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King Starboard for backing plate material .. under stanchion bases question
Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck, the
backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the bases a bit more support. I came across the material Starboard. It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot. What about compression? Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my stanchion bases? |
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King Starboard for backing plate material .. under stanchion bases question
I saw this new material. Some sailboat builders are using it for making
hatch doors. For sure Starboard material is much better than plywood and If would be a fair alternative to Aluminums. The last time I have inquired about it I had to purchase a complete sheet and the thickness was about 3/8" thick Personally, SS flat bar stock is not all that expensive and it would be far more superior than Startboard. SS flat bar come in different thickness and width. The last time I bought some at the Metal Supermarket they cut the flat bar into squares for me. All I had to do was to bore the holes and deburr the edges. The back up plate is only as strong as your deck. Some deck have a plywood core. After x amount of years if the deck fittings have not been re-bedded and the deck properly sealed water may have infiltrated the plywood. "NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:AtGkh.6939$9H4.4798@trndny07... Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck, the backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the bases a bit more support. I came across the material Starboard. It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot. What about compression? Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my stanchion bases? |
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King Starboard for backing plate material .. under stanchionbases question
NE Sailboat wrote:
Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck, the backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the bases a bit more support. I came across the material Starboard. It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot. What about compression? Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my stanchion bases? It would have to be bolted. (even epoxy wouldn't stick very well) I'm doing the same thing for two of my stanchions. But I'm planning to use either plywood or a hard wood block glassed into the under deck. |
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King Starboard for backing plate material .. under stanchion bases question
I'd prefer 1/4" aluminum plate or maybe even 1/4" G-10 glass-epoxy laminate.
"NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:AtGkh.6939$9H4.4798@trndny07... Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck, the backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the bases a bit more support. I came across the material Starboard. It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot. What about compression? Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my stanchion bases? |
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King Starboard for backing plate material .. under stanchionbases question
NE Sailboat wrote:
Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck, the backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the bases a bit more support. I came across the material Starboard. It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot. What about compression? Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my stanchion bases? Well you cant paint it and glueing it is 'not reccomended' so how do you propose to bond it in place? It also seems to be rather soft. If you dont want to go for metal backing plated, you might consider Tufnol 10G/40. Its an epoxy/glass cloth material available in sheets up to 3.5" thick. Wont rot, no problems bonding it but its *NOT* going to be cheap. 1/2" with the edges tapered over a minimum distance of 5 times the thickness to avoid hard points and stress cracks round the backing plate, glassed into place, would be some pretty serious overkill. OTOH, you could just use marine ply and seal it properly. West Systems have a guide to hardware bonding and if you follow it so the backing plate INCLUDING the holes is epoxy encapsulated, it should last longer than the rest of the boat. -- Ian Malcolm. London, ENGLAND. (NEWSGROUP REPLY PREFERRED) ianm[at]the[dash]malcolms[dot]freeserve[dot]co[dot]uk [at]=@, [dash]=- & [dot]=. *Warning* HTML & 32K emails -- NUL: 'Stingo' Albacore #1554 - 15' Early 60's, Uffa Fox designed, All varnished hot moulded wooden racing dinghy. |
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King Starboard for backing plate material .. under stanchion bases question
I am near Dover, NH .. I never heard of Metal Supermarket .. What is that?
Where? If I call someone, but who, maybe I can get them to cut the SS flat to the same size as the original piece of fiberglass. Then, sand the edge, drill holes, bolt,etc . . . . . makes sense. Could you give me a head's up on where to go and get a small flat piece of SS and have it cut to size? -- wrote in message ... I saw this new material. Some sailboat builders are using it for making hatch doors. For sure Starboard material is much better than plywood and If would be a fair alternative to Aluminums. The last time I have inquired about it I had to purchase a complete sheet and the thickness was about 3/8" thick Personally, SS flat bar stock is not all that expensive and it would be far more superior than Startboard. SS flat bar come in different thickness and width. The last time I bought some at the Metal Supermarket they cut the flat bar into squares for me. All I had to do was to bore the holes and deburr the edges. The back up plate is only as strong as your deck. Some deck have a plywood core. After x amount of years if the deck fittings have not been re-bedded and the deck properly sealed water may have infiltrated the plywood. "NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:AtGkh.6939$9H4.4798@trndny07... Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck, the backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the bases a bit more support. I came across the material Starboard. It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot. What about compression? Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my stanchion bases? |
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King Starboard for backing plate material .. under stanchion bases question
The most common solution here ia 1/4" aluminum. It's lighter, less
expensive, stiffer, and easier to cut & drill than 1/8" stainless would be. "NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:ghOkh.10659$6Z5.1703@trndny01... I am near Dover, NH .. I never heard of Metal Supermarket .. What is that? Where? If I call someone, but who, maybe I can get them to cut the SS flat to the same size as the original piece of fiberglass. Then, sand the edge, drill holes, bolt,etc . . . . . makes sense. Could you give me a head's up on where to go and get a small flat piece of SS and have it cut to size? -- wrote in message ... I saw this new material. Some sailboat builders are using it for making hatch doors. For sure Starboard material is much better than plywood and If would be a fair alternative to Aluminums. The last time I have inquired about it I had to purchase a complete sheet and the thickness was about 3/8" thick Personally, SS flat bar stock is not all that expensive and it would be far more superior than Startboard. SS flat bar come in different thickness and width. The last time I bought some at the Metal Supermarket they cut the flat bar into squares for me. All I had to do was to bore the holes and deburr the edges. The back up plate is only as strong as your deck. Some deck have a plywood core. After x amount of years if the deck fittings have not been re-bedded and the deck properly sealed water may have infiltrated the plywood. "NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:AtGkh.6939$9H4.4798@trndny07... Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck, the backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the bases a bit more support. I came across the material Starboard. It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot. What about compression? Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my stanchion bases? |
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King Starboard for backing plate material .. under stanchion bases question
You can get brass in any junk yard. Cutting is easy, drilling is easy. I
know, it will not stand up to being submerged in sea water..... If your stantion bases are that wet, you need more than new backup plates. DAve in Maine |
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King Starboard for backing plate material .. under stanchion bases question
Dave ,, I got a couple of numbers of sheet metal shops in the Dover area. I
will give them a call. The aluminum idea seems like a plan. Light, easy to drill, will provide strength. If I can get the metal shop to cut it to the right size ?? They should do that, I would think. =============== "Dave W" wrote in message ... You can get brass in any junk yard. Cutting is easy, drilling is easy. I know, it will not stand up to being submerged in sea water..... If your stantion bases are that wet, you need more than new backup plates. DAve in Maine |
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King Starboard for backing plate material .. under stanchionbases question
NE Sailboat wrote:
Dave ,, I got a couple of numbers of sheet metal shops in the Dover area. I will give them a call. The aluminum idea seems like a plan. Light, easy to drill, will provide strength. If I can get the metal shop to cut it to the right size ?? They should do that, I would think. =============== "Dave W" wrote in message ... You can get brass in any junk yard. Cutting is easy, drilling is easy. I know, it will not stand up to being submerged in sea water..... If your stantion bases are that wet, you need more than new backup plates. DAve in Maine or go to WallyWorld and buy a plastic kitchen cutting board cut and drill to size. g |
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