"Larry" wrote in message
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Stephen Trapani wrote in news:TEcbl.44122
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Okay, now just think for five seconds. You know that Hamas soldiers
store their weapons and fire missiles from heavily populated areas,
right? Now why would they do that if Israel has such a disregard for
civilian casualties?

Next question. Israel didn't invade Gaza until more than *10,000*
missiles had been fired at Israeli civilians. How many rockets would
you
tolerate being fired at you before you wanted the country firing them
invaded and stopped?

You're smart Larry, you can do this.

Stephen



But, Steven, you're still making the most powerful country in the Middle
East, the one with hundreds of nuclear weapons from its nuclear weapons
labs, the most powerful Army and Air Force, THE ONE BLOCKADING AND
STARVING THE CHILDRED THEY'RE CLUSTER BOMBING TONIGHT, out as the
victim.

They are NOT the victim. Hamas rockets are the result of a crippling
BLOCKADE turning Gaza into a concentration camp of starving human
suffering! No amount of Jewish bull**** can cover that FACT. The
blockade is complete and unrelenting.

What's the difference between being killed by American bombs from
Israeli planes and just sitting there starving to death because there's
no food to eat, no jobs to get, total hopelessness from the Zionist
Apartheid government practicing ethnic genocide? The Jews moved out of
Gazan settlements and then sealed the place up to starve out the
Palestinians that are left.

When is enough genocide enough?

If Hamas had never fired a single rocket, their people would be STILL
paying the price starving their children to death in the Israeli's
concentration camps. This isn't new. It's been going on since 1948.

What the rockets DID do was BRING WORLD ATTENTION TO THEM THEY LACKED.
The rockets have done a wonderful job getting attention to their plight.
Jew media is having a hard time explaining the TRUTH about the BLOCKADE.

I am smart. That's why I cannot stand the Israeli takeover of my
country.

You are a filthy pig.

"jlrogers±³©" wrote in news:SJqbl.112$Lr6.82
@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com:

You are a filthy pig.



Wow...I'm impressed.

"Larry" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

I think you should tell us again about Hitler's unfinished final
solution...


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Same deflection from the facts....different day....


So, you're not going to remind us? Ok, here you go:

**** you and your goddamned Zionist murderers.

**** the Zionist US government for supporting genocide.

Hitler should have killed them all.


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"Capt. JG" wrote in news:27mdnTc-
reasolutions:

"Larry" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
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I think you should tell us again about Hitler's unfinished final
solution...


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Same deflection from the facts....different day....


So, you're not going to remind us? Ok, here you go:

**** you and your goddamned Zionist murderers.

**** the Zionist US government for supporting genocide.

Hitler should have killed them all.



Hitler was just following the instructions in the Talmud.

On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:06:39 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:11:25 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:
Snipped...

When we see Israel and the US setting up a secular/democratic society,
were the vast majority of citizens subject their religious books to
rational criticism and reject the parts that are racist or wrong in some
way, we shouldn't condemn those societies because they still follow
parts of those books, we should congratulate them for making progress
out of the dark ages and do everything we can to help them flourish,
especially when they are surrounded by extremists who want their own
version of the dark ages to return.

Stephen

So, you are going to rewrite three holy books? I don't believe it's
gonna work.

First of all there are at least two versions of the Christian's holy
book and one of them used by a bunch that argues they were appointed
by the founder of the religion and another gang that insists that the
first lot is corrupt.

The Moslems believe that their book is the actual word of God.
Dictated by him/her/it directly to Muhammad.

The Jews believe that certain parts of their book is, again, the
direct word of God, handed down on tablets of stone.

I'm interested, who are you going to get to manage this project?

No need to rewrite. Just do what all denominations do: Offensive
passages are thought of as metaphorical or not actual commandments for
our time (only relevant to the times they were written in). Using this
method you can make the actual words say almost anything you want them
to say.

Stephen

Won't work. Absolutely for the Moslems who believe that, as I said,
the Koran is the actual word of God. The Jews have centuries of study
of The Law and probably won't accept an outsider interfering with
Their Law. The Christians? Well, maybe start a new sect?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

"Larry" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in news:27mdnTc-
reasolutions:

"Larry" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

I think you should tell us again about Hitler's unfinished final
solution...


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Same deflection from the facts....different day....


So, you're not going to remind us? Ok, here you go:

**** you and your goddamned Zionist murderers.

**** the Zionist US government for supporting genocide.

Hitler should have killed them all.



Hitler was just following the instructions in the Talmud.



QED

Take your racist sh*t elsewhere.

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Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:06:39 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:11:25 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:
Snipped...

When we see Israel and the US setting up a secular/democratic society,
were the vast majority of citizens subject their religious books to
rational criticism and reject the parts that are racist or wrong in some
way, we shouldn't condemn those societies because they still follow
parts of those books, we should congratulate them for making progress
out of the dark ages and do everything we can to help them flourish,
especially when they are surrounded by extremists who want their own
version of the dark ages to return.

Stephen
So, you are going to rewrite three holy books? I don't believe it's
gonna work.

First of all there are at least two versions of the Christian's holy
book and one of them used by a bunch that argues they were appointed
by the founder of the religion and another gang that insists that the
first lot is corrupt.

