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Hi Brian D:
We might be neighbors? Lets see if my detective skills are keen enough to figure out where you live. Brian D wrote: Well, I've been here for 46 years now and I've yet to see a 2x4-stacked house. I've seen several lodgepole type cabins in the woods though, mostly dating back to the '20s Lodgepole........ that rules out everything north of Grants Pass and west of the Cascades. when a few people were wishing they could find gold here. Gold country............. maybe NE Oregon area Baker, La Grande, Wallowa, Halfway?? Or maybe Soputhern Oregon area Gold Hill, Jacksonville, Ashland, Rougue River? So Brian D, hows my detective skills? Am I sorta close on any of my guesses? Bob |
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I shouldn't have used the term "lodgepole" because that's a pine ...no pine
around here, but plenty of skinny fir, hem, and spruce up in them thar hills. The miner's cabins that I spoke of were off roads FR-2209 and FR-2207, which in turn are off the road that goes to the Opal Creek area (forgot the name ...but near Mehama), which turns off of Hwy 22 east of Salem. I live in Albany but grew up around here and those woods up there are my old stompin' grounds. I've worn out a lot of springs driving up and down those roads... Brian D "Bob" wrote in message ups.com... Hi Brian D: We might be neighbors? Lets see if my detective skills are keen enough to figure out where you live. Brian D wrote: Well, I've been here for 46 years now and I've yet to see a 2x4-stacked house. I've seen several lodgepole type cabins in the woods though, mostly dating back to the '20s Lodgepole........ that rules out everything north of Grants Pass and west of the Cascades. when a few people were wishing they could find gold here. Gold country............. maybe NE Oregon area Baker, La Grande, Wallowa, Halfway?? Or maybe Soputhern Oregon area Gold Hill, Jacksonville, Ashland, Rougue River? So Brian D, hows my detective skills? Am I sorta close on any of my guesses? Bob |
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Brian D wrote: I shouldn't have used the term "lodgepole" because that's a pine ...no pine around here, but plenty of skinny fir, hem, and spruce up in them thar hills. The miner's cabins that I spoke of were off roads FR-2209 and FR-2207, which in turn are off the road that goes to the Opal Creek area (forgot the name ...but near Mehama), which turns off of Hwy 22 east of Salem. I live in Albany but grew up around here and those woods up there are my old stompin' grounds. I've worn out a lot of springs driving up and down those roads... Brian D Hi Brian: I know that area reasonable good. East of Salem/Albany is beautiful up against the hills. I grew up in Newport. We haed a family friend that drove a log truck all over that area in the 60s and early 70s. For fun Somtimes I would ride around with him in the summer. In fact, have some frinds that run the restraunt at the Stayton golf course. Small world. I was really sad to see the the old T&R truck stop turned into a porn shop.What a waste. Does ALbany still have that Timber Festaval? I ahven't heard much about it in years. About those 2x4 built houses. I'm surprised you did n't run in to one over there what with all the stud mills that were in that area.Maybe that missing village idiot I hear about made his way to Newport and started building 2x4 houses? So are you building a boat? Bob |
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Yeah ...we spend a lot of time in the hills, hiking and camping and boating (and fishing for Kokes). Albany has gone downhill in a couple of ways I think. It's had a heckuva meth problem but they're cracking down on that. Now my (nurse) wife tells me the OD from heroin instead and have a lower chance of survival. The T&R is gone. The Worldwide Timer Carnival is gone ...a real loss too. They said that it didn't generate enough revenue, so they shut it down for good. I don't get that at all, because tickets weren't cheap and the place was ALWAYS packed ...best 4th of July fireworks display around, and lots of fun things to watch at the show. Saw 2 guys racing through a log with V8-powered chainsaws last time (do a web search). Lots of fun. I asked my Dad about those 2x4 houses since he was born and raised around here as well. He knew all about them. He said that they were built from low-grade wood that had knots in it, odds & ends that weren't long enough for other uses, and that kind of thing. He said it worked just fine except that running wires and plumbing was more difficult. I've probably seen one and just didn't know it. Depoe Bay Wooden Boat