Which would you prefer of the three places?

This is for a family of four, my girls are 10 and 7. Our Rhodes 32
draws 4.5 feet.

Which area costs less to travel/vacation in?

Thanks again...
Christian

"S/V Sea Dog, Rhodes 32" wrote in
:

Which area costs less to travel/vacation in?


Anywhere offshore. Great views, great
swimming/fishing/sunsets/sunrises. Watch the stars all night without
the light pollution from the cities. Right after sunset, as the ion
light fades in the West, lay and look up and see how many satellites you
can spot still in the sunshine up there making them really stand out as
they whiz by on a moonless night.

Offshore in the Great Lakes, away from the shipping lanes, would be
almost as good, except for the freezing temperatures. Offshore of Grand
Cayman raises the temperature and lowers your heating bills,
substantially. The fishing's better, too, lowering the family food
bills a lot if they'll eat fresh seafood.

Why would anyone want to sail to a CITY? That's crazy! All that noise
and stink and rot and crime....

Pick a nice slot of good weather, sail offshore 50 miles and just float
around, going ashore only until the next front passes so you can go back
out, again.

And don't forget to let those girls SAIL THE BOAT!.....

On Dec 5, 8:01*pm, Larry wrote:
"S/V Sea Dog, Rhodes 32" wrote :

Which area costs less to travel/vacation in?

Anywhere offshore. *Great views, great
swimming/fishing/sunsets/sunrises. *Watch the stars all night without
the light pollution from the cities. *Right after sunset, as the ion
light fades in the West, lay and look up and see how many satellites you
can spot still in the sunshine up there making them really stand out as
they whiz by on a moonless night.

Offshore in the Great Lakes, away from the shipping lanes, would be
almost as good, except for the freezing temperatures. *Offshore of Grand
Cayman raises the temperature and lowers your heating bills,
substantially. *The fishing's better, too, lowering the family food
bills a lot if they'll eat fresh seafood.

Why would anyone want to sail to a CITY? *That's crazy! *All that noise
and stink and rot and crime....

Pick a nice slot of good weather, sail offshore 50 miles and just float
around, going ashore only until the next front passes so you can go back
out, again.

And don't forget to let those girls SAIL THE BOAT!.....

Our Apostle Islands (22 islands) home cruising grounds is a wilderness
area in places 50 miles from the largest town of 1800 people...We love
the natural places to be sure, we're just looking for something new
with the kids and we can spend the whole summer on the boat and we
want to try something new. We will probably only come to appreciate
the Apostle's even more - but trying to get ideas for a place to
travel too and enjoy this summer - leaving from the westernmost end of
Lake Superior.

Thanks for your comments,
Christian

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:45:19 -0500, Gogarty
wrote:

Larry to the contrary notwithstanding, for one summer, New York City.
See my previous post. Just consider the several bodies of water you can
explore in a few days, always to come back to your slip. All of Long
Island Sound. South Shore of Long Island with Great South Bay and Fire
Island of legend. New York Harbor itself, a great day sail with country
cosuins. Raritan Bay, Sandy Hook and Sandy Hook National Poark withg
its (blush) Federally-sanctioned nude beach Up thre Hudosn Rive, but I
presume woyu would arive in this area by coming down the Hudson River.
Another thought is the chance to sail in the open sea out past Ambrose
and experience the very different mode of sea behavior from that in any
enclosed body of water. Then you can come ashore at your slip, take in a
ball game, go to the tennis courts, ride into town to all the theaters,
museums, etc., etc. Not to foret the fireworks on the Fourth in the East
River. Etc.

All that and more. Cruising Long Island Sound, Peconic Bay, Block
Island, Martha's Vineyard, Nantucket, Buzzard's Bay and the Elizabeth
Islands will keep you busy and entertained for most of the summer. It
will also give you an opportunity to control your costs by anchoring
out much of the time. As a bonus you get to cruise the Hudson River
twice.

