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Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] January 5th 09 09:30 PM

The worst Democrat President
 
Jimmy Carter is even a proven failure as a carpenter. Houses he built are
falling apart. Built atop dumps, etc.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5439388.ece

Democrats can't get anything right. Say goodbye to your country, folks!


Wilbur Hubbard



KLC Lewis January 5th 09 09:36 PM

The worst Democrat President
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
Jimmy Carter is even a proven failure as a carpenter. Houses he built are
falling apart. Built atop dumps, etc.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5439388.ece

Democrats can't get anything right. Say goodbye to your country, folks!


Wilbur Hubbard


The houses were built by a charity, so yes, obviously they must all be
Democrats.



Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] January 5th 09 09:42 PM

The worst Democrat President
 

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
Jimmy Carter is even a proven failure as a carpenter. Houses he built are
falling apart. Built atop dumps, etc.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5439388.ece

Democrats can't get anything right. Say goodbye to your country, folks!


Wilbur Hubbard


The houses were built by a charity, so yes, obviously they must all be
Democrats.



You didn't read the article? It specifically states that houses built by
Jimmy Carter personally - he worked on them in other words, pounding nails,
etc. - were falling apart. Duh!

As for charity it's a proven fact that Republicans are far more generous
than stingy, hypocrite Democrats.

http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/...han-democrats/


Wilbur Hubbard



KLC Lewis January 5th 09 09:52 PM

The worst Democrat President
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
Jimmy Carter is even a proven failure as a carpenter. Houses he built
are falling apart. Built atop dumps, etc.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5439388.ece

Democrats can't get anything right. Say goodbye to your country, folks!


Wilbur Hubbard


The houses were built by a charity, so yes, obviously they must all be
Democrats.



You didn't read the article? It specifically states that houses built by
Jimmy Carter personally - he worked on them in other words, pounding
nails, etc. - were falling apart. Duh!

As for charity it's a proven fact that Republicans are far more generous
than stingy, hypocrite Democrats.

http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/...han-democrats/


Wilbur Hubbard


Yes, of course I read the article -- I have to wonder if you did. over
10,000 people worked on building those homes over a 17-day period.
Personally, I would not expect sterling craftsmanship from houses slapped-up
so quickly. To blame Jimmy Carter for their failure when he was nothing but
a volunteer hammer-wielder strikes me as putting blame on the wrong party.



Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] January 5th 09 10:01 PM

The worst Democrat President
 

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
Jimmy Carter is even a proven failure as a carpenter. Houses he built
are falling apart. Built atop dumps, etc.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5439388.ece

Democrats can't get anything right. Say goodbye to your country, folks!


Wilbur Hubbard


The houses were built by a charity, so yes, obviously they must all be
Democrats.



You didn't read the article? It specifically states that houses built by
Jimmy Carter personally - he worked on them in other words, pounding
nails, etc. - were falling apart. Duh!

As for charity it's a proven fact that Republicans are far more generous
than stingy, hypocrite Democrats.

http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/...han-democrats/


Wilbur Hubbard


Yes, of course I read the article -- I have to wonder if you did. over
10,000 people worked on building those homes over a 17-day period.
Personally, I would not expect sterling craftsmanship from houses
slapped-up so quickly. To blame Jimmy Carter for their failure when he was
nothing but a volunteer hammer-wielder strikes me as putting blame on the
wrong party.


He was in charge. He wants the glory but doesn't want the blame. Typical
Democrat. I'm really quite disappointed to find out you're one of those
farked liberal Democrats. You just sounded smarter than that on Usenet.
Anybody who lives aboard should loathe the liberal Democrat agenda.

Wilbur Hubbard



KLC Lewis January 5th 09 10:46 PM

The worst Democrat President
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
Jimmy Carter is even a proven failure as a carpenter. Houses he built
are falling apart. Built atop dumps, etc.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5439388.ece

Democrats can't get anything right. Say goodbye to your country,
folks!


Wilbur Hubbard


The houses were built by a charity, so yes, obviously they must all be
Democrats.


You didn't read the article? It specifically states that houses built by
Jimmy Carter personally - he worked on them in other words, pounding
nails, etc. - were falling apart. Duh!

As for charity it's a proven fact that Republicans are far more generous
than stingy, hypocrite Democrats.

http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/...han-democrats/


Wilbur Hubbard


Yes, of course I read the article -- I have to wonder if you did. over
10,000 people worked on building those homes over a 17-day period.
Personally, I would not expect sterling craftsmanship from houses
slapped-up so quickly. To blame Jimmy Carter for their failure when he
was nothing but a volunteer hammer-wielder strikes me as putting blame on
the wrong party.


He was in charge. He wants the glory but doesn't want the blame. Typical
Democrat. I'm really quite disappointed to find out you're one of those
farked liberal Democrats. You just sounded smarter than that on Usenet.
Anybody who lives aboard should loathe the liberal Democrat agenda.