show this weekend. We're just having breakfast and heading over. I've got a friend who's launching a B&B Yacht Designs Coresound-20 for the first time today and will be christening her ...won't tell us the name ;-). It's a nice boat and he said it was a great pleasure working with Graham and Carla at B&B. Good folks. I'm working on about boat #4 or #5 (can't recall) right now: http://www.glacierboats.com/tongass . The web site is way out of date but nobody knows ...they can't see inside my shop! I'm getting ready to paint the hull and am about 1/3rd done with the cuddy/house. Brian D "Bob" wrote in message oups.com... Brian D wrote: I shouldn't have used the term "lodgepole" because that's a pine ...no pine around here, but plenty of skinny fir, hem, and spruce up in them thar hills. The miner's cabins that I spoke of were off roads FR-2209 and FR-2207, which in turn are off the road that goes to the Opal Creek area (forgot the name ...but near Mehama), which turns off of Hwy 22 east of Salem. I live in Albany but grew up around here and those woods up there are my old stompin' grounds. I've worn out a lot of springs driving up and down those roads... Brian D Hi Brian: I know that area reasonable good. East of Salem/Albany is beautiful up against the hills. I grew up in Newport. We haed a family friend that drove a log truck all over that area in the 60s and early 70s. For fun Somtimes I would ride around with him in the summer. In fact, have some frinds that run the restraunt at the Stayton golf course. Small world. I was really sad to see the the old T&R truck stop turned into a porn shop.What a waste. Does ALbany still have that Timber Festaval? I ahven't heard much about it in years. About those 2x4 built houses. I'm surprised you did n't run in to one over there what with all the stud mills that were in that area.Maybe that missing village idiot I hear about made his way to Newport and started building 2x4 houses? So are you building a boat? Bob |
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Brian D wrote: Yeah ...we spend a lot of time in the hills, hiking and camping and boating (and fishing for Kokes). Lucky dog. Growing up in Newport we would lust for a trip to the "valley" in the summer. Lots of streams running out of the Cascades and those little lakes filled with Kokanee and other finned enjoyment. Albany has gone downhill in a couple of ways I think. It's had a heckuva meth problem but they're cracking down on that. Welcom to Oregon and every other state that has lost good jobs. When I graduated from high school I had three choices: Log....... Fish........ or go to college. For our kids not its basiclally colege or Wal Mart. I can see why somany people are selling drugs or growing "medical pot". Now my (nurse) wife tells me the OD from heroin instead and have a lower chance of survival. This is a small world............ my wife is a nurse too! Although she says she is not a "real" nurse since she works in the OR. The T&R is gone. The Worldwide Timer Carnival is gone ...a real loss too. They said that it didn't generate enough revenue, so they shut it down for good. I don't get that at all, because tickets weren't cheap and the place was ALWAYS packed ...best 4th of July fireworks display around, and lots of fun things to watch at the show. Saw 2 guys racing through a log with V8-powered chainsaws last time (do a web search). Lots of fun. Too bad. That was a lot of fun. But a V8 chainsaw?!?!?!? Gads, I mised that! I asked my Dad about those 2x4 houses since he was born and raised around here as well. He knew all about them. He said that they were built from low-grade wood that had knots in it, odds & ends that weren't long enough for other uses, and that kind of thing. He said it worked just fine except that running wires and plumbing was more difficult. I've probably seen one and just didn't know it. Good to hear I just wasn't just imagining things. Depoe Bay Wooden Boat show this weekend. Cool! Way cute little harbor. To bad I can not duck enough to get my mast under 101. We're just having breakfast and heading over. I've got a friend who's launching a B&B Yacht Designs Coresound-20 for the first time today and will be christening her ...won't tell us the name ;-). It's a nice boat and he said it was a great pleasure working with Graham and Carla at B&B. Good folks. I'm working on about boat #4 or #5 (can't recall) right now: http://www.glacierboats.com/tongass . The web site is way out of date but nobody knows ...they can't see inside my shop! I'm getting ready to paint the hull and am about 1/3rd done with the cuddy/house. Brian D Brian, I went to web site. Your roots are showing. Great