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Larry wrote:
wrote in :

The problem, historically is that any time there is a cease fire for
any length of time, all it does is give the Palestinians an
opportunity to re-group and strengthen. Once they do that, it all
starts over again. That Israel is even occasionally stopping for a few
hours to let food and supplies into Gaza is a testament to thier
patience.



The cease fire NEVER stops the bulldozing and forced evictions and illegal
expansions of the Isreali settlers onto Palestinians' land, though, does

What happened in Gaza and large pieces of the West Bank in 2005?

Cheers
Martin

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Larry wrote:
katy wrote in news:496a0f87$0$9555
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I think Israel has every right to retaliate agasinst an attack from
Hamas but I think she always goes way overboard and escalates things.
If
she just took care of the business at hand and then ledt it there
wouldn;t be so mnay problems. And I wish we would stay out of their
internal affairs. If Iran or Syria decied to go after Israel, then
that
would be another thing but messing about with Israel's border wars is
none of our business.



You boys been watching too much Zion TV, the American Zionist Networks.

Take the time out to view OCCUPATION 101. It's a great video library of
Zionist atrocities against the people of Palestine. You can't be that
stupid or brainwashed you can't view reality.


If it's on Youtube, it has to be true! Just as true as on TV.
G

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On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:06:31 +0000, Larry wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
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Regarding the U.S.'s support of Israel, you are seeing Democracy in
action.... any group that controls a significant number of votes gets
noticed.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



They don't need us voting for anyone any more. Both candidates work for
AIPAC, as do all the congressmen and senators. If you watch the video,
you'll hear a 22-year veteran congressman make the statement that noone
DARES to even discuss anything against what Israel wants. To do so is
political suicide. That's NOT democracy. Israel is a foreign power, the
7th most powerful force on the planet. It is NOT a tiny little country
trying to protect itself. It's a NUCLEAR power with a huge OFFENSIVE
military. What does a tiny country need with 963 F-16 fighter planes?

It doesn't, unless it is going to INVADE someone.


Exactly what I said -- if the Jewish block didn't control a
significant number of votes do you really think that anyone would
listen to them?

You do remember that the major thrust of the "black rights" campaign
was to register voters, don't you?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

I am not your enemy, though I find some of your comments
about Israel utterly reprehensible.



At some point, making any comment will be illegal.


That was far closer to happening in the last eight years than it is likely
to be in the next four.



Exactly.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in
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So? Do you think the maniacs in power in Iran have world peace in
mind?



The maniacs in power in Iran are in a very poor position to attack
anyone. Take Google Earth to their air bases and have a look around. I
worked at Doshen-Tappeh IAFB in the NE quarter of Tehran under the Shah
in 1978-79. The biggest base in Tehran is virtually deserted...How can
I tell? NO CARS, NO TRUCKS, NO PLANES except the ones on static
display. There's no PEOPLE working on the base I worked at where you
could hardly find a parking space under the Shahanshah. Where are they?
Where are the planes? The can't fit in the hangars as there aren't any,
bunkers, either.

Boot Google Earth and tell it to find Bandar-e Khoumeyni, Iran, at the
headwaters of the Arabian Gulf. This is Iran's largest port. It's on a
large island directly upriver from the largest waterway at the head of
the Arabian Gulf. It has huge docks, tank farms, heavy industry, all
the things a heavy military machine needs. Zoom in close, Google has
high definition photos of it. What's missing? EVERYTHING. NO SHIPS,
NO TRUCKS on its roads or in its abandoned parking lots, NO SMOKE from
its chimneys, EVERYTHING on the island just reeks of ABANDONED. Outside
of a few rusting, abandoned hulks, rusting at the docks, there's
NOTHING! No huge freight car lines on the rusting tracks. Tracks that
are used are POLISHED, not rust colored. Follow the main road up the
East side of the neck off the island. You'll come to a huge factory
with a bright blue roof. Look over the whole complex. There are no
trucks, no people, no smoke from its stacks, it's ABANDONED. When I
lived there I flew in an Iranian C-130 ELINT aircraft over this place.
It was teeming with life under the Shah, tens of thousands worked here,
it stunk with industry you could see for miles downwind. Now it's DEAD.

Now, to the NE across the bay is another tankfarm/terminal. Zoom in on
it. There are two rusting hulks, one of them red at the otherwise
abandoned docks. Look closely at the tank farm...tanks are empty, their
roofs telescoped inside them. No cars/people/trucks/human
activity...abandoned.

Up a little canal behind this tank farm are two "marinas", or what pass
for marinas in Iran, I suppose. Zoom in close. Most boats lay on their
sides, ABANDONED, in the mud, Some look tied out. No cars, people,
abandoned. There's a little marina by the road to the left of the
canal. All the boats, some that look quite large, lay in the MUD,
ABANDONED. The Iranians abandoned all their finest sailboats to
convince Google Earth watchers that they are dirt poor and to hide these
"boat bombs" destined to attack Israel at a moments notice. Notice
nothing has come or gone since the MUD filled in the place. There's no
tracks where someone dragged a boat over the mud in shallow water. No
cars, no trucks, no people, Abandoned.

Let's go up into the town, Bandar-e Mahshahr. Half of it is in the high
res pictures. Zoom in real close and look for yourself. The
southernmost part of the town looks to be upper-middle-class homes, many
with swimming pools, parks, high rise apartment buildings, probably from
my experience built by the German engineers. Zoom way in so you can
look into the yards inside their nice walled gardens. What do you see?
See any cars?...no. See any people...no. Why are all the gardens BROWN
and DEAD? These are upper middle class people with walled gardens.
When I lived in Iran, those gardens were hand tended and lawns looked
like the putting greens at Augusta National at the beginning of the
Masters Tournament...lush...GREEN...WATERED. Look at the swimming
pools...EMPTY. There's not 10 cars in the WHOLE PLACE! Every Iranian I
ever met, even the poor ones had multiple cars. They LOVE cars. Gas
was so cheap, 3-5US cents/us gallon they drove around just for sport!
Look at these streets...ABANDONED, EMPTY. I found ONE blue bus on the
street that looks like it's in motion. ONE in a CITY?! Major traffic
circles on 4-land highways have 10-15 cars around them. This is a big
place! Where did everyone go?! Right up by the line between high res
and low rez Google photos, you'll find a big square with a street packed
with cars This would be the central market. There's a big bus terminal
with 2 blue busses. ALL the streets would be packed like this all over
an Iranian city of this size....not one or two. Run out on the East
side of town where the industry WAS. Zoom in close...ABANDONED. No
trucks parked all over and milling around, no cars, DEAD. Maybe they
all took the day off and moved up into the out-of-focus area where we
couldn't see them.....NOT.

Iranians are bordering on economic disaster. Cities all over the
country have this same Abandoned, shut-down look to them. Case in
point....