Wilbur Hubbard


Who said that he was in charge? Certainly not the article you cited. The
Northeast Florida Builders Association was a partner in this development,
and they're professional builders. Shouldn't they be held to a higher level
of responsibility than one of their volunteers who has been singled-out for
blame for the sole reason that he is famous?

And who said that I'm a Democrat? You assume too much.

Some more information on Fairway Oaks, if you're interested:
http://www.habitat.org/jcwp/2000/monfla.html



Marty[_2_] January 5th 09 11:17 PM

The worst Democrat President
 
KLC Lewis wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
Jimmy Carter is even a proven failure as a carpenter. Houses he built
are falling apart. Built atop dumps, etc.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5439388.ece

Democrats can't get anything right. Say goodbye to your country,
folks!


Wilbur Hubbard

The houses were built by a charity, so yes, obviously they must all be
Democrats.

You didn't read the article? It specifically states that houses built by
Jimmy Carter personally - he worked on them in other words, pounding
nails, etc. - were falling apart. Duh!

As for charity it's a proven fact that Republicans are far more generous
than stingy, hypocrite Democrats.

http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/...han-democrats/


Wilbur Hubbard

Yes, of course I read the article -- I have to wonder if you did. over
10,000 people worked on building those homes over a 17-day period.
Personally, I would not expect sterling craftsmanship from houses
slapped-up so quickly. To blame Jimmy Carter for their failure when he
was nothing but a volunteer hammer-wielder strikes me as putting blame on
the wrong party.

He was in charge. He wants the glory but doesn't want the blame. Typical
Democrat. I'm really quite disappointed to find out you're one of those
farked liberal Democrats. You just sounded smarter than that on Usenet.
Anybody who lives aboard should loathe the liberal Democrat agenda.

Wilbur Hubbard


Who said that he was in charge? Certainly not the article you cited. The
Northeast Florida Builders Association was a partner in this development,
and they're professional builders. Shouldn't they be held to a higher level
of responsibility than one of their volunteers who has been singled-out for
blame for the sole reason that he is famous?

And who said that I'm a Democrat? You assume too much.


One should refrain from arguing with fools and idiots; observers often
confuse you with the idiot.

Cheers
Martin

Richard Casady January 5th 09 11:49 PM

The worst Democrat President
 
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:52:42 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

Yes, of course I read the article -- I have to wonder if you did. over
10,000 people worked on building those homes over a 17-day period.
Personally, I would not expect sterling craftsmanship from houses slapped-up
so quickly. To blame Jimmy Carter for their failure when he was nothing but
a volunteer hammer-wielder strikes me as putting blame on the wrong party.


I doubt if average construction time is more than a month. Everything
is slapped together, some of it surprisingly well.

Casady

MMC January 7th 09 02:30 PM

The worst Democrat President
 

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:52:42 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

Yes, of course I read the article -- I have to wonder if you did. over
10,000 people worked on building those homes over a 17-day period.
Personally, I would not expect sterling craftsmanship from houses
slapped-up
so quickly. To blame Jimmy Carter for their failure when he was nothing
but
a volunteer hammer-wielder strikes me as putting blame on the wrong party.


I doubt if average construction time is more than a month. Everything
is slapped together, some of it surprisingly well.

Casady

I'd imagine that for someone whose options are living in thier car (lucky)
or a cardboard box (unlucky) a house that was slapped together sounds pretty
damn good.



Richard Casady January 7th 09 04:13 PM

The worst Democrat President
 
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:30:32 -0500, "mmc" wrote:

I doubt if average construction time is more than a month. Everything
is slapped together, some of it surprisingly well.

Casady

I'd imagine that for someone whose options are living in thier car (lucky)
or a cardboard box (unlucky) a house that was slapped together sounds pretty
damn good.


My point was that all houses go up very quickly. Ties up the money for
less time that way.

Casady

Bruce In Bangkok January 8th 09 12:33 AM

The worst Democrat President
 
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:13:04 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:30:32 -0500, "mmc" wrote:

I doubt if average construction time is more than a month. Everything
is slapped together, some of it surprisingly well.

Casady

I'd imagine that for someone whose options are living in thier car (lucky)
or a cardboard box (unlucky) a house that was slapped together sounds pretty
damn good.


My point was that all houses go up very quickly. Ties up the money for
less time that way.

Casady



We once tendered for a project to build low cost housing at a project
in Indonesia. The construction schedule anticipated erecting one house
per crew per week. Prefabbed of course, but still a house a week.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Larry January 11th 09 03:15 AM

The worst Democrat President
 
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

We once tendered for a project to build low cost housing at a project
in Indonesia. The construction schedule anticipated erecting one house
per crew per week. Prefabbed of course, but still a house a week.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



It sure beats having your house forcibly destroyed in front of you and your
land given to someone else:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SbjA...re=PlayList&p=
25AD7506A54AEDCB&index=1

Watch this series and tell me who the REAL war criminals are....