looking boat! She definatly has that salmon dory look. In the 70s there was a guy in Newport who build modified Oregon/Pacific City dorys for the salmon fleet. Was that Calkins? Can't remember any moor I've hung around too many boat shops as a kid. At any rate who ever the builder was he made some great boats. I use to hang out as much as possible watching. If I remeber right most were all 1/2 ply sides 3/4" bottoms and framed in clear fir old growth. I use to see a few over grown with blackberres during the late 80s and 90s. It was real shame to see so many good boats just sitting there rotting. Brian you have a great eye for design. Good to see some folks still value a fast, seaworthy, and stout boat. What are thinking about for power options? IO or outboards? Hope trip to the boat show went well. Stay out of Gracie's Sea Hag! Bob "Bob" wrote in message oups.com... Brian D wrote: I shouldn't have used the term "lodgepole" because that's a pine ...no pine around here, but plenty of skinny fir, hem, and spruce up in them thar hills. The miner's cabins that I spoke of were off roads FR-2209 and FR-2207, which in turn are off the road that goes to the Opal Creek area (forgot the name ...but near Mehama), which turns off of Hwy 22 east of Salem. I live in Albany but grew up around here and those woods up there are my old stompin' grounds. I've worn out a lot of springs driving up and down those roads... Brian D Hi Brian: I know that area reasonable good. East of Salem/Albany is beautiful up against the hills. I grew up in Newport. We haed a family friend that drove a log truck all over that area in the 60s and early 70s. For fun Somtimes I would ride around with him in the summer. In fact, have some frinds that run the restraunt at the Stayton golf course. Small world. I was really sad to see the the old T&R truck stop turned into a porn shop.What a waste. Does ALbany still have that Timber Festaval? I ahven't heard much about it in years. About those 2x4 built houses. I'm surprised you did n't run in to one over there what with all the stud mills that were in that area.Maybe that missing village idiot I hear about made his way to Newport and started building 2x4 houses? So are you building a boat? Bob |
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Here's an example of a V8 chainsaw: http://www.compfused.com/directlink/154 I don't think that's one of the ones that I saw, but it's been awhile now ....hard to say. BTW, my wife works in the ICU ... Thanks for the compliments on the boat. It will use a V8 chainsaw for power. Just kidding ;-). 160 to 200 hp is the range that's about right for it. It should push the upper thirties with 180 hp, based on the various prediction formulae that I used and the boats that I compared to. The choices are what you'd guess ... you get about 1000# on the transom, but the little secret is that it'll actually carry 1200# if you've got a regular pilot house on it as shown. The 'light ship' version (the Rockport downeaster style) should be limited to 1000# however. One of the proto builders is putting twin 90's on it, and the other guy hasn't decided. He'll likely go with a 180-200 hp outboard, but he's been asking about an inboard also. The new Cummins-Mercruiser diesel inboards (with I/O) will work. The stringers, decks, etc. are all placed such that any of these combo's will work without having anything in the way of proper mounting. The boat was designed for 5/8" bottoms and 3/8" sides, but it seems folks like the availability of 3/4" and the idea of going thicker on the bottom, so the design has been reworked with 3/4" bottoms and 3/8" sides. The sides are light but completely adequate, having some light uprights inside and the splashrails outside to keep deflection down. The sheer structure is pretty heavy, and the bulkheads are either 1/2" or 3/4" depending on which you are talking about. The primary bulkhead (aft cuddy bulkhead) is 3/4" thick. Decks are glued and glassed in and there are outboard supplemental stringers ....very strong box-girder type of under-deck hull construction. Main stringers are 1-3/4" by 9-1/2" LVL. This boat is strong yet not heavy. With full cuddy and properly accommodated pilot house, but no motor(s) or fuel, the boat weighs in at about 2750#. With motors, half fuel, normal crew and gear, it has a 3800# displacement ...light for a 26 footer. Brian D "Bob" wrote in message oups.com... Brian D wrote: Yeah ...we spend a lot of time in the hills, hiking and camping and boating (and fishing for Kokes). Lucky dog. Growing up in Newport we would lust for a trip to the "valley" in the summer. Lots of streams running out of the Cascades and those little lakes filled with Kokanee and other finned enjoyment. Albany has gone downhill in a couple of ways I think. It's had a heckuva meth problem but they're cracking down on that. Welcom to Oregon and every other state that has lost good jobs. When I graduated from high school I had three choices: Log....... Fish........ or go to college. For our kids not its basiclally colege or Wal Mart. I can see why somany people are selling drugs or growing "medical pot". Now my (nurse) wife tells me the OD from heroin instead and have a lower chance of survival. This is a small world............ my wife is a nurse too! Although she says she is not a "real" nurse since she works in the OR. The T&R is gone. The Worldwide Timer Carnival is gone ...a real loss too. They said that it didn't generate enough revenue, so they shut it down for good. I don't get that at all, because tickets weren't cheap and the place was ALWAYS packed ...best 4th of July fireworks display around, and lots of fun things to watch at the show. Saw 2 guys racing through a log with V8-powered chainsaws last time (do a web search). Lots of fun. Too bad. That was a lot of fun. But a V8 chainsaw?!?!?!? Gads, I mised that! I asked my Dad about those 2x4 houses since he was born and raised around here as well. He knew all about them. He said that they were built from low-grade wood that had knots in it, odds & ends that weren't long enough for other uses, and that kind of thing. He said it worked just fine except that running wires and plumbing was more difficult. I've probably seen one and just didn't know it. Good to hear I just wasn't just imagining things. Depoe Bay Wooden Boat show this weekend. Cool! Way cute little harbor. To bad I can not duck enough to get my mast under 101. We're just having breakfast and heading over. I've got a friend who's launching a B&B Yacht Designs Coresound-20 for the first time today and will be christening her ...won't tell us the name ;-). It's a nice boat and he said it was a great pleasure working with Graham and Carla at B&B. Good folks. I'm working on about boat #4 or #5 (can't recall) right now: http://www.glacierboats.com/tongass . The web site is way out of date but nobody knows ...they can't see inside my shop! I'm getting ready to paint the hull and am about 1/3rd done with the cuddy/house. Brian D Brian, I went to web site. Your roots are showing. Great looking boat! She definatly has that salmon dory look. In the 70s there was a guy in Newport who build modified Oregon/Pacific City dorys for the salmon fleet. Was that Calkins? Can't remember any moor I've hung around too many boat shops as a kid. At any rate who ever the builder was he made some great boats. I use to hang out as much as possible watching. If I remeber right most were all 1/2 ply sides 3/4" bottoms and framed in clear fir old growth. I use to see a few over grown with blackberres during the late 80s and 90s. It was real shame to see so many good boats just sitting there rotting. Brian you have a great eye for design. Good to see some folks still value a fast, seaworthy, and stout boat. What are thinking about for power options? IO or outboards? Hope trip to the boat show went well. Stay out of Gracie's Sea Hag! Bob "Bob" wrote in message oups.com... Brian D wrote: I shouldn't have used the term "lodgepole" because that's a pine ...no pine around here, but plenty of skinny fir, hem, and spruce up in them thar hills. The miner's cabins that I spoke of were off roads FR-2209 and FR-2207, which in turn are off the road that goes to the Opal Creek area (forgot the name ...but near Mehama), which turns off of Hwy 22 east of Salem. I live in Albany but grew up around here and those woods up there are my old stompin' grounds. I've worn out a lot of springs driving up and down those roads... Brian D Hi Brian: I know that area reasonable good. East of Salem/Albany is beautiful up against the hills. I grew up in Newport. We haed a family friend that drove a log truck all over that area in the 60s and early 70s. For fun Somtimes I would ride around with him in the summer. In fact, have some frinds that run the restraunt at the Stayton golf course. Small world. I was really sad to see the the old T&R truck stop turned into a porn shop.What a waste. Does ALbany still have that Timber Festaval? I ahven't heard much about it in years. About those 2x4 built houses. I'm surprised you did n't run in to one over there what with all the stud mills that were in that area.Maybe that missing village idiot I hear about made his way to Newport and started building 2x4 houses? So are you building a boat? Bob |
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