On Dec 2, 2:55 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 2, 2:17 pm, Two meter troll wrote:



On Dec 1, 8:33 pm, Frogwatch wrote:

On Dec 1, 10:56 pm, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:53:46 GMT, "Janet O'Leary"

wrote:
I am working while doing the planning so you know how that goes..

Work is the curse of the sailing class.

IN this case, I do not care if she is a Neal sockpuppet because it has
been interesting revealing a great diff in sailing philosophy amongst
us. Some of us think the mentioned boat can be brought up to good
cruising abilities for little, others think it will take a lot of
money. The interesting thing to me is that the difference in opinion
exists. Is it possible that both are right but each has different
expectations about cruising? In my case, I take a minimalist approach
in which I emphasize doing things very simple but doing them
nevertheless. Others are very detail oriented and dot every "i" and
cross every "t" etc. so it costs them a lot more but they do not feel
good otherwise. Neither side is completely correct except for what
matters most to them.

for my part i do most of the fix and repair myself; so some costs are
not as evident as others. I dont figure time fixing the boat as some
loss of income; to me every fix makes it so i have another tool to use
on other boats which in the long term makes me money. making equipment
is the same, any that i make improves my skill, removes the great cost
that production gear has, and over the long term lessins the cost of
boat upkeep; it also makes me money cause folks that see a hand turned/
built block that works well and lasts ask me to make more and pay the
price for my work. sea bags, ditty bags, buckets, worked sail covers,
etc. keep my hands buisy at sea on one boat or another and then make a
profit when i get to shore and sell them.

for me an old boat is a way to make bank later.

I admit, I have poor luck with gadgets so I tend to use whatever old
and simple way worked before the gadget became available. I suppose
this is why I still use paper charts and my old hand bearing compass.
Maybe I just expect gadgets to take the kind of abuse my older less
gadgety stuff does. As someone pointed out, my acceptance of my old
boat is probably because it is far more comfy than my old caving
obsession even if has no amenities. I really do think that equipment
should stand up to severe abuse, otherwise it is likely to fail when
you really need it.

B'sides, it isnt an adventure if it isnt a little uncomfortable.