Opps! try this link too. This page shows four average sized chaps hauling
in some nets into their dory....wondering if that equals weight of
dogs+family+whatever. Just another idea...not pitching a sale here..good
luck, Mike

Here : http://www.spirainternational.com/hp_gbdories.html

the tradeoff between the simple banks dory and flatiron skiff is draft and
floor space. the dory sinks deeper in the water because of its narrow
bottom and transom. you can't put a motor on a dory and get it to plane.
You may not be able to run a dory up on a beach and step out without
getting your feet wet.

I don't know how the dory and skiff compare on the amount of wetted
surface friction which is what determines the energy needed to row them at
the same speed. The free skiff program on my website computes wetted
surface so it can be used to compare the two. (A skiff is a dory with a
wider bottom and transom. Some of the rocker on a dory is removed by
shaping the bottom plank. Its described in the instructions for the
computer program.)

"Mike Brannon" ) writes:
Opps! try this link too. This page shows four average sized chaps hauling
in some nets into their dory....wondering if that equals weight of
dogs+family+whatever. Just another idea...not pitching a sale here..good
luck, Mike

Here : http://www.spirainternational.com/hp_gbdories.html




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hugh says:

let me get this straight... you're planning to row a boat that's carrying
300kg of people plus their gear?

That's only 3 reasonable adults plus soakage. ;-)
Not that painful with a good Whitehall-style boat beneath you. With a
flattie.....

Are unreasonable adults heavier or lighter?
;-)

"Stephen Baker" wrote
hugh says:
let me get this straight... you're planning to row a boat that's carrying
300kg of people plus their gear?

That's only 3 reasonable adults plus soakage. ;-)
Not that painful with a good Whitehall-style boat beneath you. With a
flattie.....

Paul Squire asks with a smile:

Are unreasonable adults heavier or lighter?
;-)

Heavier - they carry too much baggage and have large chips on their shoulders.
;-)

No... it's 2 adults, 5 kids, two dogs, plus a long list of gear. that's what
he said in the original post. there's no way in the world that will all fit
in a 17' whitehall style rowboat. to have a narrow boat carry that lot
you'd need 20+ feet, or a shorter boat with a big beam. in either case,
rowing is going to be a LOT of work, especially since he wants a boat that
can deal with potentially rough coastal conditions. you're not getting me
off any coast i know with 7 people and 2 dogs and a bunch of gear in any
whitehall style boat i've ever seen.....

hugh


"Stephen Baker" wrote in message
...
hugh says:

let me get this straight... you're planning to row a boat that's carrying
300kg of people plus their gear?

That's only 3 reasonable adults plus soakage. ;-)
Not that painful with a good Whitehall-style boat beneath you. With a
flattie.....

Hugh says:

No... it's 2 adults, 5 kids, two dogs, plus a long list of gear. that's what
he said in the original post.

Yup. I was really just mentally totting up the weight and equating it to
multiples of easily-imagined weight units ;-)

17ft does sound small, but 20 feet should do it. Rowing that weight is not
that painfull with two grown folks doing the work. I have been quite happy
rowing my sister and two grown children around in an 18' whitehall-type boat.
Adding another adult and two small kids shouldn't be too bad if the other adult
is working too.

Steve
Stephen C. Baker - Yacht Designer
http://members.aol.com/SailDesign/pr...cbweb/home.htm

Paul,

You might look at Phil Bolger's "Big Dory".

Ford Walton

the "Big Dory" design says it is designed for 1-3 adults, and if you look at
the plans you'll see that there's no way you'll get 2 adults, 5 kids, two
dogs, and a long list of gear into that boat. well, as i said before - no
way that you could get all that gear in and still consider it safe on
coastal waters..

hugh


"Ford and Mary Ann Walton" wrote in message
...
Paul,

You might look at Phil Bolger's "Big Dory".

Ford Walton

I grew up here in Hawaii on a canal that lead to the ocean in my
backyard. I had 5 siblings so a total of 6 kids. My dad in his 20 feet
plywood Grand Banks Dory would row the lot of us the 3 miles to the
beach on the weekends. Sometimes he'd head out the mouth of the canal
into the open Pacific Ocean and row to the nearby small offshore islands
so we could explore. Beauty of Dories besides their clean lines was the
ease of rowing, and the inherent stability of the design, the more weigh
in the boat the more stable it became. My vote goes to the Grand Banks
style Dory.

Spy in Hawaii