wrote in :

The problem, historically is that any time there is a cease fire for
any length of time, all it does is give the Palestinians an
opportunity to re-group and strengthen. Once they do that, it all
starts over again. That Israel is even occasionally stopping for a few
hours to let food and supplies into Gaza is a testament to thier
patience.



The cease fire NEVER stops the bulldozing and forced evictions and illegal
expansions of the Isreali settlers onto Palestinians' land, though, does
it.

There will be no peace until Israeli ethnic cleansing stops....

Larry wrote:
wrote in :

The problem, historically is that any time there is a cease fire for
any length of time, all it does is give the Palestinians an
opportunity to re-group and strengthen. Once they do that, it all
starts over again. That Israel is even occasionally stopping for a few
hours to let food and supplies into Gaza is a testament to thier
patience.



The cease fire NEVER stops the bulldozing and forced evictions and illegal
expansions of the Isreali settlers onto Palestinians' land, though, does

What happened in Gaza and large pieces of the West Bank in 2005?

Cheers
Martin

Marty wrote in
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What happened in Gaza and large pieces of the West Bank in 2005?

Cheers
Martin



Israeli settlers were offered a large bribe to move out of Gaza from the
confiscated Gazan land after it was decided to turn Gaza into a
concentration camp trying to keep Hamas from being elected. They moved,
but it didn't work. Hamas was elected, anyway.

If you'll refer to the movie I posted, there is a large map showing the
split-up tiny islands of palestinian land with Israeli-only roads,
Israeli settlements and military corridors heavily dividing the West
Bank into small concentration camps to keep Apartheid enforceable.

If you refer to the map set on:
http://www.ccmep.org/delegations/maps/palestine.html
You can see the ever-shrinking dark green land areas of palestinians
living under forced occupation army with only 3 tiny areas actually
under Palestinian control....just enough to show the international
community and say they have control. As Palestinians have no military
or police forces to oppose instant Israeli invasions and mass murder by
the Zionists, it's all a farcical charade. When Israel wants more of
the West Bank for more Israeli Jew Only settlements, it simply shows up
with bulldozers to level whatever the Palestinians have, burying their
personal property inside the rubble to start building the Jew housing
blocks atop it....as they have over and over again, in direct violation
of international law.

There is also a checkpoint map on this map set where Israeli troops,
again in direct violation of freedom of movement international laws,
prohibits, inhibits and harrasses any Palestinians who try to travel
anywhere.

Let's set up a Gestapo checkpoint at the entrance to your little Jewish
neighborhood to check your papers and ask questions while they tear your
car apart and go through all your wife's personal stuff in her handbag
EVERY time you want to go to the store....ok?

Of course, the apartheid wall is used to divide up more Palestinian
farms to prevent the farmer on one side from tending his olive trees on
the other, so we can destroy the trees for more condos for Jews ONLY to
live in. Palestinians on one side have 3 hours of water a week. Jews
on the other are swimming in their swimming pools US taxpayers have paid
very dearly to provide, against their will if they find out.

Larry wrote:

Let's set up a Gestapo checkpoint at the entrance to your little Jewish
neighborhood to check your papers and ask questions while they tear your
car apart and go through all your wife's personal stuff in her handbag
EVERY time you want to go to the store....ok?

Israel now has numerous military forces well within easy striking
distance of Hamas rockets, yet Hamas still aims all their rockets at
innocent Israeli women and children instead. And we all know what Hamas
have forced their women to put in their handbags, and why. Of course you
have to clamp down on murderous maniacs like that. It's every civilized
society's duty to protect innocent people as much as they can.

Meanwhile, is Israel seeking to kill off innocent Arabs? On the
contrary, they do everything they can to avoid it. The slimy Hamas even
uses this superior morality of Israel against them by trying to hide
among their own wives and children and uses them as weapons. Then when
one of those children is killed by Israel firing back, they parade their
own dead children in front of cameras, like fodder, for all to see.

