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making a rudder - this may be a stupid question but.........
I recollect the generic term "kellet" and that there was a commercial
product called "Rode Rider". "derbyrm" wrote in message news:TbZ_f.920479$xm3.387773@attbi_s21... "DSK" wrote in message ... True. That doesn't mean you need to carry it right at the bow. derbyrm wrote: But that's where the self draining storage compartment is shown by the designer. That's a good feature. I didn't think much of anchor wells until we owned a boat that had one. Bolger's designs have the added benefit of being able to get the weight down lower. Still want to minimize weight up front. The boat's not a one-design racer but it's small enough to suffer if you were to carry too much weight up there. Misunderstanding here! I gave up the idea of an all chain rode when I gave up on my version of Badger. The short heavy length is what I'm thinking of. Or a keggle. Don't know what a keggle is. I've been having trouble finding the correct spelling for the gadget. What I'm referring to is a weight which slides down the rode, part way, to emulate the catenary you'd get with the chain. It has its own light line for recovery and positioning. We do a lot of anchoring in shallow muddy places. The set-up we use for our "working" anchor is a shorter (40') length of heavier chain. Bought from a farm-supply store at approx 1/2 marine prices (yes it is HT hot galvanized, same stuff). I imagine that most of my anchoring will be along the shores of the Ohio River, and there's some pretty nasty jetsum, up to and including houses and sunken barges, in those parts. You'll probably want a trip line. We rarely use one. Our plan is to do an eastern loop (or Great Loop or circumnavigate West Virginia) via the ICW, Hudson, Erie Canal, Great Lakes, Mississippi River, down & around Florida... up the Ohio for at least a short stretch, so we'll see what it's like too. That "Great Loop" excursion has been a dream of mine for many years, starting back when I lived in Schenectady, NY. I don't think the Chebacco's living accomodations are up to it. It would work better with one of Bolger's long, skinny motor boats. I found it interesting that from Cleveland to Chicago is over 1000 miles by water. That's an idea I really like! I keep forgetting that I'll have all that storage under the cockpit seats. Once it's rinsed off, it can go by the battery bank (with proper insulation/protection/baffles). Can you put in a self-draining shelf to put it on? The darn things are almost always dirty & damp. Good idea, but it will have to wait until I turn the hull over. Here's my current project http://community.webshots.com/album/82561569ZSrzNA Fresh Breezes- Doug King Roger http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm |
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making a rudder - this may be a stupid question but.........
Jim Conlin wrote:
I recollect the generic term "kellet" and that there was a commercial product called "Rode Rider". Isn't "killock" also used for that? Nautical terminolgy isn't a high precision science. In the Hornblower books, occasionally they use a cannon barrel as a kellet, for better holding & security. Kind of drastic but then Hornblower *never* dragged anchor! Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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making a rudder - this may be a stupid question but.........
That's the word!
Roger (a brain is a terrible thing to lose) http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm "Jim Conlin" wrote I recollect the generic term "kellet" and that there was a commercial product called "Rode Rider". "derbyrm" wrote in message news:TbZ_f.920479$xm3.387773@attbi_s21... "DSK" wrote in message ... True. That doesn't mean you need to carry it right at the bow. derbyrm wrote: snip Misunderstanding here! I gave up the idea of an all chain rode when I gave up on my version of Badger. The short heavy length is what I'm thinking of. Or a keggle. Don't know what a keggle is. I've been having trouble finding the correct spelling for the gadget. What I'm referring to is a weight which slides down the rode, part way, to emulate the catenary you'd get with the chain. It has its own light line for recovery and positioning. snip |
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making a rudder - this may be a stupid question but.........
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)
Killock \Kil"lock\, n. [Cf. Scot. killick ``the flue [fluke] of an anchor.'' --Jamieson.] A small anchor; also, a kind of anchor formed by a stone inclosed by pieces of wood fastened together. [Written also killick.]"DSK" wrote in message ... Jim Conlin wrote: I recollect the generic term "kellet" and that there was a commercial product called "Rode Rider". Isn't "killock" also used for that? Nautical terminolgy isn't a high precision science. In the Hornblower books, occasionally they use a cannon barrel as a kellet, for better holding & security. Kind of drastic but then Hornblower *never* dragged anchor! Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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making a rudder - this may be a stupid question but.........
Jim Conlin wrote:
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) Killock \Kil"lock\, n. [Cf. Scot. killick ``the flue [fluke] of an anchor.'' --Jamieson.] A small anchor; also, a kind of anchor formed by a stone inclosed by pieces of wood fastened together. [Written also killick.] Got it. The nice thing about the "kind of anchor formed by a stone inclosed by pieces of wood fastened together" (gee I haven't seen one of those in years & years) is that it's totally corrosion free. DSK |
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making a rudder - this may be a stupid question but.........
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:57:51 GMT, "derbyrm"
wrote: Mr. Fox seems to disagree with Phillip C. Bolger. In "Thirty Odd Boats" PCB, commenting on Herreshoff's Rosinante suggests that "half the weight in that 3000 lb. keel is to give the boat momentum." The keel is the only part of a sailboat that benefits from weight, and even there it should be limited to just what is necessary. |
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