Marty[_2_] January 11th 09 05:00 AM

The worst Democrat President
 
Larry wrote:
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

We once tendered for a project to build low cost housing at a project
in Indonesia. The construction schedule anticipated erecting one house
per crew per week. Prefabbed of course, but still a house a week.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



It sure beats having your house forcibly destroyed in front of you and your
land given to someone else:


Larry, how would it be it Israel exercised the same rights claimed by
the US against Cuba and Egypt against Palestine in Gaza? I.E, shut down
their borders and refuse all trade. The Gaza strip gets virtually all
of its' energy, fuel, water, food, and material via the Gaza Israel border.

Why can't Israel just shut it down and say "look after yourselves", same
as the US has done with Cuba?

Cheers
Martin

Capt. JG January 11th 09 07:17 AM

The worst Democrat President
 
"Marty" wrote in message
...
Larry wrote:
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

We once tendered for a project to build low cost housing at a project
in Indonesia. The construction schedule anticipated erecting one house
per crew per week. Prefabbed of course, but still a house a week.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



It sure beats having your house forcibly destroyed in front of you and
your land given to someone else:


Larry, how would it be it Israel exercised the same rights claimed by the
US against Cuba and Egypt against Palestine in Gaza? I.E, shut down their
borders and refuse all trade. The Gaza strip gets virtually all of its'
energy, fuel, water, food, and material via the Gaza Israel border.

Why can't Israel just shut it down and say "look after yourselves", same
as the US has done with Cuba?

Cheers
Martin



Forget it Martin... Larry has already told us his opinion of Jews...

"**** you and your goddamned Zionist murderers.

**** the Zionist US government for supporting genocide.

Hitler should have killed them all."


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Bruce In Bangkok January 11th 09 02:21 PM

The worst Democrat President
 
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:17:13 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Marty" wrote in message
m...
Larry wrote:
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

We once tendered for a project to build low cost housing at a project
in Indonesia. The construction schedule anticipated erecting one house
per crew per week. Prefabbed of course, but still a house a week.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



It sure beats having your house forcibly destroyed in front of you and
your land given to someone else:


Larry, how would it be it Israel exercised the same rights claimed by the
US against Cuba and Egypt against Palestine in Gaza? I.E, shut down their
borders and refuse all trade. The Gaza strip gets virtually all of its'
energy, fuel, water, food, and material via the Gaza Israel border.

Why can't Israel just shut it down and say "look after yourselves", same
as the US has done with Cuba?

Cheers
Martin



Forget it Martin... Larry has already told us his opinion of Jews...

"**** you and your goddamned Zionist murderers.

**** the Zionist US government for supporting genocide.

Hitler should have killed them all."


Just wondering? Do you condone Hamas firing rockets into Israel? While
condemning the Israelis for attacking Hamas?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

KLC Lewis January 11th 09 04:44 PM

The worst Democrat President
 

"katy" wrote in message
om...
I don't think that would work. No one but the Russians were very
interested in Cuba and their proximity and own financial woes kept them
from making any significant gains with Cuba. I think if Israel did that,
Syria and Iran would immediately take up the slack and start providing
them with goods and making sure they were a presence there which would
just ignite things further.Alienation only works if everyine pllays the
game.


Not to mention that the entire world ignores the American embargo of Cuba.



katy January 11th 09 04:44 PM

The worst Democrat President
 
Marty wrote:
Larry wrote:
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

We once tendered for a project to build low cost housing at a project
in Indonesia. The construction schedule anticipated erecting one house
per crew per week. Prefabbed of course, but still a house a week.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



It sure beats having your house forcibly destroyed in front of you and
your land given to someone else:


Larry, how would it be it Israel exercised the same rights claimed by
the US against Cuba and Egypt against Palestine in Gaza? I.E, shut down
their borders and refuse all trade. The Gaza strip gets virtually all
of its' energy, fuel, water, food, and material via the Gaza Israel border.

Why can't Israel just shut it down and say "look after yourselves", same
as the US has done with Cuba?

