Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck, the
backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the bases a bit
more support. I came across the material Starboard.

It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot. What
about compression?

Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my
stanchion bases?

I saw this new material. Some sailboat builders are using it for making
hatch doors.
For sure Starboard material is much better than plywood and If would be a
fair alternative to Aluminums.
The last time I have inquired about it I had to purchase a complete sheet
and the thickness was about 3/8" thick
Personally, SS flat bar stock is not all that expensive and it would be far
more superior than Startboard.
SS flat bar come in different thickness and width. The last time I bought
some at the Metal Supermarket
they cut the flat bar into squares for me. All I had to do was to bore the
holes and deburr the edges.
The back up plate is only as strong as your deck. Some deck have a plywood
core. After x amount of years if the deck fittings have not been re-bedded
and the deck properly sealed water may have infiltrated the plywood.


"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
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Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck,
the backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the bases
a bit more support. I came across the material Starboard.

It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot. What
about compression?

Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my
stanchion bases?

I am near Dover, NH .. I never heard of Metal Supermarket .. What is that?
Where?

If I call someone, but who, maybe I can get them to cut the SS flat to the
same size as the original piece of fiberglass.
Then, sand the edge, drill holes, bolt,etc . . . . . makes sense.

Could you give me a head's up on where to go and get a small flat piece of
SS and have it cut to size?

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I saw this new material. Some sailboat builders are using it for making
hatch doors.
For sure Starboard material is much better than plywood and If would be a
fair alternative to Aluminums.
The last time I have inquired about it I had to purchase a complete sheet
and the thickness was about 3/8" thick
Personally, SS flat bar stock is not all that expensive and it would be
far more superior than Startboard.
SS flat bar come in different thickness and width. The last time I bought
some at the Metal Supermarket
they cut the flat bar into squares for me. All I had to do was to bore
the holes and deburr the edges.
The back up plate is only as strong as your deck. Some deck have a
plywood core. After x amount of years if the deck fittings have not been
re-bedded and the deck properly sealed water may have infiltrated the
plywood.


"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
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Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck,
the backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the
bases a bit more support. I came across the material Starboard.

It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot. What
about compression?

Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my
stanchion bases?

The most common solution here ia 1/4" aluminum. It's lighter, less
expensive, stiffer, and easier to cut & drill than 1/8" stainless would be.

"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
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I am near Dover, NH .. I never heard of Metal Supermarket .. What is
that?
Where?

If I call someone, but who, maybe I can get them to cut the SS flat to the
same size as the original piece of fiberglass.
Then, sand the edge, drill holes, bolt,etc . . . . . makes sense.

Could you give me a head's up on where to go and get a small flat piece of
SS and have it cut to size?

--
wrote in message
...
I saw this new material. Some sailboat builders are using it for making
hatch doors.
For sure Starboard material is much better than plywood and If would be
a
fair alternative to Aluminums.
The last time I have inquired about it I had to purchase a complete
sheet
and the thickness was about 3/8" thick
Personally, SS flat bar stock is not all that expensive and it would be
far more superior than Startboard.
SS flat bar come in different thickness and width. The last time I
bought
some at the Metal Supermarket
they cut the flat bar into squares for me. All I had to do was to bore
the holes and deburr the edges.
The back up plate is only as strong as your deck. Some deck have a
plywood core. After x amount of years if the deck fittings have not
been
re-bedded and the deck properly sealed water may have infiltrated the
plywood.


"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:AtGkh.6939$9H4.4798@trndny07...
Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck,
the backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the
bases a bit more support. I came across the material Starboard.

It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot.
What
about compression?

Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my
stanchion bases?

NE Sailboat wrote:
Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck, the
backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the bases a bit
more support. I came across the material Starboard.

It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot. What
about compression?

Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my
stanchion bases?


It would have to be bolted.
(even epoxy wouldn't stick very well)


I'm doing the same thing for two of my stanchions.

But I'm planning to use either plywood or a hard wood block
glassed into the under deck.

