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Update on boat refurbishing:
Couldn't find "liquid nail" in an exterior grade but did find another manufacturer with a waterproof version of the same sort of stuff. We installed the ceiling in the forward compartment using it. Hopefully it will be satisfactory. I'm into the "ablution" installation phase and currently contemplating the installation of an electric flush toilet. The base of the toilet fixture is located approximately 8 to 10 inches above the water line and there is no necessity for an anti siphon loop in either the inlet or waste lines. I have been considering installing PVC pipes for both inlet and waste lines from the toilet fixture to the seacocks with connection on each end being made with short sections of hose and clamps. Given that the cause of most "head Crashes" is the buildup of deposits, which apparently are mainly caused by urine standing in the lines, and I suspect that with no loop this will not occur in this installation is my plastic piped system likely to be satisfactory? Anyone with experience with a toilet straight out of the boat? (No requirement for a holding tank over here). Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
Update on boat refurbishing: Couldn't find "liquid nail" in an exterior grade but did find another manufacturer with a waterproof version of the same sort of stuff. We installed the ceiling in the forward compartment using it. Hopefully it will be satisfactory. I'm into the "ablution" installation phase and currently contemplating the installation of an electric flush toilet. The base of the toilet fixture is located approximately 8 to 10 inches above the water line and there is no necessity for an anti siphon loop in either the inlet or waste lines. I have been considering installing PVC pipes for both inlet and waste lines from the toilet fixture to the seacocks with connection on each end being made with short sections of hose and clamps. Given that the cause of most "head Crashes" is the buildup of deposits, which apparently are mainly caused by urine standing in the lines, and I suspect that with no loop this will not occur in this installation is my plastic piped system likely to be satisfactory? Anyone with experience with a toilet straight out of the boat? (No requirement for a holding tank over here). Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) Bruce, A moments pause here? Is that 8 to 10 inches above the waterline - heeled? |
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:17:39 -0500, cavelamb
wrote: Bruce In Bangkok wrote: Update on boat refurbishing: Couldn't find "liquid nail" in an exterior grade but did find another manufacturer with a waterproof version of the same sort of stuff. We installed the ceiling in the forward compartment using it. Hopefully it will be satisfactory. I'm into the "ablution" installation phase and currently contemplating the installation of an electric flush toilet. The base of the toilet fixture is located approximately 8 to 10 inches above the water line and there is no necessity for an anti siphon loop in either the inlet or waste lines. I have been considering installing PVC pipes for both inlet and waste lines from the toilet fixture to the seacocks with connection on each end being made with short sections of hose and clamps. Given that the cause of most "head Crashes" is the buildup of deposits, which apparently are mainly caused by urine standing in the lines, and I suspect that with no loop this will not occur in this installation is my plastic piped system likely to be satisfactory? Anyone with experience with a toilet straight out of the boat? (No requirement for a holding tank over here). Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) Bruce, A moments pause here? Is that 8 to 10 inches above the waterline - heeled? Errrr.... it's a powerboat. Hopefully it won't get heeled very much :-) Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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....(No requirement for a holding tank over here).
Now that most of us are cognizant of our environmental impact and responsibilities, shouldn't you install a holding tank anyway? MW Los Angeles |
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:23:46 -0700 (PDT), Mike Worrall
wrote: ...(No requirement for a holding tank over here). Now that most of us are cognizant of our environmental impact and responsibilities, shouldn't you install a holding tank anyway? MW Los Angeles Why? If I understand correctly, US regs allow the dumping of raw sewage 3 miles out to sea. If this is true what is the environmental impact of my not having a holding tank? And if I did install one what do you think I should do with the tank after it is full? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Oct 20, 6:24*am, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote: And if I did install one what do you think I should do with the tank after it is full? If you consider the effect of 60,000 whales dumping in the sea, what is a few thousand boats going to do......not much. This is one of those times when the greenies have gone way overboard. Dumping in a marina where there is little circulation doesnt make sense and dumping in a freshwater lake that is used for human consumption doesnt make sense, but anywhere else the impact is minimal to non existent. |
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Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:23:46 -0700 (PDT), Mike Worrall wrote: ...(No requirement for a holding tank over here). Now that most of us are cognizant of our environmental impact and responsibilities, shouldn't you install a holding tank anyway? MW Los Angeles Why? If I understand correctly, US regs allow the dumping of raw sewage 3 miles out to sea. If this is true what is the environmental impact of my not having a holding tank? And if I did install one what do you think I should do with the tank after it is full? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) Take it 3 miles out and dump it. |
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"jim.isbell" wrote in message ... On Oct 20, 6:24 am, Bruce In Bangkok wrote: And if I did install one what do you think I should do with the tank after it is full? If you consider the effect of 60,000 whales dumping in the sea, what is a few thousand boats going to do......not much. This is one of those times when the greenies have gone way overboard. Dumping in a marina where there is little circulation doesnt make sense and dumping in a freshwater lake that is used for human consumption doesnt make sense, but anywhere else the impact is minimal to non existent. ______________ Really big diapers? |
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Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:23:46 -0700 (PDT), Mike Worrall wrote: ...(No requirement for a holding tank over here). Now that most of us are cognizant of our environmental impact and responsibilities, shouldn't you install a holding tank anyway? MW Los Angeles Why? If I understand correctly, US regs allow the dumping of raw sewage 3 miles out to sea. If this is true what is the environmental impact of my not having a holding tank? And if I did install one what do you think I should do with the tank after it is full? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) Victoria, BC is still dumping 38 million gallons per day of raw sewage in the Straits of Juan de Fuca. Doesn't seem to hurt a thing. Gordon |
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:43:32 -0700, Jim wrote:
Bruce In Bangkok wrote: On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:23:46 -0700 (PDT), Mike Worrall wrote: ...(No requirement for a holding tank over here). Now that most of us are cognizant of our environmental impact and responsibilities, shouldn't you install a holding tank anyway? MW Los Angeles Why? If I understand correctly, US regs allow the dumping of raw sewage 3 miles out to sea. If this is true what is the environmental impact of my not having a holding tank? And if I did install one what do you think I should do with the tank after it is full? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) Take it 3 miles out and dump it. I suggest that you are unfamiliar with the conditions in this area. My anchorage is located in a channel between Phuket Island and the Mainland. the tides run at approximately 3 knots during the height of the flow. The entire channel is swept (normally) twice daily, into the Indian Ocean to the West and Phang Nga Bay toward the East. On both the coast of Phuket and Phang Nga are villages, all of which have runoff from shrimp farms, sewage systems, fertilizer and miscellaneous fish processing plants, etc., it seems far fetched to suggest that I and my wife are adding significantly to any existing contamination. Further, I might add that the marina has a much higher fish concentration that other parts of the channel - makes you wonder what fish eat? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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