Go back down to the Gulf and follow the Shat-al-Arab waterway up along
the Iran-Iraq border and you come to Iran's boomtowns of Abadan and
Khorramshahr. This is Iran's Houston. Zoom in close to the massive
tank farm near the waterway on the South side of Abadan. See the
circles where the tanks WERE before the Iran-Iraq war? Why have they
not been rebuilt by this massive Iranian Military machine? Where are
all the tankers and other ships at the docks? There used to be many
more tank farms to the NW of there....gone.

See the airport between the cities? Boy that runway was a welcome site
when I landed there! The outboard starboard engine on our IAF C-130 had
a FIRE the extinguishers got out. The engine came apart inside
somehow....not good. We landed here and they flew down another plane
from Tehran, so we all got a great 3 day vacation in these two cities
during the BOOM TIMES. See any airplanes now? See the parking spaces
where the airplanes USED to park? See anyone at the airport? ABANDONED
comes to mind.... I see 3 cars in the parking lot of the main
terminal....THREE! It's been a while since anyone flew out of here.

Go towards Kharman from Khorramshahr. Half way between the Google names
is a massive port facility with deep water docks, massive warehouses,
storage yards for goods. Zoom in close. All the ships at the docks are
the rusting hulks blown up by the Iraqis during the war a LONG TIME AGO.
There are no cargo ships unloading tons and tons of stuff for Iran. The
warehouses have doors with no trailers at them because they must be
empty. There are thousands of trailers, however, parked all over the
place...but NO TRUCKS TO TOW THEM as there is nothing to tow. Why
didn't they rebuild their major ports on the Gulf? This place was
teeming with life in 1978 when I was there. Now....Abandoned.

There's a big Air Base at Tabareh at 30-50-50N by 49-32-20E. Let's go
see how much of a threat Iran is...militarily. This base guards the
waterway and a lot of Southern Iran from Iraqi attack. It guards the
Southern Flank! Zoom in close. Iran moved the entire air base out of
this location just so Map Data/Europa could take pictures that look like
it's completely ABANDONED. See the white plane on the tarmac. Zoom in
close. It HAS NO LEFT WING! Iran has not done a damned thing since the
Iraqis blew up this plane in the war WAY BACK WHEN? My Zionist TV in
America is telling me Iran is a "MAJOR THREAT TO THE REGION" with
"MASSIVE MILITARY MIGHT". If that's true why is this major military air
force base ABANDONED??

The major cities of the North, like Tehran and Tabriz and Mashad still
have a lot of cars in the streets. But, if you look at their INDUSTRY,
you get a horrible picture of closed factories, abandoned buildings,
etc. I'm looking, now, at the Mashad airport, which also is the air
base. Been there....in a C-130 with all the parts pulling together,
amazingly enough. Mashad is a fascinating old city full of friendly
people who don't get to see many Americans, even when I was there in
'78-'79. Man, hang onto your wallet in the central market! The
hagglars there make all the Tehran hagglars look like AMATEURS! I lost
a bundle and took home a pile, much to the amusement of the Iranian crew
flying the plane. The military post is in the north corner of the
airport. There ARE jets on the tarmac, finally! But, alas, look real
close...MANY of them have PARTS MISSING and look canibalized. There's
about 6 that look like they can fly, the grey painted ones. This is a
base? Where are the VEHICLES? WHERE ARE THE CARS? WHERE ARE THE
PEOPLE? It must be Friday and they're all at Mosque....yeah, that's it.

Dangerous people, these Iranians and their ABANDONED air bases. I
wonder how long it would take them to scramble 10 jets to ward off the
American Zionist invasion? The taxpayers should, too. The people in
the most danger are the ones off the end of the runways! Those planes
look SICK!

Like Iraq, Iran is absolutely NO THREAT to AMERICA on the other side of
the planet. If you find the massive military might on Google Earth
anywhere in the bankrupt country, post the lat/long and name of nearest
town so we all can see it. I'd love to know where all the AF and army
people I worked with are. They're certainly NOT anywhere near the base
IN THEIR CARS.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in
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Look what Hitler did in WWII...

http://isurvived.org/Holocaust-definition.html




Hitler's dead. So isn't Iran, mostly....very poor.

Why is it we ALWAYS hear about "The Holocaust" about Jews but never
about these:

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat2.htm
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat3.htm
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat4.htm
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat5.htm
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat6.htm
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat7.htm
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat8.htm

# Not The Enemy Media

* Killed through U.S. foreign policy since WWII: 10,774,706 to
16,856,361 (1945-May 2003)

# Rudolph J. Rummel, Death By Government

* "Democides" - Government inflicted deaths (1900-87)
o 169,198,000
o Including:
+ Communist Oppression: 110,286,000
+ Democratic democides: 2,028,000
* Not included among democides:
o Wars: 34,021,000
o Non-Democidal Famine (often including famines associated
with war and communist mismanagement):
+ China (1900-87): 49,275,000
+ Russia: (1921-47): 5,833,000
* Total:
o 258,327,000 for all the categories listed here."

Six millions Jews amounts to nothing compared to THIS.

What's most scary is the number of deaths in these pages that can be
DIRECTLY attributed to a difference of RELIGION. Religion is the
biggest weapon of mass destruction on the planet....yet not a single one
of its masters every goes on trial for these atrocities that have gone
on for thousands of years. Why?

Just further proof there IS NO GOD.....or he/she/it would STOP IT.

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"KLC Lewis" wrote in
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"Larry" wrote in message
...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

I am not your enemy, though I find some of your comments
about Israel utterly reprehensible.



At some point, making any comment will be illegal.


That was far closer to happening in the last eight years than it is
likely to be in the next four.




You got that right! Here's one of the camps they'll likely send us to:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...26260716604258

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Marty wrote in
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What happened in Gaza and large pieces of the West Bank in 2005?

Cheers
Martin



Israeli settlers were offered a large bribe to move out of Gaza from the
confiscated Gazan land after it was decided to turn Gaza into a
concentration camp trying to keep Hamas from being elected. They moved,
but it didn't work. Hamas was elected, anyway.

If you'll refer to the movie I posted, there is a large map showing the
split-up tiny islands of palestinian land with Israeli-only roads,
Israeli settlements and military corridors heavily dividing the West
Bank into small concentration camps to keep Apartheid enforceable.

If you refer to the map set on:
http://www.ccmep.org/delegations/maps/palestine.html
You can see the ever-shrinking dark green land areas of palestinians
living under forced occupation army with only 3 tiny areas actually
under Palestinian control....just enough to show the international
community and say they have control. As Palestinians have no military
or police forces to oppose instant Israeli invasions and mass murder by
the Zionists, it's all a farcical charade. When Israel wants more of
the West Bank for more Israeli Jew Only settlements, it simply shows up
with bulldozers to level whatever the Palestinians have, burying their
personal property inside the rubble to start building the Jew housing
blocks atop it....as they have over and over again, in direct violation
of international law.

