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Gingerbread! I knew it was something along those lines!

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On Dec 31 2009, 11:02*am, Every time wrote:
Gingerbread! I knew it was something along those lines!

Thanks!


No, that is not it.

Its called the Taffrail.

Look in wikipedia for a picture of a "taffrail."

The term comes from the Dutch word for an ornately decorated stern of
a ship
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 08:27:38 -0800 (PST), "jim.isbell"
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On Dec 31 2009, 11:02*am, Every time wrote:
Gingerbread! I knew it was something along those lines!

Thanks!


No, that is not it.

Its called the Taffrail.

Look in wikipedia for a picture of a "taffrail."

The term comes from the Dutch word for an ornately decorated stern of
a ship



I did as you directed and read, "A Taffrail is the aftermost railing
around the stern of a ship, often, but not always, ornately carved. A
taffrail log is an object dragged from the stern ..."

Note the "often, but not always, ornately carved".

Try
http://images.google.co.th/images?q=... d=0CCIQsAQwAw
more information on taffrail.

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On Jan 1, 6:34*pm, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 08:27:38 -0800 (PST), "jim.isbell"

wrote:
On Dec 31 2009, 11:02*am, Every time wrote:
Gingerbread! I knew it was something along those lines!


Thanks!


No, that is not it.


Its called the Taffrail.


Look in wikipedia for a picture of a "taffrail."


The term comes from the Dutch word for an ornately decorated stern of
a ship


That is the "newer" definition. It comes from the original Dutch
which SPECIFICALLY refers to an ornately decorated stern rail.
Wikipedia shows a picture of the stern of such a ship in their
definition. Later it came to refer to ONLY the upper rail. But the
original poster wanted to know the term to refer to the ornately
decorated stern. Taffrail IS that term. Gingerbread is a landlubber
term for the decorations under the eves of the house often seen at the
peak of the roof. It does not refer to a boat.


I did as you directed and read, "A Taffrail is the aftermost railing
around the stern of a ship, often, but not always, ornately carved. A
taffrail log is an object dragged from the stern ..."

Note the "often, but not always, ornately carved".

Tryhttp://images.google.co.th/images?q=taffrail&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:...
more information on taffrail.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 08:16:41 -0800 (PST), "jim.isbell"
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On Jan 1, 6:34*pm, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 08:27:38 -0800 (PST), "jim.isbell"

wrote:
On Dec 31 2009, 11:02*am, Every time wrote:
Gingerbread! I knew it was something along those lines!


Thanks!


No, that is not it.


Its called the Taffrail.


Look in wikipedia for a picture of a "taffrail."


The term comes from the Dutch word for an ornately decorated stern of
a ship


That is the "newer" definition. It comes from the original Dutch
which SPECIFICALLY refers to an ornately decorated stern rail.
Wikipedia shows a picture of the stern of such a ship in their
definition. Later it came to refer to ONLY the upper rail. But the
original poster wanted to know the term to refer to the ornately
decorated stern. Taffrail IS that term. Gingerbread is a landlubber
term for the decorations under the eves of the house often seen at the
peak of the roof. It does not refer to a boat.


First you state that taffrail comes from the Dutch word for an ornate
stern of a ship and then you state that it comes from the word that
specifically refers to an ornately decorated stern rail.

I don't think you can have it both ways. Either the term applies to a
stern or a rail.

The closest word in Dutch might be "tafel" - which means table.
Gebeeldhouwd means carved and a carved railing would be gebeeldhouwd
hekwerk.

Cheers,

Bruce
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On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 07:57:22 +0700 Bruce In Bangkok
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First you state that taffrail comes from the Dutch word for an ornate
stern of a ship and then you state that it comes from the word that
specifically refers to an ornately decorated stern rail.


I don't think you can have it both ways. Either the term applies to a
stern or a rail.


The closest word in Dutch might be "tafel" - which means table.
Gebeeldhouwd means carved and a carved railing would be gebeeldhouwd
hekwerk.


Taffrail sounds also very much like "tafereel" and guess what Google
gave with "taffrail tafereel": http://www.dictionary.net/taffrail

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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 13:59:14 GMT, Richard van den Berg
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On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 07:57:22 +0700 Bruce In Bangkok
) wrote:
First you state that taffrail comes from the Dutch word for an ornate
stern of a ship and then you state that it comes from the word that
specifically refers to an ornately decorated stern rail.


I don't think you can have it both ways. Either the term applies to a
stern or a rail.


The closest word in Dutch might be "tafel" - which means table.
Gebeeldhouwd means carved and a carved railing would be gebeeldhouwd
hekwerk.


Taffrail sounds also very much like "tafereel" and guess what Google
gave with "taffrail tafereel": http://www.dictionary.net/taffrail



Yes, tafereel translate to " picture, scene, description" in modern
Dutch,

Cheers,

Bruce
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Richard van den Berg wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 07:57:22 +0700 Bruce In Bangkok
) wrote:
First you state that taffrail comes from the Dutch word for an ornate
stern of a ship and then you state that it comes from the word that
specifically refers to an ornately decorated stern rail.


I don't think you can have it both ways. Either the term applies to a
stern or a rail.


The closest word in Dutch might be "tafel" - which means table.
Gebeeldhouwd means carved and a carved railing would be gebeeldhouwd
hekwerk.


Taffrail sounds also very much like "tafereel" and guess what Google
gave with "taffrail tafereel": http://www.dictionary.net/taffrail


Ha! Bruce has many fine qualities, among which, the ready acceptance of
a better answer than the one on which he has settled, does not show up.
He will continue to argue the merits to unusual lengths. Watch!

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