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Former sailboat owners tell why they switched to powerboats and how much
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http://www.motorboating.com/articleH...?ID=1000065935
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I know it's true, a motor boating magaizine told me so!
I know a few people that made the swap and their reasons were that they had
gotten too old for the activities required to sail. Their words not mine.


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Former sailboat owners tell why they switched to powerboats and how much
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http://www.motorboating.com/articleH...?ID=1000065935
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I know it's true, a motor boating magaizine told me so!
I know a few people that made the swap and their reasons were that they
had gotten too old for the activities required to sail. Their words not
mine.



It is not a question of age -it is a question of how strong and fit they
have succeeded in remaining.
Anyway, the article does not prove anything except that Florida is a
retirement area and also not sailboat friendly.
I think a big part of that is that a decent sailboat draws too much water.
I imported a very fine sailboat from Florida which was a good deal for me
because the guy bought it up north and immediately spent a lot of money on
it before discovering that 7' draft rather limits his options in Florida..
They even ran her aground during the survey while going to the shipyard to
haul her out for me.
7' draft is no problem at all in Norway and I do not need to worry about
meeting heavy weather with over 3 tonnes of lead down there


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Former sailboat owners tell why they switched to powerboats and how much
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http://www.motorboating.com/articleH...?ID=1000065935
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I know it's true, a motor boating magaizine told me so!
I know a few people that made the swap and their reasons were that they
had gotten too old for the activities required to sail. Their words not
mine.



It is not a question of age -it is a question of how strong and fit they
have succeeded in remaining.
Anyway, the article does not prove anything except that Florida is a
retirement area and also not sailboat friendly.
I think a big part of that is that a decent sailboat draws too much water.
I imported a very fine sailboat from Florida which was a good deal for me
because the guy bought it up north and immediately spent a lot of money on
it before discovering that 7' draft rather limits his options in Florida..
They even ran her aground during the survey while going to the shipyard to
haul her out for me.
7' draft is no problem at all in Norway and I do not need to worry about
meeting heavy weather with over 3 tonnes of lead down there

I guess the definition of "decent sailboat" would vary depending on the
sailor and his use for the boat. I had a 17 Boston Whaler "Supercat", a lot
like a Nacra catamaran that drew about 4 inches with the rudders up and was
great for sailing the Indian River Lagoon. Then a 21' Catalina that was also
great in the river. After, a couple (1963, then 1973) 35' Chris Craft
sailboats that were much better ocean than river sailors with each having a
4'2" draft. But I could do the river if the wind was right.
In my 20 years living and sailing in Florida, I've found that Florida is
very sailboat friendly. Maybe not for the kind of keel needed for the North
Atlantic though!


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"jlrogers±³©" wrote
Former sailboat owners tell why they switched to powerboats and how much
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http://www.motorboating.com/articleH...?ID=1000065935
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Well, I enjoy our powerboat quite a lot, but it's not like the ones in
that magazine article.


"mmc" wrote:
I know it's true, a motor boating magaizine told me so!
I know a few people that made the swap and their reasons were that they had
gotten too old for the activities required to sail. Their words not mine.


It's not necessarily a question of being "too old," it's a question of
what you want to do versus what the boat(s) in question are capable
of. The main thing that motorboats do better is cover more area in a
given period of time.... they go faster (duh). Even a slow trawler
like ours runs at 7 knots easily & comfortably... and thru 4' deep
water, more importantly from our point of view... and if you ever make
a passage like that in a 36' cruising sailboat, you brag about it for
the rest of your life. But most powerboaters want to go significantly
faster than that,even. So if you want to get to Point X within Time Y,
power makes a lot more sense than sail.

If you love to sail, then a powerboat is not what you want. That's why
I have both!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


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Former sailboat owners tell why they switched to powerboats and how much
they enjoy them.
http://www.motorboating.com/articleH...?ID=1000065935
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Well, I enjoy our powerboat quite a lot, but it's not like the ones in
that magazine article.