The Moslems believe that their book is the actual word of God.
Dictated by him/her/it directly to Muhammad.

The Jews believe that certain parts of their book is, again, the
direct word of God, handed down on tablets of stone.

I'm interested, who are you going to get to manage this project?
No need to rewrite. Just do what all denominations do: Offensive
passages are thought of as metaphorical or not actual commandments for
our time (only relevant to the times they were written in). Using this
method you can make the actual words say almost anything you want them
to say.

Stephen

Won't work. Absolutely for the Moslems who believe that, as I said,
the Koran is the actual word of God. The Jews have centuries of study
of The Law and probably won't accept an outsider interfering with
Their Law.

You don't get it. There already are numerous Moslem and Jewish
denominations who already do it. The "extremists" take the violent and
aggressive parts seriously, the rest don't, etc. I'm not sure what you
don't understand. Israel itself is not based on the Talmud. They
specifically put rationality above the Talmud.

The Christians? Well, maybe start a new sect?

The Christians have no monopoly on sects. The Shia and Sunnis are both
Muslims and kill each other over their differences about what the Koran
says. Moderate Muslims also live in free societies without clashing with
the laws like extremists do. I'm not sure what you're not getting here.

Stephen

Larry wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:Cegbl.21426
:

When we see Israel and the US setting up a secular/democratic society,
were the vast majority of citizens subject their religious books to
rational criticism and reject the parts that are racist or wrong in
some
way, we shouldn't condemn those societies because they still follow
parts of those books, we should congratulate them for making progress
out of the dark ages and do everything we can to help them flourish,
especially when they are surrounded by extremists who want their own
version of the dark ages to return.

Stephen



I think my ideas are better. America simply EXTRICATES itself from
foreign entanglements and LEAVES EVERYONE ELSE ALONE!


All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

Stephen

On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:35:29 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:06:39 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:11:25 -0800, Stephen Trapani
wrote:
Snipped...

When we see Israel and the US setting up a secular/democratic society,
were the vast majority of citizens subject their religious books to
rational criticism and reject the parts that are racist or wrong in some
way, we shouldn't condemn those societies because they still follow
parts of those books, we should congratulate them for making progress
out of the dark ages and do everything we can to help them flourish,
especially when they are surrounded by extremists who want their own
version of the dark ages to return.

Stephen
So, you are going to rewrite three holy books? I don't believe it's
gonna work.

First of all there are at least two versions of the Christian's holy
book and one of them used by a bunch that argues they were appointed
by the founder of the religion and another gang that insists that the
first lot is corrupt.

The Moslems believe that their book is the actual word of God.
Dictated by him/her/it directly to Muhammad.

The Jews believe that certain parts of their book is, again, the
direct word of God, handed down on tablets of stone.

I'm interested, who are you going to get to manage this project?
No need to rewrite. Just do what all denominations do: Offensive
passages are thought of as metaphorical or not actual commandments for
our time (only relevant to the times they were written in). Using this
method you can make the actual words say almost anything you want them
to say.

Stephen

Won't work. Absolutely for the Moslems who believe that, as I said,
the Koran is the actual word of God. The Jews have centuries of study
of The Law and probably won't accept an outsider interfering with
Their Law.

You don't get it. There already are numerous Moslem and Jewish
denominations who already do it. The "extremists" take the violent and
aggressive parts seriously, the rest don't, etc. I'm not sure what you
don't understand. Israel itself is not based on the Talmud. They
specifically put rationality above the Talmud.

True - the "Modern Jews" and the Orthodox. the problem is the Orthodox
guys are the noisy ones who don't want their interpretation of the Law
changed.

The Christians? Well, maybe start a new sect?

The Christians have no monopoly on sects. The Shia and Sunnis are both
Muslims and kill each other over their differences about what the Koran
says. Moderate Muslims also live in free societies without clashing with
the laws like extremists do. I'm not sure what you're not getting here.

True, but they are all Moslems when it comes time to dealing with the
Infidel. The Shia and Sunnis are divided by who legally inherited
Muhammad's authority not by interpretations of the Koran. Cultural
differences also interact here as the main Sunni grouping is Saudi
Arabian while the Shias are stronger in the old Persian areas. Iraq
is, of course a mixture with the resulting havoc. and of course there
are a number of sub groupings like Wahabis, et al. But he fact remains
that they all believe the Book.

As far as Moslems living among the infidel without clashing with the
law see the recent Dutch legislation emphasizing that Moslems must
obey Dutch laws; the Moslem youth burning cars in France; the Moslem
youths bombing subways in England. I suggest that it isn't a marriage
made in Heaven.



Stephen
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
...
Larry wrote:
Stephen Trapani wrote in news:Cegbl.21426
:

When we see Israel and the US setting up a secular/democratic society,
were the vast majority of citizens subject their religious books to
rational criticism and reject the parts that are racist or wrong in
some
way, we shouldn't condemn those societies because they still follow
parts of those books, we should congratulate them for making progress
out of the dark ages and do everything we can to help them flourish,
especially when they are surrounded by extremists who want their own
version of the dark ages to return.

Stephen



I think my ideas are better. America simply EXTRICATES itself from
foreign entanglements and LEAVES EVERYONE ELSE ALONE!


All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

Stephen


Here here.

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