There is also a checkpoint map on this map set where Israeli troops,
again in direct violation of freedom of movement international laws,
prohibits, inhibits and harrasses any Palestinians who try to travel
anywhere.

Let's set up a Gestapo checkpoint at the entrance to your little Jewish
neighborhood to check your papers and ask questions while they tear your
car apart and go through all your wife's personal stuff in her handbag
EVERY time you want to go to the store....ok?

Of course, the apartheid wall is used to divide up more Palestinian
farms to prevent the farmer on one side from tending his olive trees on
the other, so we can destroy the trees for more condos for Jews ONLY to
live in. Palestinians on one side have 3 hours of water a week. Jews
on the other are swimming in their swimming pools US taxpayers have paid
very dearly to provide, against their will if they find out.

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WaIIy wrote in
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:43:48 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
. ..
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

I am not your enemy, though I find some of your comments
about Israel utterly reprehensible.



At some point, making any comment will be illegal.


That was far closer to happening in the last eight years than it is
likely to be in the next four.


You must be crazy. It's quite the opposite


Americans run under the illusion that Bush and Obama are somehow
opposite in what they will do for/to us. They are mistaken. Remember
back when the Zionist media tried to portray Obama as some kind of
Muslim because his middle name is Hussein and his father was a Muslim?
That was all a smoke screen blown all to hell as soon as he put the HEAD
Jew of AIPAC in the Whitehouse as Chief of Staff, the Israeli soldier
and spy Rahm Emanuel. This Jew votes for Israel over all American
interests 100%, handing over our dwindling resources any time asked.

Google Rahm Emanuel to find out more about this Jew's Jew at the HEAD of
the new government. We might as well have elected the head of the
Mossad secret police....or Ohmert, himself.

Obama's cabinet has the same Jews as Bill Clintons, all nicely seated at
the top of the power heap for AIPAC and Israeli Intellegence.

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"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:43:48 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
. ..
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

I am not your enemy, though I find some of your comments
about Israel utterly reprehensible.



At some point, making any comment will be illegal.


That was far closer to happening in the last eight years than it is likely
to be in the next four.


You must be crazy. It's quite the opposite


Yeah, because Bush had such a hands on approach to diplomacy!

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
WaIIy wrote in
:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:43:48 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

I am not your enemy, though I find some of your comments
about Israel utterly reprehensible.



At some point, making any comment will be illegal.


That was far closer to happening in the last eight years than it is
likely to be in the next four.


You must be crazy. It's quite the opposite


Americans run under the illusion that Bush and Obama are somehow
opposite in what they will do for/to us. They are mistaken. Remember
back when the Zionist media tried to portray Obama as some kind of
Muslim because his middle name is Hussein and his father was a Muslim?
That was all a smoke screen blown all to hell as soon as he put the HEAD
Jew of AIPAC in the Whitehouse as Chief of Staff, the Israeli soldier
and spy Rahm Emanuel. This Jew votes for Israel over all American
interests 100%, handing over our dwindling resources any time asked.

Google Rahm Emanuel to find out more about this Jew's Jew at the HEAD of
the new government. We might as well have elected the head of the
Mossad secret police....or Ohmert, himself.

Obama's cabinet has the same Jews as Bill Clintons, all nicely seated at
the top of the power heap for AIPAC and Israeli Intellegence.



Why don't you tell us again about Hitler not finishing the job....


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"Larry" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
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Look what Hitler did in WWII...

http://isurvived.org/Holocaust-definition.html




Hitler's dead. So isn't Iran, mostly....very poor.


racist crap removed

So, Hitler didn't finish the job, apparently... at least according to you.

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Larry wrote:

Let's set up a Gestapo checkpoint at the entrance to your little Jewish
neighborhood to check your papers and ask questions while they tear your
car apart and go through all your wife's personal stuff in her handbag
EVERY time you want to go to the store....ok?

Israel now has numerous military forces well within easy striking
distance of Hamas rockets, yet Hamas still aims all their rockets at
innocent Israeli women and children instead. And we all know what Hamas
have forced their women to put in their handbags, and why. Of course you
have to clamp down on murderous maniacs like that. It's every civilized
society's duty to protect innocent people as much as they can.

Meanwhile, is Israel seeking to kill off innocent Arabs? On the
contrary, they do everything they can to avoid it. The slimy Hamas even
uses this superior morality of Israel against them by trying to hide
among their own wives and children and uses them as weapons. Then when
one of those children is killed by Israel firing back, they parade their
own dead children in front of cameras, like fodder, for all to see.

No, it's easy to see who the bad guys are here. And no amount of lunatic
conspiracy raving can change that.

Stephen

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Capt. JG wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote in
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Look what Hitler did in WWII...

http://isurvived.org/Holocaust-definition.html



Hitler's dead. So isn't Iran, mostly....very poor.


racist crap removed

So, Hitler didn't finish the job, apparently... at least according to you.

Yeah, when Larry said that, you could see how the wheels have clicked
over to lunacy, probably long ago.

Stephen

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Stephen Trapani wrote in news:zVIal.32014
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No, it's easy to see who the bad guys are here. And no amount of lunatic
conspiracy raving can change that.

Stephen



And you didn't watch Occupation 101, did you?

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Larry wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:zVIal.32014
:

No, it's easy to see who the bad guys are here. And no amount of lunatic
conspiracy raving can change that.

Stephen



And you didn't watch Occupation 101, did you?


Yeah, I figured when there were almost non-stop lies and one sided
propaganda in the first ten minutes, it wasn't going to get any better.

Is there anything in the rest of it that explains why Hamas prefers to
bomb innocents instead of soldiers? Or why they want to wipe all
infidels (you and I) off the face of the earth?

Stephen

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Stephen Trapani wrote:
Larry wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:zVIal.32014
:

No, it's easy to see who the bad guys are here. And no amount of
lunatic conspiracy raving can change that.

Stephen



And you didn't watch Occupation 101, did you?


Yeah, I figured when there were almost non-stop lies and one sided
propaganda in the first ten minutes, it wasn't going to get any better.

Is there anything in the rest of it that explains why Hamas prefers to
bomb innocents instead of soldiers? Or why they want to wipe all
infidels (you and I) off the face of the earth?

Larry doesn't thing there is an "innocent" Jew, and conveniently ignores
Hamas' avowed desire to rid the earth of any non-Muslim. Perhaps I'm
being unfair, could be Larry doesn't believe that Jews are really human.

Cheers
Martin

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"Marty" wrote in message
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Stephen Trapani wrote:
Larry wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:zVIal.32014
:

No, it's easy to see who the bad guys are here. And no amount of
lunatic conspiracy raving can change that.

