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Drew Dalgleish ) writes:

http://www.geodesicairoliteboats.com/
I don't know about durability but they sure are light


you can get there now at www.gaboats.com. I think that's it.

he made a video showing how to build the boats. Ottawa public library has a
copy.

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I built one of the Geodesic canoes several years ago. They are very light
weight. durability is fair, mainly they don't tolerate abrasion very well.
I used aircraft Dacron and heated it. it shrank and twisted the frame some
so be careful.

most of the kayak types are using a ballistic nylon and painting or
varnishing it.

for your purpose since it is a ply kayak I would go with something that has
major abrasion resistance like Kevlar, although it is a pain to cut.

Brian


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"Brian Combs" ) writes:

for your purpose since it is a ply kayak I would go with something that has
major abrasion resistance like Kevlar, although it is a pain to cut.


Interesting to note that some canvas covered cedar strip canoes are being
revcovered with heat shrink Dacron when the canvas wears out. Montfort
sells a booklet describing how to do it.

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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:50:31 GMT, Brian Nystrom
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lupi wrote:

I heard Dacron stretched with a hair dryer then painted with shelac
over a lightweight skeleton was the latest craze. They look so cool on
top of the Ken and Barbiemobile. You can see right through it. Une
objet dart and all. I have no reports on durability. Isn't there a
Kayak or expeditioning group on line? Keep paddling and good luck.


Polyester fabrics (Dacron is just a Dupont trade name for polyester
fabric) come in a variety of weights with widely varying shrinkage
characteristics. What you're referring to is probably "aircraft Dacron",
which is also available under the Ceonite brand. It's a very light
fabric (2.4 - 3.7 oz./yard) that's designed for aircraft wings and which
heat shrinks well. It's too light to produce a durable kayak. Typical
polyester kayak skin fabrics range from 9 to 16 ounces. Most do not heat
shrink to any appreciable degree, certainly not to the degee that
aircraft dacron does. Dynel is also polyester. I'm not sure of the exact
weight, but the material is similar to polyester T-shirt material.


Homebuilders have been known to use 2.9 oz dress polyester.
You can buy it in the store as 100% polyester dress lining.

Aircraft covers have a surprizing potential to resist pressure
from a smooth round tool, but sharp edges are a problem.

Shellac has the surprizing property of covering a wide variety of
difficult surfaces, including, for example 100% wax.

Aircraft fabric surfaces usually carry an aluminum powder under coat
intended to provide UV resistance.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK
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