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Mike Brannon
 
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Default Large rowboat for large family

I agree with Steve,
If you want to carry a large load and still row yourself around then the
dory design is most appropriate. Dories come in many shapes and sizes but
the predominate feature about them seems to be their seaworthiness. For
your requirements a tradional "banks style" dory would do the job. John
Gardner(echoing steve again) has a book entirely devoted to them called "The
Dory Book", complete with history and "how to" as well as plans for more
than a dozen different kinds. His other works also contain dory plans, some
reworked, which offer alternatives such as motor wells(for outboards) or
surfboats capable of beach launching. In his works he writes that all the
dories can be built using plywood as a substitute for the traditional white
pine. By the way...a dory in the 20 foot catagory is a very large boat to
row singlehanded.
Another alternative to Gardner would be a design by Ian Oughtred. He
designed a dory called "John Dory" out of plywood. It is 18'-6" OAL and
about 4'-6" beam. It incorporates a motorwell and is designed to row or sail
as well. With a small sacrafice in size you can have it all. I think
"Wooden Boat publications" sells the plans. I have a personal set that I
plan to use one day..but I can give you details from them if you want. If
you go with Oughtred buy his book on plywood boatbuilding too. Lots of pics
and usefull tips for building plywood lapstrake.

Regards ,Mike Brannon
"stevej" wrote in message
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I usually think of a sharpie as a sailing design.
I built a 19 ft one years ago and it sailed fast but
was hard to row. It also tended to pound quite a bit in a chop.
For rowing a big boat, and one that was flat bottomed and simple to
build, I'd lean toward a dory. Though the initial stability may be a bit
less then seems comfortable, you'd be hard pressed to roll one of these
over in most conditions.
Here are links to two photos of heavy work dories.

http://www.geocities.com/boats2build2003/300dories.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/boats2build2003/300dories2.jpg

One guy who has successfully used another type of dory for rowing is
Mick Bird. If fact he has rowed across a couple of oceans with his.
I realise that his boat is custom designed for a very specific purpose,
but it may bea starting place for ideas.
http://www.goals.com/transrow/

Mabey you can find a stretched out version of a dory in plywood
somewhere like from John Gardner or somebody. Then again, why not build
a real one using planks instead of plywood? The real ones are still
being made from white pine.
Of course anything as large as you are looking for would have to
be trailered rather than car topped. As soon as you get big enough to
trailer, the weight becomes somewhat less of an issue and my thought
would be to go toward beefy rather than light weight.


SteveJ

Paul Squire wrote:
Can anyone recommend a design?

I want to build a boat my wife and I can row with our whole family

aboard.
It is a large family - 2 adults, 5 children (ranging from new-born twins

to
8 years) and 2 dogs of 20kg each. So we need a rowing boat carrying

almost
300kg of biomass plus lunch, drinks, spare clothes, towels, rain coats,
toys, outboard, first aid kit, flares, fuel, sun umbrellas, anchor,

chain,
etc, etc ... That is a lot of weight but it is also a lot of feet,

knees,
elbows and paws - which add up to a lot of space.

It will be a ply sharpie. I like the flat bottom for initial stability

and
the ability to put a window in it (I have visions of the toddlers

peering
delightedly through it at the teaming marine life below. I like the
relatively narrow waterline for efficient rowing and the avoidance of
excessive heal induced by beam seas. I like the single side-plank for

ease
of construction. We don't plan to be out in bad weather but getting

caught
happens to the best. The boat needs to be able to handle estuary and
coastal conditions.

John Welsford's Mollyhawk
(http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz/plans...index.htm#mlhk) is

attractive
but, I suspect a bit small. I have Carlson's design software and could
build a boat from the offsets it produces and would do if I felt capable

of
getting the design compromises right. In particular the compromise of
initial stability vs excessive, sudden wave-induced heal vs efficiency

under
oars needs an experienced designer's eye to my thinking and I have never
built a boat to my own design before. John thought his Walkabout design
would be perfect and he is probably right. However, the multichine
construction is more complex than I have in mind. Furthermore, as a

decked
sailing and rowing design the plans are more complex (and therefore
expensive) than I need. It seams a pity to pay for the design of a
sophisticated camp-cruiser then build it without decks, centrecase, rig,
tent etc. etc.

So I am open to suggestions for a basic flat-bottomed, single sideplank
rowing sharpie, probably about 20' long.

Paul.