Stephen



And you didn't watch Occupation 101, did you?


Yeah, I figured when there were almost non-stop lies and one sided
propaganda in the first ten minutes, it wasn't going to get any better.

Is there anything in the rest of it that explains why Hamas prefers to
bomb innocents instead of soldiers? Or why they want to wipe all infidels
(you and I) off the face of the earth?

Larry doesn't thing there is an "innocent" Jew, and conveniently ignores
Hamas' avowed desire to rid the earth of any non-Muslim. Perhaps I'm
being unfair, could be Larry doesn't believe that Jews are really human.

Cheers
Martin


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH6nQhss4Yc


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Capt. JG wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message
...
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Larry wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:zVIal.32014
:

No, it's easy to see who the bad guys are here. And no amount of
lunatic conspiracy raving can change that.

Stephen


And you didn't watch Occupation 101, did you?

Yeah, I figured when there were almost non-stop lies and one sided
propaganda in the first ten minutes, it wasn't going to get any better.

Is there anything in the rest of it that explains why Hamas prefers to
bomb innocents instead of soldiers? Or why they want to wipe all infidels
(you and I) off the face of the earth?
Larry doesn't thing there is an "innocent" Jew, and conveniently ignores
Hamas' avowed desire to rid the earth of any non-Muslim. Perhaps I'm
being unfair, could be Larry doesn't believe that Jews are really human.

Cheers
Martin


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH6nQhss4Yc


A powerful and eloquent speech, that would have been improved it
Kennedy had not open with "I am a dough nut". One would have thought
his script writer would have laid hands on a real German, Heavens, maybe
even a German Jew to look the speech over.

It doesn't matter, Kennedy was talking about all men being free and
equal, Larry clearly doesn't think that we are part of mankind.

Still, I'll say a prayer for him next time I sit Seder.

Cheers
Martin

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"Marty" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message
...
Stephen Trapani wrote:
Larry wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:zVIal.32014
:

No, it's easy to see who the bad guys are here. And no amount of
lunatic conspiracy raving can change that.

Stephen


And you didn't watch Occupation 101, did you?

Yeah, I figured when there were almost non-stop lies and one sided
propaganda in the first ten minutes, it wasn't going to get any better.

Is there anything in the rest of it that explains why Hamas prefers to
bomb innocents instead of soldiers? Or why they want to wipe all
infidels (you and I) off the face of the earth?
Larry doesn't thing there is an "innocent" Jew, and conveniently ignores
Hamas' avowed desire to rid the earth of any non-Muslim. Perhaps I'm
being unfair, could be Larry doesn't believe that Jews are really human.

Cheers
Martin


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH6nQhss4Yc


A powerful and eloquent speech, that would have been improved it Kennedy
had not open with "I am a dough nut". One would have thought his script
writer would have laid hands on a real German, Heavens, maybe even a
German Jew to look the speech over.

It doesn't matter, Kennedy was talking about all men being free and equal,
Larry clearly doesn't think that we are part of mankind.

Still, I'll say a prayer for him next time I sit Seder.

Cheers
Martin


I think he said some needed to translate it into German after he said it. :)

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Stephen Trapani wrote in news:GyTal.7858
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Is there anything in the rest of it that explains why Hamas prefers to
bomb innocents instead of soldiers? Or why they want to wipe all
infidels (you and I) off the face of the earth?

Stephen



Do you really think that homemade passive rockets have laser guidance
systems that can be pointed at specific targets.....or are they fired
off just to scare everyone, hoping against hope they really hit
something and do damage?

I've seen the potholes these Hamas weapons of mass destruction cause in
an Israeli parking lot. Anyone within 30' would have been stoned.
Conversely, the whole side of huge APARTMENT BUILDINGS is blown off by
the Zionist Army tanks in Gaza, killing a lot of civilians.

How does that compare to dropping American-made Cluster Bombs from
Honeywell over a Palestinian village full of women and kids? You can
see the cluster bombs in the night videos, exploding overhead then a
hundred bomblets of burning death scattering over an area liquid fire.

If Hamas had cluster bombs, instead of homemade fire crackers, I might
feel some remorse. But, alas, the count is 971 dead, 10,000 wounded,
337 Palestinian CHILDREN murdered by international war criminals
attacking civilians. 4 Israelis died from Hamas fire crackers. More
Americans died in 4th-of-July firecracker accidents than that.

Remember when the French Resistance would kill 2 Wehrmacht soldiers and
the Gestapo would take out 200 townspeople and murder them against a
wall in retaliation? The ratio has increased, markedly, in Gaza. Now
it's 1000 murdered for 4 and RISING by the hour.

The Cluster bombs are still going off tonight. I saw them a little
while ago on yet another Gazan village. They finally leveled the first
village to dust so had to move on looking for more French Resistance
victims to kill.

NONE of this is necessary. All the world need do is OUTLAW APARTHEID
for ALL states, not all but one. Just like East Germany, the wall needs
to go and Palestinian lands in Gaza and the West Bank need to be
PERMANENTLY RETURNED to them, even if it has a Jew's condo built onto it
where the family farm used to be.

America can stop the war TONIGHT. Simply admit we are wrong supporting
Zionist terrorism and apartheid and cut off that $15,000,000/day welfare
check to them and all military aid....no exceptions. Those tanks will
move out of Gaza so fast many civilians may be run down if that big cash
cow from America dries up all of a sudden.

Won't happen as long as the Zionists in control of the US government are
allowed to sit in those jobs.....writing those checks.

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Marty wrote in
:

Larry doesn't thing there is an "innocent" Jew, and conveniently
ignores
Hamas' avowed desire to rid the earth of any non-Muslim. Perhaps
I'm
being unfair, could be Larry doesn't believe that Jews are really
human.



Cite me some webpage where Hamas has avowed to kill all Asians or
Australians or New Zealanders or Russians or any OTHER countries NOT
INVOLVED IN SUPPORTING THE ZIONIST TERRORISM OF ISRAEL.

I've never heard any Muslims threatening Canada or Mexico or Panama or
Cuba or any country in South America. Give me some non-Jewish URLs from
the non-Jewish press where that's quoted, too! Will Hamas try to murder
everyone in Belize, too?

Bull****......None of these people are stealing their land, building
concrete concentration camp walls around their villages and burning
their farms to starve out their children. How many South Americans have
ever been harmed by a Hamas attack since 1948? What about other
Palestinian political organizations, like PLO? I don't remember PLO
attacking any South Americans, either. Brazil never attacked Palestine
or supported the Zionist terrorists that killed millions of
Palestinians. I can understand why Palestinians don't attack
Brazilians, can't you?