No, it's easy to see who the bad guys are here. And no amount of lunatic
conspiracy raving can change that.

Stephen

Stephen Trapani wrote in news:zVIal.32014
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No, it's easy to see who the bad guys are here. And no amount of lunatic
conspiracy raving can change that.

Stephen



And you didn't watch Occupation 101, did you?

Larry wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:zVIal.32014
:

No, it's easy to see who the bad guys are here. And no amount of lunatic
conspiracy raving can change that.

Stephen



And you didn't watch Occupation 101, did you?


Yeah, I figured when there were almost non-stop lies and one sided
propaganda in the first ten minutes, it wasn't going to get any better.

Is there anything in the rest of it that explains why Hamas prefers to
bomb innocents instead of soldiers? Or why they want to wipe all
infidels (you and I) off the face of the earth?

Stephen

Stephen Trapani wrote:
Larry wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:zVIal.32014
:

No, it's easy to see who the bad guys are here. And no amount of
lunatic conspiracy raving can change that.

Stephen



And you didn't watch Occupation 101, did you?


Yeah, I figured when there were almost non-stop lies and one sided
propaganda in the first ten minutes, it wasn't going to get any better.

Is there anything in the rest of it that explains why Hamas prefers to
bomb innocents instead of soldiers? Or why they want to wipe all
infidels (you and I) off the face of the earth?

Larry doesn't thing there is an "innocent" Jew, and conveniently ignores
Hamas' avowed desire to rid the earth of any non-Muslim. Perhaps I'm
being unfair, could be Larry doesn't believe that Jews are really human.

Cheers
Martin

Stephen Trapani wrote in news:GyTal.7858
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Is there anything in the rest of it that explains why Hamas prefers to
bomb innocents instead of soldiers? Or why they want to wipe all
infidels (you and I) off the face of the earth?

Stephen



Do you really think that homemade passive rockets have laser guidance
systems that can be pointed at specific targets.....or are they fired
off just to scare everyone, hoping against hope they really hit
something and do damage?

I've seen the potholes these Hamas weapons of mass destruction cause in
an Israeli parking lot. Anyone within 30' would have been stoned.
Conversely, the whole side of huge APARTMENT BUILDINGS is blown off by
the Zionist Army tanks in Gaza, killing a lot of civilians.

How does that compare to dropping American-made Cluster Bombs from
Honeywell over a Palestinian village full of women and kids? You can
see the cluster bombs in the night videos, exploding overhead then a
hundred bomblets of burning death scattering over an area liquid fire.

If Hamas had cluster bombs, instead of homemade fire crackers, I might
feel some remorse. But, alas, the count is 971 dead, 10,000 wounded,
337 Palestinian CHILDREN murdered by international war criminals
attacking civilians. 4 Israelis died from Hamas fire crackers. More
Americans died in 4th-of-July firecracker accidents than that.

Remember when the French Resistance would kill 2 Wehrmacht soldiers and
the Gestapo would take out 200 townspeople and murder them against a
wall in retaliation? The ratio has increased, markedly, in Gaza. Now
it's 1000 murdered for 4 and RISING by the hour.

The Cluster bombs are still going off tonight. I saw them a little
while ago on yet another Gazan village. They finally leveled the first
village to dust so had to move on looking for more French Resistance
victims to kill.

NONE of this is necessary. All the world need do is OUTLAW APARTHEID
for ALL states, not all but one. Just like East Germany, the wall needs
to go and Palestinian lands in Gaza and the West Bank need to be
PERMANENTLY RETURNED to them, even if it has a Jew's condo built onto it
where the family farm used to be.

America can stop the war TONIGHT. Simply admit we are wrong supporting
Zionist terrorism and apartheid and cut off that $15,000,000/day welfare
check to them and all military aid....no exceptions. Those tanks will
move out of Gaza so fast many civilians may be run down if that big cash
cow from America dries up all of a sudden.

Won't happen as long as the Zionists in control of the US government are
allowed to sit in those jobs.....writing those checks.