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On Oct 22, 10:37*am, Tosk wrote:
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On Oct 21, 4:19*pm, bruce@not. wrote:
I bought an old 1977 runabout and want to get it registered in
GA, but the last time it was registered was in FL. So far I
haven't been able to contact the last person who registered it,
or even find out who they are. The GA DNR told me to contact the
FL DNR, but it looks like in FL the DMV handles boat
registration. Can anyone tell me the best way of going about
this?


Thanks for any help!


In GA, if you have a bill of sale from the seller, you're good to go.


Yeah, great for the boat thieves who work in this area. It's
irresponsible of the Georgian govt to allow that to happen so freely.
It's not like they don't know it's happening...


Nope. If not homemade, the database has the hull ID number.
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On Oct 22, 11:21*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:37*am, Tosk wrote:



In article 7d7c2a8d-7445-402e-a63c-6e548cc87289
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On Oct 21, 4:19*pm, bruce@not. wrote:
I bought an old 1977 runabout and want to get it registered in
GA, but the last time it was registered was in FL. So far I
haven't been able to contact the last person who registered it,
or even find out who they are. The GA DNR told me to contact the
FL DNR, but it looks like in FL the DMV handles boat
registration. Can anyone tell me the best way of going about
this?


Thanks for any help!


In GA, if you have a bill of sale from the seller, you're good to go.


Yeah, great for the boat thieves who work in this area. It's
irresponsible of the Georgian govt to allow that to happen so freely.
It's not like they don't know it's happening...


Nope. If not homemade, the database has the hull ID number.


The one they stole up here was "homemade"

http://smallboats.com/boats_cartopper.htm

and had a hin number on the transom and one "hidden" number as
required by law... Either way, I am not saying it's your fault, but
the cops up here were well aware that it probably went to Georgia to
be "cleaned"...
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On Oct 22, 11:31*am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
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On Oct 22, 11:21*am, Loogypicker wrote:





On Oct 22, 10:37*am, Tosk wrote:


In article 7d7c2a8d-7445-402e-a63c-6e548cc87289
@a6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com, says...


On Oct 21, 4:19*pm, bruce@not. wrote:
I bought an old 1977 runabout and want to get it registered in
GA, but the last time it was registered was in FL. So far I
haven't been able to contact the last person who registered it,
or even find out who they are. The GA DNR told me to contact the
FL DNR, but it looks like in FL the DMV handles boat
registration. Can anyone tell me the best way of going about
this?


Thanks for any help!


In GA, if you have a bill of sale from the seller, you're good to go.


Yeah, great for the boat thieves who work in this area. It's
irresponsible of the Georgian govt to allow that to happen so freely.
It's not like they don't know it's happening...


Nope. If not homemade, the database has the hull ID number.


The one they stole up here was "homemade"

http://smallboats.com/boats_cartopper.htm

and had a hin number on the transom and one "hidden" number as
required by law... Either way, I am not saying it's your fault, but
the cops up here were well aware that it probably went to Georgia to
be "cleaned"...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Many, many states do exactly the same. So I guess my question to the
cops would be - How in hell are you "well aware" that it "probably"
went to GA?
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On Oct 22, 11:31*am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:
On Oct 22, 11:21*am, Loogypicker wrote:





On Oct 22, 10:37*am, Tosk wrote:


In article 7d7c2a8d-7445-402e-a63c-6e548cc87289
@a6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com, says...


On Oct 21, 4:19*pm, bruce@not. wrote:
I bought an old 1977 runabout and want to get it registered in
GA, but the last time it was registered was in FL. So far I
haven't been able to contact the last person who registered it,
or even find out who they are. The GA DNR told me to contact the
FL DNR, but it looks like in FL the DMV handles boat
registration. Can anyone tell me the best way of going about
this?


Thanks for any help!


In GA, if you have a bill of sale from the seller, you're good to go.


Yeah, great for the boat thieves who work in this area. It's
irresponsible of the Georgian govt to allow that to happen so freely.
It's not like they don't know it's happening...


Nope. If not homemade, the database has the hull ID number.


The one they stole up here was "homemade"

http://smallboats.com/boats_cartopper.htm

and had a hin number on the transom and one "hidden" number as
required by law... Either way, I am not saying it's your fault, but
the cops up here were well aware that it probably went to Georgia to
be "cleaned"...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Many, many states do exactly the same. So I guess my question to the
cops would be - How in hell are you "well aware" that it "probably"
went to GA?


Hummm wrong guy to ask about cops
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:27:11 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
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On Oct 21, 4:19*pm, bruce@not. wrote:
I bought an old 1977 runabout and want to get it registered in
GA, but the last time it was registered was in FL. So far I
haven't been able to contact the last person who registered it,
or even find out who they are. The GA DNR told me to contact the
FL DNR, but it looks like in FL the DMV handles boat
registration. Can anyone tell me the best way of going about
this?

Thanks for any help!


In GA, if you have a bill of sale from the seller, you're good to go.


Thanks to all of you for your help on this! I called the GA DNR
and told them I have a notorised BOS, so the girl on the phone
began helping me continue with the registration process. Then we
got to the part where she asked me if it was an open boat, or a
cabin, or home made, etc... I told here that I had put a roof
over it and some windows so she put me on hold for a minute, then
came back and said since I did that I would have to apply for a
new hull ID. Can anyone tell me anything about that, and why even
though it's the same hull with the same ID stamped on it I would
have to apply for a new one?