Of course, you've never lived in an Islamic country, so you won't know
any more than your Rabbi told you, which is quite understandable. I
have, several times, even as an American who constantly got blamed for
my Zionist-controlled government's support of the Zionist threat to
their people. I was always treated, once I explained to them that I had
no more to do with what the Zionist government in Washington, DC, did
than they had control over the Shah, for instance, a Zionist CIA
operative America installed in the early 1950's to control their
country. They could easily see my point. Americans have no control
over the US government any more, at all, now that the voting machines
have been hacked. After an initial period of resentment, I was treated
very well by Iranians and Arabs in Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar and the UAE I
visited.

I did make a deal with a minor Saudi distant cousin to the House of Saud
in a Bahraini hotel lobby, though. I swapped the USA support for Israel
for him supplying 25c/gallon gasoline to Charleston, SC, USA. "That
would be no problem.", he told me. That hatred must run pretty deep!

They got plenty of oil........

We're running out of money to waste at $15,000,000 per day......

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
anews.com:

No wonder our great country is fast going down the toilet. 53% of the
voters are every bit this mindless as they voted for Obama who is a
total socialist, know nothing fraud.

Wilbur Hubbard



Obama works for AIPAC......

McCain works for AIPAC.....

Obama is a Council on Foreign Relations Member.....

McCain is a Council on Foreign Relations Member....

Obama is a Freemason......

McCain is a Freemason......

The list goes on and on and on.....

You don't REALLY think there's any difference between Democans and
Republicrats any more, do you??

You vote for the lawyer of THEIR choice.....

Kennedy was an anomaly not easily shunned. But, "they" solved that
problem in Dallas.

Notice how there's no line on the hacked Diebold voting machine for
"NONE OF THE ABOVE", in case Americans decide to just say NO.....

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Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

You do remember that the major thrust of the "black rights" campaign
was to register voters, don't you?
Cheers,



Do you know who supported NAACP and Martin Luther King, trying to split
America and control it?

David Duke is a different person than the old KKK leader. Read his
Chapter 18 he
http://www.martinlutherking.org/ma-chapter18.html
especially the first page or two, and related it to your experience in
the last 20-30 years.

"I slowly became aware of a dual morality permeating Jewish-Gentile
relations. Jews practiced one morality for themselves and preached
another for the non-Jewish world. Their own morality of racial pride
taught solidarity, tradition and self-interest. But they preached
diversity and liberalism for their perceived competitors. If such
dualism did not exist, how could the Jewish-dominated American media:

* Support the nation of Israel, which promotes Judaism in its
schools, while opposing even the singing of Christmas carols in American
public schools?
* Support the nation of Israel, which has strictly segregated
schools, communities, and facilities for Jews and Arabs - while
condemning segregated schools and housing in America and South Africa?
* Support the nation of Israel, with its restrictive "Jews only"
immigration laws, while subverting American attempts to curtail even
illegal immigration?
* Support the nation of Israel, which allows every Jewish citizen to
carry a machine gun if desired, while advocating strict gun control for
American citizens?
* Support the nation of Israel, which openly states its mission to
preserve the Jewish people and heritage, while condemning Whites who
would dare to advocate the preservation of the White race and Western
culture in America?
* Always paint the historical relations between Jews and Gentiles
with the Gentiles as evildoers and the Jews as innocent victims, while
condemning White people for even defending themselves from such Jewish
depiction? "

Interesting reading CNN would never report, isn't it?

No matter what you think of him and his past, just toss caution to the
wind, lock your doors so noone can accuse you of being an anti-semite,
and THINK FOR YOURSELF about what he is showing you.

Ask very educated Americans you know if they know who the Rosenbergs
were and what they did. All but forgotten in brainwashed America.

They'll all know who Alger Hiss was because he wasn't a Jew. That's
odd, don't you think?



The Nazis aren't the only ones who think they are part of a Super Race.

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Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

You do remember that the major thrust of the "black rights" campaign
was to register voters, don't you?
Cheers,



Another passage of the book I quoted isn't widely known:

"The Civil-Rights Movement

Just as Jewish academics lead the scholastic fight for egalitarianism in
science and sociology, and Jewish media moguls lead the propaganda
fight, the "civil-rights" movement itself found most of its leadership
and financial support in the Jewish community.

Almost from the first day of its inception in 1909, the National
Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) was the
premier organization working for a racially mixed American society.
Interestingly enough, the founding board of directors had only one
prominent Black, W. E. B. Dubois (who was actually a Mulatto). Most of
the board consisted of Jewish Marxist ideologues. The U.S. House of
Representatives and many state investigative bodies thoroughly
documented the fact that all of the NAACP's founders were activists in
the Communist cause. Dubois even chose Communist Ghana as his burial
site.

The NAACP's first president was Arthur Spingarn, and only Jews served as
NAACP presidents from its founding until the 1970s. Noel Spingarn
succeeded his brother, Arthur, and following him, Kivie Kaplan reigned
over the organization. The Jewish leadership of the NAACP was little
known by the public at large. When I came of age, the only name I heard
associated with the NAACP was Roy Wilkins, who was its Black national
secretary. Because he was so much in the press and public eye, like most
Americans, I thought Wilkins was the NAACP leader. But Kaplan was the
actual NAACP president during that time. Benjamin Hooks became the first
Black president finally in the 1970s. Once a Black finally made it to
the presidency of the organization, no longer did the public hear much
about the NAACP "national secretary." From then on the public spokesman
was the NAACP president."

Blacks didn't run the NAACP until the 1970's. The organization dates
back to the turn of the 20th century. Finally realizing what was being
done to them, and why, Blacks turned on the Jews running it all.

Homogenizing America, except the Jews of course, they were all for.
Homogenizing Israel is abhorrant.......Why?

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:GyTal.7858
:

Is there anything in the rest of it that explains why Hamas prefers to
bomb innocents instead of soldiers? Or why they want to wipe all
infidels (you and I) off the face of the earth?

Stephen



Do you really think that homemade passive rockets have laser guidance
systems that can be pointed at specific targets.....or are they fired
off just to scare everyone, hoping against hope they really hit
something and do damage?

I've seen the potholes these Hamas weapons of mass destruction cause in
an Israeli parking lot. Anyone within 30' would have been stoned.
Conversely, the whole side of huge APARTMENT BUILDINGS is blown off by
the Zionist Army tanks in Gaza, killing a lot of civilians.

How does that compare to dropping American-made Cluster Bombs from
Honeywell over a Palestinian village full of women and kids? You can
see the cluster bombs in the night videos, exploding overhead then a
hundred bomblets of burning death scattering over an area liquid fire.

If Hamas had cluster bombs, instead of homemade fire crackers, I might
feel some remorse. But, alas, the count is 971 dead, 10,000 wounded,
337 Palestinian CHILDREN murdered by international war criminals
attacking civilians. 4 Israelis died from Hamas fire crackers. More
Americans died in 4th-of-July firecracker accidents than that.