Cave .. Sheep .. I did a search on the net. Cruising World had an old
article that popped up. Said to use Aluminum, Stainless or Marine Ply.


Casey ,, said to use solid block.

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NE Sailboat wrote:
Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck,
the backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the
bases a bit more support. I came across the material Starboard.

It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot. What
about compression?

Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my
stanchion bases?
It would have to be bolted.
(even epoxy wouldn't stick very well)


I'm doing the same thing for two of my stanchions.

But I'm planning to use either plywood or a hard wood block
glassed into the under deck.

I'd prefer 1/4" aluminum plate or maybe even 1/4" G-10 glass-epoxy laminate.


"NE Sailboat" wrote in message
news:AtGkh.6939$9H4.4798@trndny07...
Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck,
the
backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the bases a
bit
more support. I came across the material Starboard.

It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot. What
about compression?

Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my
stanchion bases?

NE Sailboat wrote:

Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the deck, the
backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give the bases a bit
more support. I came across the material Starboard.

It says that I can cut it just like wood, but that it does not rot. What
about compression?

Could I use some small pieces of this as backing plate material for my
stanchion bases?


Well you cant paint it and glueing it is 'not reccomended' so how do you
propose to bond it in place? It also seems to be rather soft.

If you dont want to go for metal backing plated, you might consider
Tufnol 10G/40. Its an epoxy/glass cloth material available in sheets up
to 3.5" thick. Wont rot, no problems bonding it but its *NOT* going to
be cheap. 1/2" with the edges tapered over a minimum distance of 5 times
the thickness to avoid hard points and stress cracks round the backing
plate, glassed into place, would be some pretty serious overkill.

OTOH, you could just use marine ply and seal it properly. West Systems
have a guide to hardware bonding and if you follow it so the backing
plate INCLUDING the holes is epoxy encapsulated, it should last longer
than the rest of the boat.

--
Ian Malcolm. London, ENGLAND. (NEWSGROUP REPLY PREFERRED)
ianm[at]the[dash]malcolms[dot]freeserve[dot]co[dot]uk
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'Stingo' Albacore #1554 - 15' Early 60's, Uffa Fox designed,
All varnished hot moulded wooden racing dinghy.

NE Sailboat wrote:

Planning for spring. I will rebed my stanchion bases. Under the
deck, the backing is a thin piece of fiberglass. I would like to give
the bases a bit more support. I came across the material Starboard.
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NOT!!!!

These days even scrap metal prices have skyrocketed.

Brass is a NO-NO around salt water, aluminum is marginal, S/S would be
a good choice, but a total PITA to machine.

My choice would be epoxy/knitted glass.

Get a couple of yards of double bias, knitted glass, say 17 or 24 OZ.

Lay up about 4-5 layers on a plastic covered sheet of plywood.

(This will provide a panel that has at least 68 OZ of glass, will be a
minimum of about 3/16" thick, and probably stronger than the rest of
your boat.)

When cured, cut pieces to size with a saber saw, then drill as required.

Bed these pieces of glass to the underside of the deck with fairing
putty (Epoxy/micro-balloons) using the stanchion fasteners, just
snugged, to locate and hold ass'y till cured.

Give it a week to cure.

When they grind the boat up for the land fill, those pads will still
be doing their job.

Lew

If you're up to some simple glass work, this is the very best way to do
this. Not costly, either.


"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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SNIP
My choice would be epoxy/knitted glass.

Get a couple of yards of double bias, knitted glass, say 17 or 24 OZ.

Lay up about 4-5 layers on a plastic covered sheet of plywood.

(This will provide a panel that has at least 68 OZ of glass, will be a
minimum of about 3/16" thick, and probably stronger than the rest of
your boat.)

When cured, cut pieces to size with a saber saw, then drill as required.

Bed these pieces of glass to the underside of the deck with fairing
putty (Epoxy/micro-balloons) using the stanchion fasteners, just
snugged, to locate and hold ass'y till cured.

Give it a week to cure.

When they grind the boat up for the land fill, those pads will still
be doing their job.

Lew