Wilbur,

Reread the man's post. He isn't a negligent boater though perhaps his kid
is. Your answer to his query was quite rude.

Dave M.

On Dec 28, 6:54 pm, "David L. Martel" wrote:
Wilbur,

Reread the man's post. He isn't a negligent boater though perhaps his kid
is. Your answer to his query was quite rude.

Dave M.

Do any of you know ANYTHING about your boats?

Using a long handled scraper to remove barnacles is a very normal
thing. Go to Lowes or Home Depot and buy a straight edged garden
edger. It looks like a hoe with a straight blade instead of a bent
blade. It can be used to reach your prop from the dock or to reach
under your boat while you stand in shallow water.
Hubbard is an idiot who seems to know nothing about boats. If I dont
get at least 3 years out of my bottom paint I gets ****ed off and I
keep my boat in an extreme fouling area of Florida. All you have to
do is either use your boat a lot or scrub the bottom with a brush a
couple times a year.
You are not likely to puncture your bottom, Jeez, what are you guys
thinking? If your hull is more than 1/4'" thick glass it is waaaaaay
too thick. FG is strong, no reason to overdo it.

On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:06:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Using a long handled scraper to remove barnacles is a very normal
thing. Go to Lowes or Home Depot and buy a straight edged garden
edger. It looks like a hoe with a straight blade instead of a bent
blade.

Also heard them called log peelers and ice chisels. If you round the
corners slightly they won't dig into the gel coat.

Casady

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:06:02 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

said:

Hubbard is an idiot who seems to know nothing about boats.

Aw, c'mon, David. Neal reads lots of boating magazines. Besides, he's an
expert in defending jaywalking cases.


LOL Was he sober?

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"David L. Martel" wrote in message
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Wilbur,

Reread the man's post. He isn't a negligent boater though perhaps his
kid is. Your answer to his query was quite rude.



My intention wasn't to pick on the man, per se. It was to enlighten folks
who happen to share the same lax attitude as to the sorry state of yachtsmen
maintaining their vessels. When a vessel gets to the state where barnacles
are growing all over the bottom and have to be scraped off with a heavy-duty
custom-made scraper it's an indication of a lapse in judgment or a lazy,
negligent attitude. Since when it is rude to attempt to correct gross
misconceptions?

Scraping barnacles can be likened to picking nits out of your hair. The fact
that you are picking nits out of your hair indicates you didn't pay enough
attention to your personal hygiene. Scraping barnacles indicates you didn't
pay enough attention to your boat. You let the horse out of the barn so now
you're gonna keep cleaning the stall in lieu of getting the horse back in?

One should be ashamed to admit this sloth. One should not go seeking advice
about it on Usenet while acting like it is par for the course because it is
NOT par for the course. It is stupid and lubberly.

Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur,

My intention wasn't to pick on the man, per se.

But that's exactly what you did when you wrote, "Here we go again!
Another negligent boater who ask for assistance on a topic that lends
credence to my observation that few sailors have any pride these
days."

You owe the OP an apology for your poorly worded or thoughtless attack on
him. He has not neglected his boat, which seems to be what you accuse him of
doing.

Dave M.

On Dec 28, 9:02 pm, "David L. Martel" wrote:
Wilbur,

My intention wasn't to pick on the man, per se.

But that's exactly what you did when you wrote, "Here we go again!
Another negligent boater who ask for assistance on a topic that lends
credence to my observation that few sailors have any pride these
days."

You owe the OP an apology for your poorly worded or thoughtless attack on
him. He has not neglected his boat, which seems to be what you accuse him of
doing.

Dave M.

I've never seen Hubbard post anything of use to anybody and I doubt he
knows anything about boats. His assertion that only lubbers go more
than a year without hauling is so bizarre and out of touch with
reality, even in the tropics that I doubt he knows anything at all on
the subject.
I keep my boat in an extreme fouling area of Florida and I get 3 years
between hauling although I do scrub the bottom a few times between.
If you use her a lot you minimize fouling too. Several coats of good
hard paint applied well should last AT LEAST two years under extreme
conditions. The prop will need to be cleaned every month.
Using a long handled scraper is very common and the best tool is a
straight bladed garden edger similar to a garden hoe but it has a
straight blade. You can get one at Lowes or Home Depot. It is very
useful for standing in shallow water to reach your keel or for
reaching your prop from the dock.
Where I sail, I often hit bottom due to constantly shifting bars so I
often get patches of my hull with no anti-fouling and this tool has
enough mass that one can easily remove barnacles when this happens.
It has been my experience over several years that anything Hubbard
posts is pure nonsense so you should mostly ignore him except when he
tries to give bad advice.

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:02:13 GMT, "David L. Martel"
wrote:

Wilbur,

My intention wasn't to pick on the man, per se.

But that's exactly what you did when you wrote, "Here we go again!
Another negligent boater who ask for assistance on a topic that lends
credence to my observation that few sailors have any pride these
days."

You owe the OP an apology for your poorly worded or thoughtless attack on
him. He has not neglected his boat, which seems to be what you accuse him of
doing.

Dave M.

But, of course he was lying when he spelled it "wasn't". He actually
meant "was".

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

"David L. Martel" wrote in message
...
Wilbur,

My intention wasn't to pick on the man, per se.

But that's exactly what you did when you wrote, "Here we go again!
Another negligent boater who ask for assistance on a topic that lends
credence to my observation that few sailors have any pride these
days."

You owe the OP an apology for your poorly worded or thoughtless attack
on him. He has not neglected his boat, which seems to be what you accuse
him of doing.


Don't hold your breath . . .

Wilbur Hubbard

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:55:54 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

There is NEVER
any real need to scrape barnacles provided you re-new your anti-fouling
annually.

I recommend that you scrape together enough nickels for a multi-season
paint, Neal.

Your comment proves you are a mere lubber. What does multi-season paint
really mean? It means it MIGHT work for a couple of years provided you haul
out and store your boat for half the year like all typical lubbers. We real
sailors sail our boats the entire year around and the boat is never on the
hard for six or more months at a time.

I don't care how much money you spend for bottom paint, here in the tropics,
where we real sailors live and sail, paint only lasts a year before the
barnacles start to attach themselves and grow. On an ocean voyage (oops,
sorry, I guess you've never done that, huh?) at a certain time of year,
gooseneck barnacles can attach themselves and grow within mere months of
applying new premium bottom paint. Probably even that has-been old chap,
what's his name again?? Oh yah, Bruce at the Bangkok Dock! Even he probably
knows this much as he did manage to make it half way around before he
chickened out because he couldn't handle or afford the overly large pig of a
boat he has and still has because nobody will buy it because it's such a
derelict-looking mess.

Wilbur Hubbard