Remember when the French Resistance would kill 2 Wehrmacht soldiers and
the Gestapo would take out 200 townspeople and murder them against a
wall in retaliation? The ratio has increased, markedly, in Gaza. Now
it's 1000 murdered for 4 and RISING by the hour.

The Cluster bombs are still going off tonight. I saw them a little
while ago on yet another Gazan village. They finally leveled the first
village to dust so had to move on looking for more French Resistance
victims to kill.

NONE of this is necessary. All the world need do is OUTLAW APARTHEID
for ALL states, not all but one. Just like East Germany, the wall needs
to go and Palestinian lands in Gaza and the West Bank need to be
PERMANENTLY RETURNED to them, even if it has a Jew's condo built onto it
where the family farm used to be.

America can stop the war TONIGHT. Simply admit we are wrong supporting
Zionist terrorism and apartheid and cut off that $15,000,000/day welfare
check to them and all military aid....no exceptions. Those tanks will
move out of Gaza so fast many civilians may be run down if that big cash
cow from America dries up all of a sudden.

Won't happen as long as the Zionists in control of the US government are
allowed to sit in those jobs.....writing those checks.

You, sir, are a disgusting excuse for a human being.

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How does that compare to dropping American-made Cluster Bombs from
Honeywell over a Palestinian village full of women and kids? You can
see the cluster bombs in the night videos, exploding overhead then a
hundred bomblets of burning death scattering over an area liquid fire.

If Hamas had cluster bombs, instead of homemade fire crackers, I might
feel some remorse. But, alas, the count is 971 dead, 10,000 wounded,
337 Palestinian CHILDREN murdered by international war criminals
attacking civilians. 4 Israelis died from Hamas fire crackers. More
Americans died in 4th-of-July firecracker accidents than that.

Remember when the French Resistance would kill 2 Wehrmacht soldiers and
the Gestapo would take out 200 townspeople and murder them against a
wall in retaliation? The ratio has increased, markedly, in Gaza. Now
it's 1000 murdered for 4 and RISING by the hour.

The Cluster bombs are still going off tonight. I saw them a little
while ago on yet another Gazan village. They finally leveled the first
village to dust so had to move on looking for more French Resistance
victims to kill.



NOT cluster bombs and NOT napalm as you stated a few days ago. This
is willie peter used as smoke cover to hide an Israeli advance.
Now white phosphorus is not something you want to get on your body as
it burns hotter if hit with water. But it is not normally an offensive
weapon.
It is normally delivered by artillery and fused as an air burst.
Gordon

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Larry wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:GyTal.7858
:

Is there anything in the rest of it that explains why Hamas prefers to
bomb innocents instead of soldiers? Or why they want to wipe all
infidels (you and I) off the face of the earth?

Stephen



Do you really think that homemade passive rockets have laser guidance
systems that can be pointed at specific targets.....or are they fired
off just to scare everyone, hoping against hope they really hit
something and do damage?

Aha, so there's your problem. You haven't a clue what's going on. You've
got to get your head out of all those kook sites and catch up on the
news. Here you go:

Google is a web page where you can use the internet to learn about
almost anything. If you go there and put in "Hamas Rockets" you will get
quite an eye opening, especially from the link at globalsecurity.org.
Look at all the advanced foreign missiles Hamas is using.

When you get back answer my question. Why is Hamas still firing their
rockets at Israeli civilians instead of the soldiers attacking their
territory? I don't really believe that you think Israeli children are
somehow subhuman and don't deserve protection as much as you and I.

I've seen the potholes these Hamas weapons of mass destruction cause in
an Israeli parking lot. Anyone within 30' would have been stoned.
Conversely, the whole side of huge APARTMENT BUILDINGS is blown off by
the Zionist Army tanks in Gaza, killing a lot of civilians.

How does that compare to dropping American-made Cluster Bombs from
Honeywell over a Palestinian village full of women and kids? You can
see the cluster bombs in the night videos, exploding overhead then a
hundred bomblets of burning death scattering over an area liquid fire.

Okay, now just think for five seconds. You know that Hamas soldiers
store their weapons and fire missiles from heavily populated areas,
right? Now why would they do that if Israel has such a disregard for
civilian casualties?

Next question. Israel didn't invade Gaza until more than *10,000*
missiles had been fired at Israeli civilians. How many rockets would you
tolerate being fired at you before you wanted the country firing them
invaded and stopped?

You're smart Larry, you can do this.

Stephen

The worst Democrat President
 

Larry wrote:
Marty wrote in
:

Larry doesn't thing there is an "innocent" Jew, and conveniently
ignores
Hamas' avowed desire to rid the earth of any non-Muslim. Perhaps
I'm
being unfair, could be Larry doesn't believe that Jews are really
human.


Cite me some webpage where Hamas has avowed to kill all Asians or
Australians or New Zealanders or Russians or any OTHER countries NOT
INVOLVED IN SUPPORTING THE ZIONIST TERRORISM OF ISRAEL.

I've never heard any Muslims threatening Canada or Mexico or Panama or
Cuba or any country in South America. Give me some non-Jewish URLs from
the non-Jewish press where that's quoted, too! Will Hamas try to murder
everyone in Belize, too?

Again, Larry you have to open your eyes! You have to consider the
possibility that you *might* be mistaken and the other side of the story
has some merit. How would you ever know if you *never* investigate?

Bin Laden's last message carried a very telling statement. Not one that
he hadn't said before many times, along with Hamas and all those other
extremist nuts.

He said (I'm paraphrasing): "American citizens, we have nothing against
you. All you have to do is convert to Islam and we will be at peace with
you."

Stephen

The worst Democrat President
 

Stephen Trapani wrote in news:TEcbl.44122
:

Okay, now just think for five seconds. You know that Hamas soldiers
store their weapons and fire missiles from heavily populated areas,
right? Now why would they do that if Israel has such a disregard for
civilian casualties?

Next question. Israel didn't invade Gaza until more than *10,000*
missiles had been fired at Israeli civilians. How many rockets would
you
tolerate being fired at you before you wanted the country firing them
invaded and stopped?

You're smart Larry, you can do this.

Stephen



But, Steven, you're still making the most powerful country in the Middle
East, the one with hundreds of nuclear weapons from its nuclear weapons
labs, the most powerful Army and Air Force, THE ONE BLOCKADING AND
STARVING THE CHILDRED THEY'RE CLUSTER BOMBING TONIGHT, out as the
victim.

They are NOT the victim. Hamas rockets are the result of a crippling
BLOCKADE turning Gaza into a concentration camp of starving human
suffering! No amount of Jewish bull**** can cover that FACT. The
blockade is complete and unrelenting.

What's the difference between being killed by American bombs from
Israeli planes and just sitting there starving to death because there's
no food to eat, no jobs to get, total hopelessness from the Zionist
Apartheid government practicing ethnic genocide? The Jews moved out of
Gazan settlements and then sealed the place up to starve out the
Palestinians that are left.