Cheers
Martin


I don't think that would work. No one but the Russians were very
interested in Cuba and their proximity and own financial woes kept them
from making any significant gains with Cuba. I think if Israel did that,
Syria and Iran would immediately take up the slack and start providing
them with goods and making sure they were a presence there which would
just ignite things further.Alienation only works if everyine pllays the
game.

katy January 11th 09 04:48 PM

The worst Democrat President
 
Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


Just wondering? Do you condone Hamas firing rockets into Israel? While
condemning the Israelis for attacking Hamas?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I think Israel has every right to retaliate agasinst an attack from
Hamas but I think she always goes way overboard and escalates things. If
she just took care of the business at hand and then ledt it there
wouldn;t be so mnay problems. And I wish we would stay out of their
internal affairs. If Iran or Syria decied to go after Israel, then that
would be another thing but messing about with Israel's border wars is
none of our business.

katy January 11th 09 05:05 PM

The worst Democrat President
 
KLC Lewis wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
om...
I don't think that would work. No one but the Russians were very
interested in Cuba and their proximity and own financial woes kept them
from making any significant gains with Cuba. I think if Israel did that,
Syria and Iran would immediately take up the slack and start providing
them with goods and making sure they were a presence there which would
just ignite things further.Alienation only works if everyine pllays the
game.


Not to mention that the entire world ignores the American embargo of Cuba.


ThT'A WHAT i MEANT...FOR EMBARGOS TO WORK, EVEYONE HAS TI PLAY....

Capt. JG January 11th 09 05:44 PM

The worst Democrat President
 
"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:17:13 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Marty" wrote in message
om...
Larry wrote:
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

We once tendered for a project to build low cost housing at a project
in Indonesia. The construction schedule anticipated erecting one house
per crew per week. Prefabbed of course, but still a house a week.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



It sure beats having your house forcibly destroyed in front of you and
your land given to someone else:

Larry, how would it be it Israel exercised the same rights claimed by
the
US against Cuba and Egypt against Palestine in Gaza? I.E, shut down
their
borders and refuse all trade. The Gaza strip gets virtually all of its'
energy, fuel, water, food, and material via the Gaza Israel border.

Why can't Israel just shut it down and say "look after yourselves", same
as the US has done with Cuba?

Cheers
Martin



Forget it Martin... Larry has already told us his opinion of Jews...

"**** you and your goddamned Zionist murderers.

**** the Zionist US government for supporting genocide.

Hitler should have killed them all."


Just wondering? Do you condone Hamas firing rockets into Israel? While
condemning the Israelis for attacking Hamas?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



I don't condone the firing of missles, nor do I condone the killing of any
innocents on either side of a conflict. I have no problem with Israel trying
to stop the missles, however. If Hamas stops firing the missles, that will
give Israel no excuse to continue to move into Gaza.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] January 11th 09 06:00 PM

The worst Democrat President
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
ons...
"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:17:13 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Marty" wrote in message
news:gdCdnbFQ764D4PTUnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@giganews. com...
Larry wrote:
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

We once tendered for a project to build low cost housing at a project
in Indonesia. The construction schedule anticipated erecting one
house
per crew per week. Prefabbed of course, but still a house a week.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



It sure beats having your house forcibly destroyed in front of you and
your land given to someone else:

Larry, how would it be it Israel exercised the same rights claimed by
the
US against Cuba and Egypt against Palestine in Gaza? I.E, shut down
their
borders and refuse all trade. The Gaza strip gets virtually all of
its'
energy, fuel, water, food, and material via the Gaza Israel border.

Why can't Israel just shut it down and say "look after yourselves",
same
as the US has done with Cuba?

Cheers
Martin


Forget it Martin... Larry has already told us his opinion of Jews...

"**** you and your goddamned Zionist murderers.

**** the Zionist US government for supporting genocide.

Hitler should have killed them all."


Just wondering? Do you condone Hamas firing rockets into Israel? While
condemning the Israelis for attacking Hamas?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



I don't condone the firing of missles, nor do I condone the killing of any
innocents on either side of a conflict. I have no problem with Israel
trying to stop the missles, however. If Hamas stops firing the missles,
that will give Israel no excuse to continue to move into Gaza.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



What an idiot! Using your pacifist logic I guess if a rapist continued to
rape your mother you would go after him. But if he stopped raping your
mother you would just let him be and hope he wouldn't start raping her
again?

No wonder our great country is fast going down the toilet. 53% of the voters
are every bit this mindless as they voted for Obama who is a total
socialist, know nothing fraud.

Wilbur Hubbard



Larry January 11th 09 07:44 PM

The worst Democrat President
 
Marty wrote in
:

Larry, how would it be it Israel exercised the same rights claimed by
the US against Cuba and Egypt against Palestine in Gaza? I.E, shut
down their borders and refuse all trade. The Gaza strip gets
virtually all of its' energy, fuel, water, food, and material via the
Gaza Israel border.

Why can't Israel just shut it down and say "look after yourselves",
same as the US has done with Cuba?

Cheers
Martin



Er, ah, Martin? Where you been, boy? Israel shut down the border
crossings to starve out the Palestinians in the Gaza Concentration Camp
18 months ago! That's why Hamas started firing missiles at them trying
to get them to open the borders again....

