Decks are structural members that complete the box beam of the hull.
The sole is that other flat surface you walk on.

Floors tie the frame halves together across the keel and should not be
walked on.

Roger

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"Brian D" wrote in message
...
Hi Al. Long time no talk. I spoke with you years ago back when I was
building a drift boat and you gave me lots of good advice. How's that
carvel planked sailboat coming? I've built several boats since then, and
am now working on this one: http://www.reelboats.com .

On the whole 'house thing, how about if we just say "the house" and leave
it at that? Seems like the most general answer and not too confusing. I
think "cabin" is more confusing personally ...some think it's the cuddy
(sleeping quarters in the bow) and some think it's the whole schmo
...cuddy AND house AND saloon. And then there's deck and sole ...which is
which, and when does a deck become a sole and vice versa? How about
floors? Traditional sailboat fans know what the floors are, but how about
everyone else? Are we having fun yet? Scuppers or freeing ports?
Seacocks or valves? Motor or engine? Line or rode? Window or
'operator'? Port light or porthole? Oi!

Brian D



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Brian D wrote:
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, the
pilot house
is a wheel house that is raised. A wheel house is a steering station
with
hard sides and roof. Neither is outfitted with a salon, keeping in
mind
that a salon typically means settee and/or table, galley, and the
like, and
it's sometimes separated from the pilot house, and as mentioned,
sometimes
on a separate level (even if only different by 6").

No clue on dog house, but my wife says I live there. And I have no
clue on
what a deck saloon is ...is that just a cooler of beer?

Brian D

You might be right. However, I am building a pilothouse sloop and it's
not raised. I would not call it a wheel house, but I think of wheel
houses as being raised as well. I think of wheel houses as somthing on
a larger commercial boat whereas a pilothouse might be on a smaller
workboat or a recreational craft. That is certainly not a qualified
definition, however.

Al Gunther Kingston, WA ---- 47° 48.1'N, 122° 30.0'W

In the old days of sailing, correct terminology was a life and death
issue so every part of a ship and it's rigging had an exact name and
the whole ship's complement was expected to know and use this
terminology. In today's world, things are mostly different, although
when you are in heavy weather and on a slippery deck, it can still be a
life and death thing. If you want to call my cold molded hull carvel
planked, I don't really care. Carvel planking to me is a traditional
plank on frame construction using fasteners rather than epoxy with
layers of veneer over it.

I think pilothouse and doghouse are generally in reference to a housing
for the ships helm and are normaly at deck level. I think of a
doghouse as being just the bare essentials and the pilothouse as having
more room.

My boat is still coming along. The engine is in place and I'm building
the cabin and cockpit around it.

Al Gunther Kingston, WA ---- 47=B0 48.1'N, 122=B0 30.0'W

Brian D wrote:
Hi Al. Long time no talk. I spoke with you years ago back when I
was
building a drift boat and you gave me lots of good advice. How's
that
carvel planked sailboat coming? I've built several boats since then,
and am
now working on this one: http://www.reelboats.com .

On the whole 'house thing, how about if we just say "the house" and
leave it
at that? Seems like the most general answer and not too confusing.
I think
"cabin" is more confusing personally ...some think it's the cuddy
(sleeping
quarters in the bow) and some think it's the whole schmo ...cuddy AND
house
AND saloon. And then there's deck and sole ...which is which, and
when does
a deck become a sole and vice versa? How about floors? Traditional
sailboat fans know what the floors are, but how about everyone else?
Are we
having fun yet? Scuppers or freeing ports? Seacocks or valves?
Motor or
engine? Line or rode? Window or 'operator'? Port light or
porthole? Oi!
=20
Brian D

My bad memory ...carvel planking would imply fasteners, caulking (cotton,
oakum, etc), no epoxy. I didn't remember that you were cold molding... my
bad ;-)

Brian D



wrote in message
ups.com...
In the old days of sailing, correct terminology was a life and death
issue so every part of a ship and it's rigging had an exact name and
the whole ship's complement was expected to know and use this
terminology. In today's world, things are mostly different, although
when you are in heavy weather and on a slippery deck, it can still be a
life and death thing. If you want to call my cold molded hull carvel
planked, I don't really care. Carvel planking to me is a traditional
plank on frame construction using fasteners rather than epoxy with
layers of veneer over it.

I think pilothouse and doghouse are generally in reference to a housing
for the ships helm and are normaly at deck level. I think of a
doghouse as being just the bare essentials and the pilothouse as having
more room.

My boat is still coming along. The engine is in place and I'm building
the cabin and cockpit around it.

Al Gunther Kingston, WA ---- 47° 48.1'N, 122° 30.0'W

Brian D wrote:
Hi Al. Long time no talk. I spoke with you years ago back when I
was
building a drift boat and you gave me lots of good advice. How's
that
carvel planked sailboat coming? I've built several boats since then,
and am
now working on this one: http://www.reelboats.com .

On the whole 'house thing, how about if we just say "the house" and
leave it
at that? Seems like the most general answer and not too confusing.
I think
"cabin" is more confusing personally ...some think it's the cuddy
(sleeping
quarters in the bow) and some think it's the whole schmo ...cuddy AND
house
AND saloon. And then there's deck and sole ...which is which, and
when does
a deck become a sole and vice versa? How about floors? Traditional
sailboat fans know what the floors are, but how about everyone else?
Are we
having fun yet? Scuppers or freeing ports? Seacocks or valves?
Motor or
engine? Line or rode? Window or 'operator'? Port light or
porthole? Oi!

Brian D