When is enough genocide enough?

If Hamas had never fired a single rocket, their people would be STILL
paying the price starving their children to death in the Israeli's
concentration camps. This isn't new. It's been going on since 1948.

What the rockets DID do was BRING WORLD ATTENTION TO THEM THEY LACKED.
The rockets have done a wonderful job getting attention to their plight.
Jew media is having a hard time explaining the TRUTH about the BLOCKADE.

I am smart. That's why I cannot stand the Israeli takeover of my
country.

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Stephen Trapani wrote in news:3Jcbl.44143
:

He said (I'm paraphrasing): "American citizens, we have nothing
against
you. All you have to do is convert to Islam and we will be at peace
with
you."

Stephen



Well, let's look into the Talmud, shall we? Let's recite that prayer
you Jews repeat where it says thank god you're not a Goyim. I have an
English Koran....and an English Talmud. I've read them both as the cult
books that they both are, along with the Christians' Bible. All three
talk about killing off any humans not of that particular cult. That's
not about Islam, it's about RELIGION and it's very long history of
GENOCIDE and MURDER.

I can read what it says. A Jew translated my copy. This is an
interesting list to save time, he

http://www.missionislam.com/nwo/talmud.htm

Notice Islam is pointing out the same about YOU...

"Thank you God for not making me a Gentile, a woman or a slave..."

"Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon
ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog ("Even the best of the gentiles should
all be killed")."

These pages of justification for Gentile genocide need to be considered.

"Moses Maimonides: Advocate of Extermination

"Moses Maimonides is considered the greatest codifier and philosopher in
Jewish history. He is often affectionately referred to as the Rambam,
after the initials of his name and title, Rabenu Moshe Ben Maimon, "Our
Rabbi, Moses son of Maimon." [Maimonides' Principles, edited by Aryeh
Kaplan, Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America,, p. 3].

Here is what Maimonides (Rambam) taught concerning saving people's
lives, especially concerning saving the lives of gentiles and
Christians, or even Jews who dared to deny the "divine inspiration" of
the Talmud:

Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Moznaim Publishing Corporation, Brooklyn,
New York, 1990, Chapter 10, English Translation), p. 184: "Accordingly,
if we see an idolater (gentile) being swept away or drowning in the
river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we
should not save him." The Hebrew text of the Feldheim 1981 edition of
Mishnah Torah states this as well.

Immediately after Maimonides' admonition that it is a duty for Jews not
to save a drowning or perishing gentile, he informs us of the Talmudic
duty of Jews towards Goyim, and also towards Jews who deny the Talmud.
Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Chapter 10), p. 184:

"It is a mitzvah [religious duty], however, to eradicate Jewish
traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit
of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the
people away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and
Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot."

Now, tell us all how that doesn't mean anything like what THAT SAYS.....

They'd kill us ALL if they could....and are little by little by
little....

One of the most refreshing things about Atheism is being able to step
OUT of the REAL darkness, the shroud of religion, into the REAL light,
seeing what a sham all this religious bull**** and murder and
brainwashing really is.....

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:TEcbl.44122
:

Okay, now just think for five seconds. You know that Hamas soldiers
store their weapons and fire missiles from heavily populated areas,
right? Now why would they do that if Israel has such a disregard for
civilian casualties?

Next question. Israel didn't invade Gaza until more than *10,000*
missiles had been fired at Israeli civilians. How many rockets would
you
tolerate being fired at you before you wanted the country firing them
invaded and stopped?

You're smart Larry, you can do this.

Stephen



But, Steven, you're still making the most powerful country in the Middle
East, the one with hundreds of nuclear weapons from its nuclear weapons
labs, the most powerful Army and Air Force, THE ONE BLOCKADING AND
STARVING THE CHILDRED THEY'RE CLUSTER BOMBING TONIGHT, out as the
victim.

They are NOT the victim. Hamas rockets are the result of a crippling
BLOCKADE turning Gaza into a concentration camp of starving human
suffering! No amount of Jewish bull**** can cover that FACT. The
blockade is complete and unrelenting.

What's the difference between being killed by American bombs from
Israeli planes and just sitting there starving to death because there's
no food to eat, no jobs to get, total hopelessness from the Zionist
Apartheid government practicing ethnic genocide? The Jews moved out of
Gazan settlements and then sealed the place up to starve out the
Palestinians that are left.

When is enough genocide enough?

If Hamas had never fired a single rocket, their people would be STILL
paying the price starving their children to death in the Israeli's
concentration camps. This isn't new. It's been going on since 1948.

What the rockets DID do was BRING WORLD ATTENTION TO THEM THEY LACKED.
The rockets have done a wonderful job getting attention to their plight.
Jew media is having a hard time explaining the TRUTH about the BLOCKADE.

I am smart. That's why I cannot stand the Israeli takeover of my
country.



I think you should tell us again about Hitler's unfinished final solution...


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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Larry wrote:

"It is a mitzvah [religious duty], however, to eradicate Jewish
traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit
of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the
people away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and
Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot."

Now, tell us all how that doesn't mean anything like what THAT SAYS.....

They'd kill us ALL if they could....and are little by little by
little....

One of the most refreshing things about Atheism is being able to step
OUT of the REAL darkness, the shroud of religion, into the REAL light,
seeing what a sham all this religious bull**** and murder and
brainwashing really is.....


No, let's look at the actual actions of the religions and extremists,
whether Muslim or Christian. Let stop any and all of them from
threatening innocent people. So when we find Christian kooks trying to
blow up buildings and kill innocent people we put them in jail or
execute them. When we find large groups of Islamic kooks trying to blow
up buildings and kill innocent people, like Al Qaeda, Hamas, and
Hezbollah, we do the same thing.

When we see Israel and the US setting up a secular/democratic society,
were the vast majority of citizens subject their religious books to
rational criticism and reject the parts that are racist or wrong in some
way, we shouldn't condemn those societies because they still follow
parts of those books, we should congratulate them for making progress
out of the dark ages and do everything we can to help them flourish,
especially when they are surrounded by extremists who want their own
version of the dark ages to return.

Stephen

The worst Democrat President
 

Larry wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:TEcbl.44122
:

Okay, now just think for five seconds. You know that Hamas soldiers
store their weapons and fire missiles from heavily populated areas,
right? Now why would they do that if Israel has such a disregard for
civilian casualties?

Next question. Israel didn't invade Gaza until more than *10,000*
missiles had been fired at Israeli civilians. How many rockets would
you
tolerate being fired at you before you wanted the country firing them
invaded and stopped?

You're smart Larry, you can do this.

