Ok Im def a newB to Boat building and such however my friend and i
would like to build a boat we could use around the intercoastal and in
the ocean for short distances. I was hoping i could build one that
would fit up to 6 people. I would like it to be anywhere from 18 to 24
feet long. We played with the idea of jet propulsion but am not 100 %
sure thats a good idea. So if anyone could explain the different hull
designs and places i could go and get some designs for building a power
boat that can move anywhere from 15 to 20 knots. Hold 6 people. Be
stable enough to withstand some waves (1-3 feet light/moderately
choppy).Relativley easy to build. Cost is an issue so hopefully it wont
cost too much. It soundslike im asking for alot. Any information and
help would be very appriciated.

Marcus Davis a.k.a T-BirdMan

Check out the boats he

http://fishyfish.com/tolmanskiff.html (scroll way down to find lots of
links to projects, pictures, etcetera)

These boats have a long strong reputation in Alaska in coastal waters and
people have done virtually everything with them from open with center or
side console to full-blown cabins on stretch versions of the longer ones.
You can ask questions of current builders and owners he

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tolmanskiff (Yahoo builders forum)

Brian



"TBirdMan1986" wrote in message
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Ok Im def a newB to Boat building and such however my friend and i
would like to build a boat we could use around the intercoastal and in
the ocean for short distances. I was hoping i could build one that
would fit up to 6 people. I would like it to be anywhere from 18 to 24
feet long. We played with the idea of jet propulsion but am not 100 %
sure thats a good idea. So if anyone could explain the different hull
designs and places i could go and get some designs for building a power
boat that can move anywhere from 15 to 20 knots. Hold 6 people. Be
stable enough to withstand some waves (1-3 feet light/moderately
choppy).Relativley easy to build. Cost is an issue so hopefully it wont
cost too much. It soundslike im asking for alot. Any information and
help would be very appriciated.

Marcus Davis a.k.a T-BirdMan

Hi

When you ask 15 to 20 knots I don\t think the tradisional trawler types
are the best choice , to profit from new technikes so you are not stuck
with a difficult construction also ask more modern designs , check this
one that is projected with actural ease of building in mind, no
difficult edges not the hundreds of small finish issues --- emagine a
tradisional emty hull where you still must in the tradisional way , fit
deck and structures ,deadrooms and lockers and compare it with this
smooth design where every surface are finished where the trouble
closing the hull are done with allready when the inner panels are fit,
where adding structure are compleatly different than fitting onto a
tradisional deck and hull , ---- well if you never build a boat it is
maby difficult to emagine that second thought in the design process
realy matter, but if you did you know how much it mean that there are
not the trouble "closing" the hull, that the boat is ready for an
outboard when the hull inner and outher panels are fit, compared a
tradisional open hull, where just fitting the deck , just fitting the
edges for the structure is a huge job. Check out a compleatly different
design aproach ;

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tsunami-Longboat/

tsunami longboat looks cool but there arnt any plans or specs and i def
need both. The tolmaskiff looks ok but its not realy what im lookin
for. I dont really need all that. Just a good quick boat that can carry
6 people without trouble across and opening into the bay/intercoastal.
A cabin would be added later if at all.

Reading between the lines of your original post, I am guessing that you have
some, but not extensive, experience in boats of the size and style you are
considering. (My apologies if I am mistaken) But you don't say WHY you
want to build a boat.

If your primary purpose is that you love working with your hands, and are
looking to spend weekends for a year or two on a project, then you are on
the right track. Likewise if you have investigated every production boat
out there, and none meets your specific requirements.

But I suspect you just want to get out on the water, in an affordable,
reliable, safe boat. If this is the case, building your own is probably the
most expensive, frustrating way to do so. You will do FAR better looking at
used fiberglass or aluminum boats, built 10 to 30 years ago, by a reputable
manufacturer. There are many good ones available, suited to just your
needs. You will get out on the water this spring, for less money, and if
you find it's not the perfect boat for you, it will have a far higher resale
value than a home-built.

Good luck!
Sal's Dad

PS. You can safely ignore Pers. He's shown himself to be a single-minded
nutcase dreamer. To date none of his boats have been built.