I'd also like to note to you that no American Kibbutzes have been built
on only the best, most productive land in Cuba. We have not
misappropriated a single Cuban farm, used bulldozers to level a single
Cuban's ancestrial homeland and built huge condos on it that can ONLY be
given to Southern Baptists from Arkansas....no Catholics, no Jews, no
Muslims, no other religions.

In the South, where I live, separating living facilities between BLACK
and WHITE Americans was forcibly placed upon the population of WHITES.
What needs to be done, now, is for the world to FORCIBLY eliminate
APARTHEID upon the JEWS and the State of Israel.....QUOTAS, FORCED
BUSING, YOUR KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL WITH PALESTINIAN KIDS, ALL SHOPS AND
STORES AND LUNCHCOUNTERS AND RESTAURANTS MUST ALLOW PALESTINIANS TO SIT
RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE JEWS AND LAUGH IT UP BOISTEROUSLY NO MATTER
WHAT THE JEWS AROUND THEM LIKE.....just like blacks do all over the
South.

NO publically funded one-religion schools or any facilities of any kind.

We were taught by the AIPAC politicians in America that Apartheid is
WRONG. Dutch South Africans were forced off their ancestrial farms,
their property and wealth forcibly extracted from them because APARTHEID
IS WRONG. Israel needs to be FORCIBLY INTEGRATED BECAUSE APARTHEID IS
WRONG! America's and Europe's Jewish Ghettos need to be FORCIBLY
INTEGRATED WITH GOYUM BECAUSE APARTHEID IS WRONG!

What's good for the goose, is good for the JEW.


Larry January 11th 09 07:54 PM

The worst Democrat President
 
katy wrote in news:496a0f87$0$9555
:

I think Israel has every right to retaliate agasinst an attack from
Hamas but I think she always goes way overboard and escalates things.

If
she just took care of the business at hand and then ledt it there
wouldn;t be so mnay problems. And I wish we would stay out of their
internal affairs. If Iran or Syria decied to go after Israel, then

that
would be another thing but messing about with Israel's border wars is
none of our business.



You boys been watching too much Zion TV, the American Zionist Networks.

Take the time out to view OCCUPATION 101. It's a great video library of
Zionist atrocities against the people of Palestine. You can't be that
stupid or brainwashed you can't view reality.

ISRAEL locked down GAZA trying to starve out the Gaza Concentration
Camp....FIRST. The ISRAELI NAVY will sink any ship trying to trade with
the Gazans. It's a TOTAL BLOCKADE of GAZA the Jew TV in the USA doesn't
report.

THEN, the Gaza Concentration Camp RETALIATED with what little they could
smuggle in and fire on the Israelis.

The whole meaning of WHY the Gazans are firing everything they can at
the SIEGE ARMY changes when you leave out the FIRST reality in this
conflict. The victims are NOT THE POWERFUL ISRAELIS! Gazans are
STARVING, out of water, out of basic fuels, freezing.

What would Nebraska do if its neighboring states decided to shut down
all trade with Nebraska, shoot down any airplanes headed into Nebraska,
destroy Nebraskas airports so no planes could land, shut off all the
gas, oil, natural gas, electricity, food and all other commodities going
into Nebraska.

Would Nebraskans retaliate with every weapon they could lay their hands
on?

You're goddamned right they would! Why are Gazans any different from
Nebraskans?? Gazans have no army, no weapons, no way to protect
themselves from the CLUSTER BOMBS ANY FOOL CAN SEE IS BEING DROPPED ON
THEM EVERY DAY BY ISRAEL.

Damn this place is infiltrated.....




Larry January 11th 09 07:56 PM

The worst Democrat President
 
"Capt. JG" wrote in news:eP-
reasolutions:

If Hamas stops firing the missles, that will
give Israel no excuse to continue to move into Gaza.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



You stupid ass! It's not about Israel, the victim! GAZA IS UNDER ISRAELI
SIEGE AND HAS BEEN FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS!


Larry January 11th 09 08:00 PM

The worst Democrat President
 
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

Not to mention that the entire world ignores the American embargo of
Cuba.




NAME ONE SHIP that is cruising around Cuba in a line of ships to prevent
any body else's ships, airplanes, boats, warships, air force from LANDING
IN CUBA.

CUBA ISN'T UNDER AMERICAN EMBARGO AND SIEGE! Only AMERICANS cannot do
business with Cuba.

GAZA is under TOTAL SIEGE!.....NOONE can get in....NO GAZANS CAN GET OUT!

Cubans can come and go any ol' time they like. Canadians go to Cuba for
VACATION, stupid! Canada trades with Cuba just like everyone else but the
USA! There are no Naval blockades of Cuba. There ARE complete naval
blockades of GAZA!