Stephen



But, Steven, you're still making the most powerful country in the Middle
East, the one with hundreds of nuclear weapons from its nuclear weapons
labs, the most powerful Army and Air Force, THE ONE BLOCKADING AND
STARVING THE CHILDRED THEY'RE CLUSTER BOMBING TONIGHT, out as the
victim.

Do you know why you can't make yourself answer any of my questions?
Because if you even thought about them for five seconds you know where
it would lead. There are no cluster bombs, Larry. It defies reason.

They are NOT the victim. Hamas rockets are the result of a crippling
BLOCKADE turning Gaza into a concentration camp of starving human
suffering! No amount of Jewish bull**** can cover that FACT. The
blockade is complete and unrelenting.

The crippling blockade is the result of primitive savages strapping
bombs to themselves and killing innocent citizens. Why are you giving
these murderers a pass?

What's the difference between being killed by American bombs from
Israeli planes and just sitting there starving to death because there's
no food to eat, no jobs to get, total hopelessness from the Zionist
Apartheid government practicing ethnic genocide? The Jews moved out of
Gazan settlements and then sealed the place up to starve out the
Palestinians that are left.

They didn't seal the place up, they just stopped them from freely
traveling into Israel and bombing innocent people. Have you ever seen a
map of the area and wondered how one border can "seal the place up?"
Israel doesn't surround the Palestinian territories. You're making no
sense at all.

When is enough genocide enough?

If Hamas had never fired a single rocket, their people would be STILL
paying the price starving their children to death in the Israeli's
concentration camps. This isn't new. It's been going on since 1948.

Why do you think this?

What the rockets DID do was BRING WORLD ATTENTION TO THEM THEY LACKED.
The rockets have done a wonderful job getting attention to their plight.
Jew media is having a hard time explaining the TRUTH about the BLOCKADE.

So if the poor people near you started lobbing mortars at you, wiping
out a few of the women and babies nearby, you'd think it was a great way
of bringing attention to their plight? Really? Poor drug addicts are
justified in stealing and mugging because they are poor? Is that really
your moral philosophy?

The Palestinians are poor and pitiful not due to Israel but due to their
own depraved philosophy of the world. How are they going to build a good
economy when they despise the very free economic principles that would
bring it to them? How are they going to thrive when they love oppression
of women and when free speech is abhorrent to them?

I am smart. That's why I cannot stand the Israeli takeover of my
country.

What country is that?

Stephen

The worst Democrat President
 

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:11:25 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:
Snipped...

When we see Israel and the US setting up a secular/democratic society,
were the vast majority of citizens subject their religious books to
rational criticism and reject the parts that are racist or wrong in some
way, we shouldn't condemn those societies because they still follow
parts of those books, we should congratulate them for making progress
out of the dark ages and do everything we can to help them flourish,
especially when they are surrounded by extremists who want their own
version of the dark ages to return.

Stephen

So, you are going to rewrite three holy books? I don't believe it's
gonna work.

First of all there are at least two versions of the Christian's holy
book and one of them used by a bunch that argues they were appointed
by the founder of the religion and another gang that insists that the
first lot is corrupt.

The Moslems believe that their book is the actual word of God.
Dictated by him/her/it directly to Muhammad.

The Jews believe that certain parts of their book is, again, the
direct word of God, handed down on tablets of stone.

I'm interested, who are you going to get to manage this project?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:11:25 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:
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When we see Israel and the US setting up a secular/democratic society,
were the vast majority of citizens subject their religious books to
rational criticism and reject the parts that are racist or wrong in some
way, we shouldn't condemn those societies because they still follow
parts of those books, we should congratulate them for making progress
out of the dark ages and do everything we can to help them flourish,
especially when they are surrounded by extremists who want their own
version of the dark ages to return.

Stephen

So, you are going to rewrite three holy books? I don't believe it's
gonna work.

First of all there are at least two versions of the Christian's holy
book and one of them used by a bunch that argues they were appointed
by the founder of the religion and another gang that insists that the
first lot is corrupt.

The Moslems believe that their book is the actual word of God.
Dictated by him/her/it directly to Muhammad.

The Jews believe that certain parts of their book is, again, the
direct word of God, handed down on tablets of stone.

I'm interested, who are you going to get to manage this project?

No need to rewrite. Just do what all denominations do: Offensive
passages are thought of as metaphorical or not actual commandments for
our time (only relevant to the times they were written in). Using this
method you can make the actual words say almost anything you want them
to say.

Stephen

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easolutions:

I think you should tell us again about Hitler's unfinished final
solution...


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Same deflection from the facts....different day....

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Stephen Trapani wrote in news:Cegbl.21426
:

When we see Israel and the US setting up a secular/democratic society,
were the vast majority of citizens subject their religious books to
rational criticism and reject the parts that are racist or wrong in
some
way, we shouldn't condemn those societies because they still follow
parts of those books, we should congratulate them for making progress
out of the dark ages and do everything we can to help them flourish,
especially when they are surrounded by extremists who want their own
version of the dark ages to return.

Stephen



I think my ideas are better. America simply EXTRICATES itself from
foreign entanglements and LEAVES EVERYONE ELSE ALONE!

The Taliban never attacked a single American. Hell, our CIA was the
reason, just like the Shah, they were in power in the first place.

I don't care if your country is ruled by a fire-breathing, 2-headed
dragon as long as he doesn't bother my country. That worked JUST FINE
for America until the Jews dragged us into European wars in the last
century.

"We can't do that" is nonsense. Let's see....take any non-warlord
country...hmmmm...Bahamas. Bahamas minds its own business, has no huge
military monster eating up its wealth, hands out no money to any other
country at its citizens' expense and not a single country on Earth
threatens Bahamas with war/terrorism/economic strangulation/etc.
Bahamas is not under any threat from Taliban, Islam, Jews, Buddists,
Iran, Saddam, Al Queda, North Korea, Communist China....noone. Why?
Because Bahamas minds its own business and threatens NOONE. Bahamas
doesn't take sides with every little conflict and doesn't FINANCE this
side or that side to make enemies with anyone. It's NEUTRAL, though
leans a bit towards the UK. What the hell would the USA do with all the
money it saved by NOT trying to be Israel's World Police Force?!

Yep, we should be exactly like Bahamas....NEUTRAL....selfishly
independent....

We wouldn't be the enemy of every despot on the planet worrying if he is
next for the CIA's death squads. We could travel and they'd say, "Oh,
you're from the Bahamas? You're OK in our book." Noone I can ever
remember burned a Bahamas flag in Effigy or threatened it. Bahamas is
everybody's friend!

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Stephen Trapani wrote in news:Pvgbl.25433
:

There are no cluster bombs, Larry. It defies reason.


Bull****! You can see them exploding in the darkness over Gaza right on
TV! Denial won't change live images.....

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Stephen Trapani wrote in news:Pvgbl.25433
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What country is that?


The United States of AIPAC.