you by
offering FACTS that contradict that comfortable little JaxWorld you
live in.

the world's expert on torque convertor marine transmissions and the engine
oils
used in such:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...%22JAXAshby%22

JAXAshby wrote the most incredible garbage that proves he is nothing but
an ignorant wannabe and is not worth repeating:

Where do you get this stuff, Jax? It never ceases to amaze me how
consistently stupid you are about this sort of thing. Do you really
believe what you write or are you just so lonely and perverted that any
attention at all keeps you alive?

Jaxworld is truly a bizarre place ... One can only wonder how you find
your way out at all.

Just to keep on topic, and twist the knife in your empty brain pan: I
used to fly between a couple of engines on which the start sequence
included opening an air snifter valve in order to - prevent - lube oil
from being pumped to the bearings.

Google that one and get back to us with your version. It will be
interesting, I am sure.


Rick

On Sunday 20 June 2004 2:44 pm in rec.boats.cruising Rick wrote:

Jaxworld is truly a bizarre place ... One can only wonder how you find
your way out at all.

Just plonk the troll into your killfile, he only does it to get attention.

Just to keep on topic, and twist the knife in your empty brain pan: I
used to fly between a couple of engines on which the start sequence
included opening an air snifter valve in order to - prevent - lube oil
from being pumped to the bearings.

And count 5 blades before hitting the mags.....

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