a pilot house by any other name
 

Can anyone explain the difference between:
1. pilot house
2. wheel house
3. dog house
4. deck saloon

Thanks, Jim

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, the pilot house
is a wheel house that is raised. A wheel house is a steering station with
hard sides and roof. Neither is outfitted with a salon, keeping in mind
that a salon typically means settee and/or table, galley, and the like, and
it's sometimes separated from the pilot house, and as mentioned, sometimes
on a separate level (even if only different by 6").

No clue on dog house, but my wife says I live there. And I have no clue on
what a deck saloon is ...is that just a cooler of beer?

Brian D



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Can anyone explain the difference between:
1. pilot house
2. wheel house
3. dog house
4. deck saloon

Thanks, Jim

Brian D wrote:
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, the pilot house
is a wheel house that is raised. A wheel house is a steering station with
hard sides and roof. Neither is outfitted with a salon, keeping in mind
that a salon typically means settee and/or table, galley, and the like, and
it's sometimes separated from the pilot house, and as mentioned, sometimes
on a separate level (even if only different by 6").

A saloon is a place where you go to drink (the "living room"
on a boat).

A salon is where women go to get their hair done.

And the terms pilot house/wheelhouse/deck saloon are all
pretty much interchangeable.

Evan Gatehouse

Thanks. But what if I like to drink with the ladies while they get their
hair done?

Brian


"Evan Gatehouse" wrote in message
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Brian D wrote:
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, the pilot
house is a wheel house that is raised. A wheel house is a steering
station with hard sides and roof. Neither is outfitted with a salon,
keeping in mind that a salon typically means settee and/or table, galley,
and the like, and it's sometimes separated from the pilot house, and as
mentioned, sometimes on a separate level (even if only different by 6").

A saloon is a place where you go to drink (the "living room" on a boat).

A salon is where women go to get their hair done.

And the terms pilot house/wheelhouse/deck saloon are all pretty much
interchangeable.

Evan Gatehouse

I believe a dog house refers to the curved enclosing structure over a
hatchway that allows it to have a vertical door. Like the front deck
of this boat:
http://www.benford.us/index.html?trawler/

I can't find it now, but I think I've seen a dog house described as a
shelter over a small cockpit that did not have a hatch accessing below.

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Can anyone explain the difference between:
1. pilot house
2. wheel house
3. dog house
4. deck saloon

Thanks, Jim

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Can anyone explain the difference between:
1. pilot house
Shed on an upper deck with steering, contols and nav gear

2. wheel house
Flasher than 1, and usually incorporated into other structure

3. dog house
Rigid cover over forward end of cocpit protecting some of the crew and
companionway

4. deck saloon
Living room with view while seated, often incorporates functions of 1 1n2

barry lawson

Never tried it. Sounds like it could be painful!
"Brian D" wrote in message
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Thanks. But what if I like to drink with the ladies while they get their
hair done?

Brian


"Evan Gatehouse" wrote in message
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Brian D wrote:
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, the pilot
house is a wheel house that is raised. A wheel house is a steering
station with hard sides and roof. Neither is outfitted with a salon,
keeping in mind that a salon typically means settee and/or table,
galley, and the like, and it's sometimes separated from the pilot house,
and as mentioned, sometimes on a separate level (even if only different
by 6").

A saloon is a place where you go to drink (the "living room" on a boat).

A salon is where women go to get their hair done.

And the terms pilot house/wheelhouse/deck saloon are all pretty much
interchangeable.

Evan Gatehouse

Brian D wrote:
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, the
pilot house
is a wheel house that is raised. A wheel house is a steering station
with
hard sides and roof. Neither is outfitted with a salon, keeping in
mind
that a salon typically means settee and/or table, galley, and the
like, and
it's sometimes separated from the pilot house, and as mentioned,
sometimes
on a separate level (even if only different by 6").

No clue on dog house, but my wife says I live there. And I have no
clue on
what a deck saloon is ...is that just a cooler of beer?

Brian D

You might be right. However, I am building a pilothouse sloop and it's
not raised. I would not call it a wheel house, but I think of wheel
houses as being raised as well. I think of wheel houses as somthing on
a larger commercial boat whereas a pilothouse might be on a smaller
workboat or a recreational craft. That is certainly not a qualified
definition, however.

Al Gunther Kingston, WA ---- 47=B0 48.1'N, 122=B0 30.0'W

Hi Al. Long time no talk. I spoke with you years ago back when I was
building a drift boat and you gave me lots of good advice. How's that
carvel planked sailboat coming? I've built several boats since then, and am
now working on this one: http://www.reelboats.com .

On the whole 'house thing, how about if we just say "the house" and leave it
at that? Seems like the most general answer and not too confusing. I think
"cabin" is more confusing personally ...some think it's the cuddy (sleeping
quarters in the bow) and some think it's the whole schmo ...cuddy AND house
AND saloon. And then there's deck and sole ...which is which, and when does
a deck become a sole and vice versa? How about floors? Traditional
sailboat fans know what the floors are, but how about everyone else? Are we
having fun yet? Scuppers or freeing ports? Seacocks or valves? Motor or
engine? Line or rode? Window or 'operator'? Port light or porthole? Oi!

Brian D



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Brian D wrote:
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, the
pilot house
is a wheel house that is raised. A wheel house is a steering station
with
hard sides and roof. Neither is outfitted with a salon, keeping in
mind
that a salon typically means settee and/or table, galley, and the
like, and
it's sometimes separated from the pilot house, and as mentioned,
sometimes
on a separate level (even if only different by 6").

No clue on dog house, but my wife says I live there. And I have no
clue on
what a deck saloon is ...is that just a cooler of beer?

Brian D

You might be right. However, I am building a pilothouse sloop and it's
not raised. I would not call it a wheel house, but I think of wheel
houses as being raised as well. I think of wheel houses as somthing on
a larger commercial boat whereas a pilothouse might be on a smaller
workboat or a recreational craft. That is certainly not a qualified
definition, however.

Al Gunther Kingston, WA ---- 47° 48.1'N, 122° 30.0'W