On Dec 6, 12:53*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:45:19 -0500, Gogarty
wrote:

Larry to the contrary notwithstanding, for one summer, New York City.
See my previous post. Just consider the several bodies of water you can
explore in a few days, always to come back to your slip. All of Long
Island Sound. South Shore of Long Island with Great South Bay and Fire
Island of legend. New York Harbor itself, a great day sail with country
cosuins. Raritan Bay, Sandy Hook and Sandy Hook National Poark withg
its (blush) Federally-sanctioned nude beach Up thre Hudosn Rive, but I
presume woyu would arive in this area by coming down the Hudson River.
Another thought is the chance to sail in the open sea out past Ambrose
and experience the very different mode of sea behavior from that in any
enclosed body of water. Then you can come ashore at your slip, take in a
ball game, go to the tennis courts, ride into town to all the theaters,
museums, etc., etc. Not to foret the fireworks on the Fourth in the East
River. Etc.

All that and more. * Cruising Long Island Sound, Peconic Bay, Block
Island, Martha's Vineyard, Nantucket, Buzzard's Bay and the Elizabeth
Islands will keep you busy and entertained for most of the summer. *It
will also give you an opportunity to control your costs by anchoring
out much of the time. *As a bonus you get to cruise the Hudson River
twice.

Why twice, are you thinking we would sail back to Western Lake
Superior the same season?

Our hope is to winter on the east coast, this should be possible huh?

Christian

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:17:32 -0800 (PST), "S/V Sea Dog, Rhodes 32"
wrote:

Why twice, are you thinking we would sail back to Western Lake
Superior the same season?


Yes.

Our hope is to winter on the east coast, this should be possible huh?

OK, absolutely doable. You'd have the whole summer to find a
boatyard, lot's of choices on Long Island Sound.

Gogarty wrote in news:20081206-174519.558.0
@Gogarty.news.bway.net:

Larry to the contrary notwithstanding, for one summer, New York City.
See my previous post. Just consider the several bodies of water you
can
explore in a few days, always to come back to your slip. All of Long
Island Sound. South Shore of Long Island with Great South Bay and Fire
Island of legend. New York Harbor itself, a great day sail with
country
cosuins. Raritan Bay, Sandy Hook and Sandy Hook National Poark withg
its (blush) Federally-sanctioned nude beach Up thre Hudosn Rive, but I
presume woyu would arive in this area by coming down the Hudson River.
Another thought is the chance to sail in the open sea out past Ambrose
and experience the very different mode of sea behavior from that in
any
enclosed body of water. Then you can come ashore at your slip, take in
a
ball game, go to the tennis courts, ride into town to all the
theaters,
museums, etc., etc. Not to foret the fireworks on the Fourth in the
East
River. Etc.



The whole time I was sailing those waters, I'd be watching for body
parts...(c;]

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=
9C04EEDC163FF93BA35756C0A9659C8B63

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...d-body-floats-
to-the-surface/

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/.../08/obit.gray/

http://www.columbiaspectator.com/node/51562

Not to mention:
http://gothamist.com/2006/02/08/east_river_got.php

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=
9805EEDB1F3AE633A25752C2A9629C946296D6CF

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract

It's like sailing in a sewer!

On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:47:54 +0000, Larry wrote:

It's like sailing in a sewer!


Nonsense

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:17:32 -0800 (PST), in message

"S/V Sea Dog, Rhodes 32" wrote:

Why twice, are you thinking we would sail back to Western Lake
Superior the same season?

Our hope is to winter on the east coast, this should be possible huh?

You can spend a good, long, enjoyable time just getting down to this
part of the world from up there. If it's an option you might save the
urban tourism for after Labour Day when Canadian schools are back in
and the crowds are thinner. As an added bonus the temperatures are a
little lower.

Toronto and Montreal are both great cities, but neither has great
sailing. The west end of Lake Ontario tends to light winds and
featureless coastline. The east end provides more interest and more
wind on both the north and south shores and the Thousand Islands are
right there.

If it was me, I'd aim to be in Oswego in September on the way to NYC
and points south where the winter will be bearable. Don't even think
of liveaboard in Toronto or Montreal in the winter unless you would
like to liveaboard at home. It was -18C outside my window last night
here in Kingston.

Ryk