Capt. JG January 11th 09 08:08 PM

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"Larry" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in news:eP-
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If Hamas stops firing the missles, that will
give Israel no excuse to continue to move into Gaza.

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You stupid ass! It's not about Israel, the victim! GAZA IS UNDER ISRAELI
SIEGE AND HAS BEEN FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS!



Why don't you tell us again about Hitler not finishing the job....

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Capt. JG January 11th 09 08:09 PM

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
Marty wrote in
:

Larry, how would it be it Israel exercised the same rights claimed by
the US against Cuba and Egypt against Palestine in Gaza? I.E, shut
down their borders and refuse all trade. The Gaza strip gets
virtually all of its' energy, fuel, water, food, and material via the
Gaza Israel border.

Why can't Israel just shut it down and say "look after yourselves",
same as the US has done with Cuba?

Cheers
Martin



Er, ah, Martin? Where you been, boy? Israel shut down the border
crossings to starve out the Palestinians in the Gaza Concentration Camp
18 months ago! That's why Hamas started firing missiles at them trying
to get them to open the borders again....

I'd also like to note to you that no American Kibbutzes have been built
on only the best, most productive land in Cuba. We have not
misappropriated a single Cuban farm, used bulldozers to level a single
Cuban's ancestrial homeland and built huge condos on it that can ONLY be
given to Southern Baptists from Arkansas....no Catholics, no Jews, no
Muslims, no other religions.

In the South, where I live, separating living facilities between BLACK
and WHITE Americans was forcibly placed upon the population of WHITES.
What needs to be done, now, is for the world to FORCIBLY eliminate
APARTHEID upon the JEWS and the State of Israel.....QUOTAS, FORCED
BUSING, YOUR KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL WITH PALESTINIAN KIDS, ALL SHOPS AND
STORES AND LUNCHCOUNTERS AND RESTAURANTS MUST ALLOW PALESTINIANS TO SIT
RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE JEWS AND LAUGH IT UP BOISTEROUSLY NO MATTER
WHAT THE JEWS AROUND THEM LIKE.....just like blacks do all over the
South.

NO publically funded one-religion schools or any facilities of any kind.

We were taught by the AIPAC politicians in America that Apartheid is
WRONG. Dutch South Africans were forced off their ancestrial farms,
their property and wealth forcibly extracted from them because APARTHEID
IS WRONG. Israel needs to be FORCIBLY INTEGRATED BECAUSE APARTHEID IS
WRONG! America's and Europe's Jewish Ghettos need to be FORCIBLY
INTEGRATED WITH GOYUM BECAUSE APARTHEID IS WRONG!

What's good for the goose, is good for the JEW.



Take your nazi crap somewhere else...


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[email protected] January 11th 09 11:01 PM

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On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:44:41 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:17:13 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Marty" wrote in message
news:gdCdnbFQ764D4PTUnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@giganews. com...
Larry wrote:
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

We once tendered for a project to build low cost housing at a project
in Indonesia. The construction schedule anticipated erecting one house
per crew per week. Prefabbed of course, but still a house a week.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



It sure beats having your house forcibly destroyed in front of you and
your land given to someone else:

Larry, how would it be it Israel exercised the same rights claimed by
the
US against Cuba and Egypt against Palestine in Gaza? I.E, shut down
their
borders and refuse all trade. The Gaza strip gets virtually all of its'
energy, fuel, water, food, and material via the Gaza Israel border.

Why can't Israel just shut it down and say "look after yourselves", same
as the US has done with Cuba?

Cheers
Martin


Forget it Martin... Larry has already told us his opinion of Jews...

"**** you and your goddamned Zionist murderers.

**** the Zionist US government for supporting genocide.

Hitler should have killed them all."


Just wondering? Do you condone Hamas firing rockets into Israel? While
condemning the Israelis for attacking Hamas?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



I don't condone the firing of missles, nor do I condone the killing of any
innocents on either side of a conflict. I have no problem with Israel trying
to stop the missles, however. If Hamas stops firing the missles, that will
give Israel no excuse to continue to move into Gaza.


The problem, historically is that any time there is a cease fire for
any length of time, all it does is give the Palestinians an
opportunity to re-group and strengthen. Once they do that, it all
starts over again. That Israel is even occasionally stopping for a few
hours to let food and supplies into Gaza is a testament to thier
patience.


KLC Lewis January 12th 09 12:35 AM

The worst Democrat President
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

Not to mention that the entire world ignores the American embargo of
Cuba.




NAME ONE SHIP that is cruising around Cuba in a line of ships to prevent
any body else's ships, airplanes, boats, warships, air force from LANDING
IN CUBA.

CUBA ISN'T UNDER AMERICAN EMBARGO AND SIEGE! Only AMERICANS cannot do
business with Cuba.

GAZA is under TOTAL SIEGE!.....NOONE can get in....NO GAZANS CAN GET OUT!