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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:27:11 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Oct 21, 4:19*pm, bruce@not. wrote:
I bought an old 1977 runabout and want to get it registered in
GA, but the last time it was registered was in FL. So far I
haven't been able to contact the last person who registered it,
or even find out who they are. The GA DNR told me to contact the
FL DNR, but it looks like in FL the DMV handles boat
registration. Can anyone tell me the best way of going about
this?

Thanks for any help!


In GA, if you have a bill of sale from the seller, you're good to go.


Thanks to all of you for your help on this! I called the GA DNR
and told them I have a notorised BOS, so the girl on the phone
began helping me continue with the registration process. Then we
got to the part where she asked me if it was an open boat, or a
cabin, or home made, etc... I told here that I had put a roof
over it and some windows so she put me on hold for a minute, then
came back and said since I did that I would have to apply for a
new hull ID. Can anyone tell me anything about that, and why even
though it's the same hull with the same ID stamped on it I would
have to apply for a new one?


Well, I am not from there, but I would imagine you would have to get it
inspected again. When they "inspect" up here, it's mostly to see if the
paperwork is in order, most of the "inspectors" don't really know much
about hull design or manufacture. In fact up here, it's usually the
local game warden who comes out and puts a new number on the vessel.
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:33:23 -0400, bruce@not. wrote:

Thanks to all of you for your help on this! I called the GA DNR
and told them I have a notorised BOS, so the girl on the phone
began helping me continue with the registration process. Then we
got to the part where she asked me if it was an open boat, or a
cabin, or home made, etc... I told here that I had put a roof
over it and some windows so she put me on hold for a minute, then
came back and said since I did that I would have to apply for a
new hull ID. Can anyone tell me anything about that, and why even
though it's the same hull with the same ID stamped on it I would
have to apply for a new one?


You're giving them too much information.

Sounds like they are now going to treat it like a home made boat.

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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:26:56 -0400, Wayne.B
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:33:23 -0400, bruce@not. wrote:

Thanks to all of you for your help on this! I called the GA DNR
and told them I have a notorised BOS, so the girl on the phone
began helping me continue with the registration process. Then we
got to the part where she asked me if it was an open boat, or a
cabin, or home made, etc... I told here that I had put a roof
over it and some windows so she put me on hold for a minute, then
came back and said since I did that I would have to apply for a
new hull ID. Can anyone tell me anything about that, and why even
though it's the same hull with the same ID stamped on it I would
have to apply for a new one?


You're giving them too much information.


I have been cussing myself for that ever since I said
something.

Sounds like they are now going to treat it like a home made boat.


Is there reason they might deny it? It's not overly
heavy...the boat rides high in the water. The max capacity is
1030 and I doubt there are over 500 pounds of material. Also I
removed a couple hundred pounds of seats, padding of various
types and old carpet, so it's in no danger of sinking due to
weight. It also doesn't feel top heavy. Will a person actually
come out to inspect it? If so, what can I do to make it go more
smoothly? What would they be opposed to? It's on a Corp of
Engineers lake, so should I make sure to have a portable toilet
on board or will they even care about any stuff like that?
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:26:56 -0400, Wayne.B
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:33:23 -0400, bruce@not. wrote:

Thanks to all of you for your help on this! I called the GA DNR
and told them I have a notorised BOS, so the girl on the phone
began helping me continue with the registration process. Then we
got to the part where she asked me if it was an open boat, or a
cabin, or home made, etc... I told here that I had put a roof
over it and some windows so she put me on hold for a minute, then
came back and said since I did that I would have to apply for a
new hull ID. Can anyone tell me anything about that, and why even
though it's the same hull with the same ID stamped on it I would
have to apply for a new one?


You're giving them too much information.

Sounds like they are now going to treat it like a home made boat.


That was all my mistake. I thought because I put the roof
over it that might make it a homemade boat, but I just got an
application she sent and it certainly doesn't apply to my roof.
On the form it says:

"built by an individual for personal use from raw materials which
does not require the assignment of a federal hull identification
number by a manufacturer pursuant to federal law."

I guess the best thing would be to call again and say I made a
mistake in thinking it is homemade, and tell them it has a hull
ID from the manufacturer in the upper right corner of the
transom, and see if we can get back to processing from there.
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:26:56 -0400, Wayne.B
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:33:23 -0400, bruce@not. wrote:

Thanks to all of you for your help on this! I called the GA DNR
and told them I have a notorised BOS, so the girl on the phone
began helping me continue with the registration process. Then we
got to the part where she asked me if it was an open boat, or a
cabin, or home made, etc... I told here that I had put a roof
over it and some windows so she put me on hold for a minute, then
came back and said since I did that I would have to apply for a
new hull ID. Can anyone tell me anything about that, and why even
though it's the same hull with the same ID stamped on it I would
have to apply for a new one?


You're giving them too much information.


I have been cussing myself for that ever since I said
something.



Any chance you can go into the DNR, tell them you want to register the boat
in GA., show them the paper work and move on or is the file flagged with the
notes that a top has been added?

JT


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