"Larry" wrote in message
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(Geoff Miller) wrote in
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Does the English city of Bristol have some significance
in yachting with implications of a vessel's being in
first-class condition? If so, what's the story behind
that?



I read the references in the other answers. I doubt anyone in the yacht
sales business knows anything about Bristowe and the history behind the
use of it.

All they know is if you put Bristol in the ad, it sells better. That's
enough for them, even if it's a lie. Being a nebulous term with no real
meaning, it probably can't be used against them at the court hearing,
either.

Plaintiff - "He said it was in Bristol condition!"

Judge - "Bristol? What the hell does that mean??!"

See my point? Case dismissed.


At least one surveyor would agree withi this accessment:

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/SurveyGuide.htm

"Summaries are generally not necessary but can be useful particularly for
sizing up vessels that are in particularly good condition or are otherwise
unique or out of the ordinary. The use of superlatives such as excellent,
A-1, first class or Bristol condition should be avoided unless accompanied
by a description or facts supporting such superlatives. There is no
universal agreement on what these terms mean so that their use should be
justified."

On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:36:46 +0000, Larry wrote:

(Geoff Miller) wrote in
:

Does the English city of Bristol have some significance
in yachting with implications of a vessel's being in
first-class condition? If so, what's the story behind
that?



I read the references in the other answers. I doubt anyone in the yacht
sales business knows anything about Bristowe and the history behind the
use of it.

All they know is if you put Bristol in the ad, it sells better. That's
enough for them, even if it's a lie. Being a nebulous term with no real
meaning, it probably can't be used against them at the court hearing,
either.

Plaintiff - "He said it was in Bristol condition!"

Judge - "Bristol? What the hell does that mean??!"

See my point? Case dismissed.

Undoubtedly true. Look at all the terms used in selling - Grand
Tourismo.... Trawler Yacht.... one could go on and on and on and....
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
news
Undoubtedly true. Look at all the terms used in selling - Grand
Tourismo.... Trawler Yacht.... one could go on and on and on and....
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



Can a Yankee survive on $US925/month in Bangkok, Bruce?

I may have to flee the US after Rahm Emanuel, the Zionist's new president,
takes over my country.

On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:56:14 +0000, Larry wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
news
Undoubtedly true. Look at all the terms used in selling - Grand
Tourismo.... Trawler Yacht.... one could go on and on and on and....
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



Can a Yankee survive on $US925/month in Bangkok, Bruce?

I may have to flee the US after Rahm Emanuel, the Zionist's new president,
takes over my country.

US925 = Baht 31,265 at today's rate.

A Thai with a doctorate in finance working for third or forth largest
bank in Thailand gets a salary of B 30,000/month to start.

A skilled cabinet maker gets 8,000/month plus room and board.

Day workers (unskilled) get between 200 and 350 baht/day worked.

A cheap one room apartment w/bath goes for 2,500/month, lights and
water extra.

The Underground costs are relative to number of stops but probably an
average trip is 12 - 15 baht.

Taxis are 35 baht for 1st Km.

Girls.....Girls.....My wife doesn't allow me to talk with strange
women so I can't comment on today's costs but memories from years ago
indicate that they can be a fairly expensive addition to one's life
style.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
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Girls.....Girls.....My wife doesn't allow me to talk with strange
women so I can't comment on today's costs but memories from years ago
indicate that they can be a fairly expensive addition to one's life
style.
Cheers,



Thanks for the information. Girls in the USA are also high-dollar, high
maintenance items.....like owning an Italian 250' motor yacht and
running the engines a lot.....

In short, I could live quite well on 32K baht/month. My retirement goes
straight to my bank account, which is available anywhere. The more life
costs, here, the more I think it would be better to live elsewhere. I
suppose there's also some socialized medicine available if they found me
unconcious, about the only way to get me into a doctor's office. I am
the child of medical establishment hypocondriacs. Both my parents lived
for their next doctor visit. It's all they talked about since they were
45.

I've lived in a few Middle East countries, the Shah's dictatorship in
Iran, briefly in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia (There's a sign we put up on
the Red Sea that says, "TRACOR BEACH NEXT 5000 KM", to the great
amusement of the Saudi Army guys at the comm center we were working on
at the time. Noone ever walks over your blanket on Tracor Beach, but
the sea snakes make going in the water a little too exciting for my
tastes.

Too bad Iran thinks Americans support what the Zionist American
Government does. I had a great time in Iran, a vast, beautiful land
almost totally unexplored. If they were to cast off the religious
chains currently killing them, I'd go back to Iran in a heartbeat.

I can understand your wife's position.....Thai girls are beautiful!

On Dec 27, 12:05*am, (Geoff Miller) wrote:
For years I've noticed that yachts for sale which are
in very good shape are often described as being in
"Bristol" condition. *Why "Bristol?" *

Does the English city of Bristol have some significance
in yachting with implications of a vessel's being in
first-class condition? *If so, what's the story behind
that?

Geoff

--
"I imagine that anyone having a nooner with Madonna
*would have to occasionally open the door to the
*phone booth to let some fresh air in." -- Strayhorn

way i heard it is the term refers to the condition of ships from the
ship yards of that port. meaning every thing was tight, rigged
correctly, in good repair, all the stuff needed was stowed where it
was ment to be, and ready to sail.

On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 02:05:19 -0600, (Geoff Miller)
wrote:



For years I've noticed that yachts for sale which are
in very good shape are often described as being in
"Bristol" condition. Why "Bristol?"

Does the English city of Bristol have some significance
in yachting with implications of a vessel's being in
first-class condition? If so, what's the story behind
that?



Geoff

Once upon a time....
A ridiculously small country enforced its control on most countries
of any size in the world. It used its Navy for this specific purpose.
When the cry went out: "Send a gunboat" the ship likely departed from
Bristol, which was an important Admiralty center. The shipbuilders at
Bristol were influenced by the Admiralty to provide excellent ships
and equipment. Bristol was part of the South-west which had something
of a culture of excellence: as an example, the Great Western Railway
had semaphore signals which did not dip to pass traffic, but ROSE, so
that any failure along the wire/rod transmission would result in a
semaphore failing to the Stop position. They went on to utilize
automatic train control, etc., etc.

BrianW

"Geoff Miller" wrote in message
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For years I've noticed that yachts for sale which are
in very good shape are often described as being in
"Bristol" condition. Why "Bristol?"

Does the English city of Bristol have some significance
in yachting with implications of a vessel's being in
first-class condition? If so, what's the story behind
that?



Geoff,

First off allow me to apologize for all the uninformed guesses as to the
origin of the term "Bristol fashion."

It's got nothing to do with anything so far suggested. Believe it or not it
has to do with woman's breasts.

http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/b.htm scroll down to "bristols"

Ship shape and bristol fashion refers to a ship at anchor or docked that is
all stowed away and battened down as it should be like breasts in a properly
tied corset.

http://i2.iofferphoto.com/img/115000...12444281/1.jpg

Note the similarity to many classic figureheads.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:11:05 -0500, WaIIy wrote:

Your posts are full of baba, but kind of fun to read.

Good grief, don't encourage him.

Has anyone actually laid eyes on WH's pitiful craft?
No breasts, no corsets and sure as hell not "Bristol Fashion".
How funny that he aimlessly wanders the docks seeking anything
to either dream about or, in desparation, criticize.
Sad, so sad.............NOT!!!