Cubans can come and go any ol' time they like. Canadians go to Cuba for
VACATION, stupid! Canada trades with Cuba just like everyone else but the
USA! There are no Naval blockades of Cuba. There ARE complete naval
blockades of GAZA!


Embargo and blockade are not synonomous, Larry. Reread what I wrote. And I
will thank you to keep a civil tongue in your head.

I am completely aware of the crimes being committed against Palestinians in
the Gaza Strip. I am not your enemy, though I find some of your comments
about Israel utterly reprehensible.



Bruce In Bangkok January 12th 09 12:48 AM

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On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:00:22 +0000, Larry wrote:

"KLC Lewis" wrote in
news:waOdnWNWHtX2v_fUnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@centurytel. net:

Not to mention that the entire world ignores the American embargo of
Cuba.




NAME ONE SHIP that is cruising around Cuba in a line of ships to prevent
any body else's ships, airplanes, boats, warships, air force from LANDING
IN CUBA.

CUBA ISN'T UNDER AMERICAN EMBARGO AND SIEGE! Only AMERICANS cannot do
business with Cuba.

GAZA is under TOTAL SIEGE!.....NOONE can get in....NO GAZANS CAN GET OUT!

Cubans can come and go any ol' time they like. Canadians go to Cuba for
VACATION, stupid! Canada trades with Cuba just like everyone else but the
USA! There are no Naval blockades of Cuba. There ARE complete naval
blockades of GAZA!



Ah Larry, but there WAS a total embargo of Cuba - I distinctly
remember it. The B-52 loaded with nukes and sitting at the end of the
runway ready to go, the KC-135's right behind them. Us ramp rats
working non-stop to get them ready, the flight crews sitting all day
in the cockpits.....

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok January 12th 09 12:55 AM

The worst Democrat President
 
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:48:55 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


Just wondering? Do you condone Hamas firing rockets into Israel? While
condemning the Israelis for attacking Hamas?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I think Israel has every right to retaliate agasinst an attack from
Hamas but I think she always goes way overboard and escalates things. If
she just took care of the business at hand and then ledt it there
wouldn;t be so mnay problems. And I wish we would stay out of their
internal affairs. If Iran or Syria decied to go after Israel, then that
would be another thing but messing about with Israel's border wars is
none of our business.


If someone blew your family to tiny, bloody, bits, do you think it is
possible that you might "go a little overboard"?
I find that it is rather hard to act impartially when you are the
injured party and while I don't necessarily condone Israel's reaction
I can damn well understand why they react that way.

Regarding the U.S.'s support of Israel, you are seeing Democracy in
action.... any group that controls a significant number of votes gets
noticed.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok January 12th 09 12:58 AM

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On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:54:56 +0000, Larry wrote:

katy wrote in news:496a0f87$0$9555
:

I think Israel has every right to retaliate agasinst an attack from
Hamas but I think she always goes way overboard and escalates things.

If
she just took care of the business at hand and then ledt it there
wouldn;t be so mnay problems. And I wish we would stay out of their
internal affairs. If Iran or Syria decied to go after Israel, then

that
would be another thing but messing about with Israel's border wars is
none of our business.



You boys been watching too much Zion TV, the American Zionist Networks.

Take the time out to view OCCUPATION 101. It's a great video library of
Zionist atrocities against the people of Palestine. You can't be that
stupid or brainwashed you can't view reality.

ISRAEL locked down GAZA trying to starve out the Gaza Concentration
Camp....FIRST. The ISRAELI NAVY will sink any ship trying to trade with
the Gazans. It's a TOTAL BLOCKADE of GAZA the Jew TV in the USA doesn't
report.

THEN, the Gaza Concentration Camp RETALIATED with what little they could
smuggle in and fire on the Israelis.

The whole meaning of WHY the Gazans are firing everything they can at
the SIEGE ARMY changes when you leave out the FIRST reality in this
conflict. The victims are NOT THE POWERFUL ISRAELIS! Gazans are
STARVING, out of water, out of basic fuels, freezing.

What would Nebraska do if its neighboring states decided to shut down
all trade with Nebraska, shoot down any airplanes headed into Nebraska,
destroy Nebraskas airports so no planes could land, shut off all the
gas, oil, natural gas, electricity, food and all other commodities going
into Nebraska.

Would Nebraskans retaliate with every weapon they could lay their hands
on?

You're goddamned right they would! Why are Gazans any different from
Nebraskans?? Gazans have no army, no weapons, no way to protect
themselves from the CLUSTER BOMBS ANY FOOL CAN SEE IS BEING DROPPED ON
THEM EVERY DAY BY ISRAEL.

Damn this place is infiltrated.....


