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Tom Shilson
 
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What does the ABYC have to say about the connection from the tank to the
stove?

Tom
of the Swee****er Sea

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A-1.9 FUEL LINES
A-1.9.1 As installed, the fuel supply line system and
its components shall be compatible with LPG, and shall
withstand the stresses and exposure of the marine
environment.
A-1.9.2 LPG fuel supply line shall comply with the
construction, performance, manufacturing and test, and
marking requirements of UL 21, LP Gas Hose, or
A-1.9.2.1 be corrosion resistant metallic tubing such
as annealed copper tubing, standard type, Grade K or L,
conforming to ASTM B88-75a, Specifications for
Seamless Copper Water Tube, with a wall thickness of not
less than 0.032 inches (0.815 mm).
A-1.9.3 Flexible LPG supply line shall be equipped
with permanently attached end fittings, such as a swaged
sleeve or sleeve and threaded insert.
A-1.9.4 Metal tubing shall be connected by means of
flare fittings.
NOTE: “Long nut” flare fittings should be used. The
short nut type fitting used in refrigeration systems can
precipitate fatigue failure due to vibration.
A-1.9.5 Fuel Line Location and Installation
A-1.9.5.1 Fuel supply lines shall be protected from
physical damage, and
A-1.9.5.1.1 shall be accessible for inspection.
A-1.9.5.2 A flexible LPG fuel line section shall be
used to allow free swing of gimbaled stoves.
A-1.9.5.3 Fuel supply lines shall be supported by clips
or straps or other suitable means such as conduit or tray to
prevent vibration damage, and

(Clip a bunch about compatable supports and passthroughs)

A-1.9.5.6 Fuel supply lines shall be continuous lengths
of tubing, piping, or hose from the regulating device,
solenoid valve, or leak detector to the appliance, or to the
flexible section at the appliance.
A-1.9.5.7 LPG fuel supply lines shall not be used for
an electrical ground.

Tom Shilson wrote:
What does the ABYC have to say about the connection from the tank to the
stove?

Tom
of the Swee****er Sea


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Glenn Ashmore wrote:

A-1.9 FUEL LINES
snip
A-1.9.2.1 be corrosion resistant metallic tubing such
as annealed copper tubing, standard type, Grade K or L,
conforming to ASTM B88-75a, Specifications for
Seamless Copper Water Tube, with a wall thickness of not
less than 0.032 inches (0.815 mm).

snip


Well, I asked, but I got a bit more than I bargined for. :-)

I am surprised that copper tube is authorized, but I see that it is. It
must be protected against vibration, though. There are things that I
don't understand, like the short and long connectors. I don't have
copper tube, so it doesn't matter to me for now.

Back to the original point, since ABYC specifically allows copper, I
would not yank it out. Prudent seamanship would require that it be
checked for leaks regualarly. How regularly depends on conditions and
is left as an exercise for the student.

Tom
of the Swee****er Sea

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Glenn Ashmore
 
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A short neck flare fitting is the kind you find at the hardware store.
They slope inwards at about a 45º over a distance of less than a tube
diameter. A long neck has a slow curved slope that extends out about 3
tube diameters. It gives more support to the flair.

Tom Shilson wrote:
Glenn Ashmore wrote:

A-1.9 FUEL LINES
snip
A-1.9.2.1 be corrosion resistant metallic tubing such
as annealed copper tubing, standard type, Grade K or L,
conforming to ASTM B88-75a, Specifications for
Seamless Copper Water Tube, with a wall thickness of not
less than 0.032 inches (0.815 mm).


snip



Well, I asked, but I got a bit more than I bargined for. :-)

I am surprised that copper tube is authorized, but I see that it is. It
must be protected against vibration, though. There are things that I
don't understand, like the short and long connectors. I don't have
copper tube, so it doesn't matter to me for now.

Back to the original point, since ABYC specifically allows copper, I
would not yank it out. Prudent seamanship would require that it be
checked for leaks regualarly. How regularly depends on conditions and
is left as an exercise for the student.

Tom
of the Swee****er Sea


--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

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You yank it out when your surveyor says so and puts in
on the "Required" list.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Tom Shilson" wrote in message
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Glenn Ashmore wrote:

A-1.9 FUEL LINES
snip
A-1.9.2.1 be corrosion resistant metallic tubing such
as annealed copper tubing, standard type, Grade K or L,
conforming to ASTM B88-75a, Specifications for
Seamless Copper Water Tube, with a wall thickness of not
less than 0.032 inches (0.815 mm).

snip


Well, I asked, but I got a bit more than I bargined for. :-)

I am surprised that copper tube is authorized, but I see that it is. It
must be protected against vibration, though. There are things that I
don't understand, like the short and long connectors. I don't have
copper tube, so it doesn't matter to me for now.

Back to the original point, since ABYC specifically allows copper, I
would not yank it out. Prudent seamanship would require that it be
checked for leaks regualarly. How regularly depends on conditions and
is left as an exercise for the student.

Tom
of the Swee****er Sea





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Glenn Ashmore wrote in
news:HL4qc.32230$Lm3.19075@lakeread04:

A-1.9 FUEL LINES


Loose translation - Use whatever's cheapest to save our boat manufacturer
members from building costs......

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