"TBirdMan1986" wrote in message
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tsunami longboat looks cool but there arnt any plans or specs and i def
need both. The tolmaskiff looks ok but its not realy what im lookin
for. I dont really need all that. Just a good quick boat that can carry
6 people without trouble across and opening into the bay/intercoastal.
A cabin would be added later if at all.

Hi

If you refere "Sal's dad" you will know the air in this group I quote ;

"PS. You can safely ignore Pers. He's shown himself to be a
single-minded
nutcase dreamer. To date none of his boats have been built. "

Now if you go to the Cyber-Boat group , and some of the other
Cyber-Boat groups you will se what is called foto's , --- these show a
number of genuine wooden boats build and designed by Per Corell,
acturly the Cyber-Boat groups count thousands of members , and fact is
that in this group I posted numbers of foto's all documented by the
plans avaible for free in the Cyber-Boat groups, -------- you can check
the Lofoten-dinghie group you can check the Arandal group if any cheat
in this group want it I can prove what Sal's dad's words are just by
posting the links.
Per Corell

Please post links of finished boats, Per. Every time I look at your
roatating image, I get confused as to what I am looking at.
Maybe it's just me, cause I have a problem sometimes visualizing 3D
objects, courtesy of being hit by a Mack truck, or maybe something else,
but a picture of a built boat would surely help.

Thanks,

Jonathan

wrote:

Hi

If you refere "Sal's dad" you will know the air in this group I quote ;

"PS. You can safely ignore Pers. He's shown himself to be a
single-minded
nutcase dreamer. To date none of his boats have been built. "

Now if you go to the Cyber-Boat group , and some of the other
Cyber-Boat groups you will se what is called foto's , --- these show a
number of genuine wooden boats build and designed by Per Corell,
acturly the Cyber-Boat groups count thousands of members , and fact is
that in this group I posted numbers of foto's all documented by the
plans avaible for free in the Cyber-Boat groups, -------- you can check
the Lofoten-dinghie group you can check the Arandal group if any cheat
in this group want it I can prove what Sal's dad's words are just by
posting the links.
Per Corell

On 16 Mar 2005 14:13:20 -0800, wrote:

Hi

If you refere "Sal's dad" you will know the air in this group I quote ;

"PS. You can safely ignore Pers. He's shown himself to be a
single-minded
nutcase dreamer. To date none of his boats have been built. "

Now if you go to the Cyber-Boat group , and some of the other
Cyber-Boat groups you will se what is called foto's , --- these show a
number of genuine wooden boats build and designed by Per Corell,
acturly the Cyber-Boat groups count thousands of members , and fact is
that in this group I posted numbers of foto's all documented by the
plans avaible for free in the Cyber-Boat groups, -------- you can check
the Lofoten-dinghie group you can check the Arandal group if any cheat
in this group want it I can prove what Sal's dad's words are just by
posting the links.
Per Corell

So why didn't you post the links?



Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


"In this house we _obey_ the laws of thermodynamics." --Homer Simpson

try www.boat-links.com?

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TBirdMan1986 wrote:
Ok Im def a newB to Boat building and such however my friend and i
would like to build a boat we could use around the intercoastal and
in
the ocean for short distances. I was hoping i could build one that
would fit up to 6 people. I would like it to be anywhere from 18 to
24
feet long. We played with the idea of jet propulsion but am not 100 %
sure thats a good idea. So if anyone could explain the different hull
designs and places i could go and get some designs for building a
power
boat that can move anywhere from 15 to 20 knots. Hold 6 people. Be
stable enough to withstand some waves (1-3 feet light/moderately
choppy).Relativley easy to build. Cost is an issue so hopefully it
wont
cost too much. It soundslike im asking for alot. Any information and
help would be very appriciated.

Marcus Davis a.k.a T-BirdMan


Well, I am surprised Jaques is not here yet... seeing as this time, he
probably IS the place to start Anyway, go to bateau.com and contact
them at the forums, he probably has something for you there..

Scotty, the backyard renegade... retired...