Larry, you didn't start early enough. Try going back to the date that
the British left Israel and you will have a bit less "proof" that the
Israelis started it. The Arabs did start the war....and of course the
Israelis did retaliate and this did, probably, set the stage for all
future Israeli - Arab relations.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Larry January 12th 09 12:59 AM

The worst Democrat President
 
"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

Take your nazi crap somewhere else...


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http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...5092FJ20090111

Look what the Zionists wanted Bush to do.....

World War III


Larry January 12th 09 01:01 AM

The worst Democrat President
 
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

I am not your enemy, though I find some of your comments
about Israel utterly reprehensible.



At some point, making any comment will be illegal.


Larry January 12th 09 01:02 AM

The worst Democrat President
 
wrote in :

The problem, historically is that any time there is a cease fire for
any length of time, all it does is give the Palestinians an
opportunity to re-group and strengthen. Once they do that, it all
starts over again. That Israel is even occasionally stopping for a few
hours to let food and supplies into Gaza is a testament to thier
patience.



The cease fire NEVER stops the bulldozing and forced evictions and illegal
expansions of the Isreali settlers onto Palestinians' land, though, does
it.

There will be no peace until Israeli ethnic cleansing stops....


Larry January 12th 09 01:06 AM

The worst Democrat President
 
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

Regarding the U.S.'s support of Israel, you are seeing Democracy in
action.... any group that controls a significant number of votes gets
noticed.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



They don't need us voting for anyone any more. Both candidates work for
AIPAC, as do all the congressmen and senators. If you watch the video,
you'll hear a 22-year veteran congressman make the statement that noone
DARES to even discuss anything against what Israel wants. To do so is
political suicide. That's NOT democracy. Israel is a foreign power, the
7th most powerful force on the planet. It is NOT a tiny little country
trying to protect itself. It's a NUCLEAR power with a huge OFFENSIVE
military. What does a tiny country need with 963 F-16 fighter planes?

It doesn't, unless it is going to INVADE someone.


Bruce In Bangkok January 12th 09 01:07 AM

The worst Democrat President
 
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:44:41 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:17:13 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Marty" wrote in message
news:gdCdnbFQ764D4PTUnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@giganews. com...
Larry wrote:
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

We once tendered for a project to build low cost housing at a project
in Indonesia. The construction schedule anticipated erecting one house
per crew per week. Prefabbed of course, but still a house a week.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



It sure beats having your house forcibly destroyed in front of you and
your land given to someone else:

Larry, how would it be it Israel exercised the same rights claimed by
the
US against Cuba and Egypt against Palestine in Gaza? I.E, shut down
their
borders and refuse all trade. The Gaza strip gets virtually all of its'
energy, fuel, water, food, and material via the Gaza Israel border.

Why can't Israel just shut it down and say "look after yourselves", same
as the US has done with Cuba?

Cheers
Martin


Forget it Martin... Larry has already told us his opinion of Jews...

"**** you and your goddamned Zionist murderers.

**** the Zionist US government for supporting genocide.

Hitler should have killed them all."


Just wondering? Do you condone Hamas firing rockets into Israel? While
condemning the Israelis for attacking Hamas?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



I don't condone the firing of missles, nor do I condone the killing of any
innocents on either side of a conflict. I have no problem with Israel trying
to stop the missles, however. If Hamas stops firing the missles, that will
give Israel no excuse to continue to move into Gaza.



The question remains "who are the innocents". The people who don't
necessarily fire the missiles but do cook the food that feeds the
shooters? The people who teach the young to hate; The ones who build
the rockets?

Historically the ability to wage war was a strategic consideration and
destroying this ability was considered a valid military objective. I
can assure you that had the B-52's launched the majority of Russians
who would have died would have been "innocents" if for no other reason
then there are always more of them then there are "soldiers".
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Capt. JG January 12th 09 01:24 AM

The worst Democrat President
 
"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

Take your nazi crap somewhere else...


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http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...5092FJ20090111

Look what the Zionists wanted Bush to do.....

World War III



So? Do you think the maniacs in power in Iran have world peace in mind?

Look what Hitler did in WWII...

http://isurvived.org/Holocaust-definition.html


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KLC Lewis January 12th 09 01:43 AM

The worst Democrat President
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

I am not your enemy, though I find some of your comments
about Israel utterly reprehensible.



At some point, making any comment will be illegal.


That was far closer to happening in the last eight years than it is likely
to be in the next four.



Marty[_2_] January 12th 09 02:26 AM

The worst Democrat President
 
Larry wrote: It's a NUCLEAR power with a huge OFFENSIVE
military. What does a tiny country need with 963 F-16 fighter planes?



Hmmm, could have something to do with being surrounded by 80 million
fascists with a **** load of money and Russian, French, British,
Chinese, and US arms all dedicated to the total destruction of Israel.

Cheers
Martin


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