"mmc" wrote:
I know it's true, a motor boating magaizine told me so!
I know a few people that made the swap and their reasons were that they
had
gotten too old for the activities required to sail. Their words not mine.


It's not necessarily a question of being "too old," it's a question of
what you want to do versus what the boat(s) in question are capable
of. The main thing that motorboats do better is cover more area in a
given period of time.... they go faster (duh). Even a slow trawler
like ours runs at 7 knots easily & comfortably... and thru 4' deep
water, more importantly from our point of view... and if you ever make
a passage like that in a 36' cruising sailboat, you brag about it for
the rest of your life. But most powerboaters want to go significantly
faster than that,even. So if you want to get to Point X within Time Y,
power makes a lot more sense than sail.

If you love to sail, then a powerboat is not what you want. That's why
I have both!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Doug,
We also have both power and sail.
When I want to just get out on the water and enjoy the day, I sail. With no
destination; just enjoying the boat, the motion, the quiet and the fact that
we have the age old facilities to get from one place to another without an
engine- doing something that requires a little more skill than filling out a
credit application. While sailing my little 41 year old Morgan, speed is not
an issue.
Our other boat is a pontoon that we use for getting from point a to point b.
Generally when we don't have the better part of the day to be on the water.
The pontoon is pretty slow compared to a lot of power boats, I think it tops
out about 22 knots, which is fine for what we use it for.
My point in responding at all is that sailing isn't dead- no matter what the
stinkpot magazine said!
Both our boats are old, the pontoon being a 1997 and require little $$ to
keep them up- bought both cash so no payments. Life is good.


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"Edgar" wrote:
Well, I suppose it is not a 'powerboat' as generally understood in this ng,
but I do also have a motorboat as well as my sailboat.
She is 22' long and clinker built by my father in 1918 in English elm, a
wood which has an indefinite life in salt water.
I give her plenty of tlc because she will soon be 100 years old even if I am
not around to see that anniversary.
Originally she had a U.S. made Atlantic twin cylinder engine which was
relatively large for its power (7/8 hp?)as it only ran at about 600 rpm.
During the ar she was commandeered by the Royal Navy and used for taking
sailors to and from their ships in harbour.
The family got her back after the war but sadly without the original engine.
She is on her second engine since then and has much more power than before
and can run easily at about 6 knots.
Norwegians love vintage cars and classic wooden boats and mine got onto the
front page of the local paper when I brought her here.


I love vintage boats too, you tell us all that and then torment us by
not showing a photo!!

With less than 2' draft I can explore all sorts of places no sailboat can
enter.


I dunno, our last sailboat could go in less than 2' of water but not
much less. I wouldn't do it in places whewre there were rocks &
such...come to think of it, wood hulls & bronze props don't like rocks
much either.... And I have not doubt at all that your Dad's motor
launch is a *much* better looking boat than that sailboat was. Ah
well, everything's a compromise!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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"Edgar" wrote:
Well, I suppose it is not a 'powerboat' as generally understood in this
ng,
but I do also have a motorboat as well as my sailboat.
She is 22' long and clinker built by my father in 1918 in English elm, a
wood which has an indefinite life in salt water.
I give her plenty of tlc because she will soon be 100 years old even if I
am
not around to see that anniversary.
Originally she had a U.S. made Atlantic twin cylinder engine which was
relatively large for its power (7/8 hp?)as it only ran at about 600 rpm.
During the ar she was commandeered by the Royal Navy and used for taking
sailors to and from their ships in harbour.
The family got her back after the war but sadly without the original
engine.
She is on her second engine since then and has much more power than
before
and can run easily at about 6 knots.
Norwegians love vintage cars and classic wooden boats and mine got onto
the
front page of the local paper when I brought her here.


I love vintage boats too, you tell us all that and then torment us by
not showing a photo!!


I will sort some out and come back to you shortly...


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Former sailboat owners tell why they switched to powerboats and how much
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Sailboats are inherently dangerous, more so than powerboats. At a point in
some people's lives the risk is much greater than the return or their
objectives are greater than what a sailboat can provide. At least these
people can still go out enjoy yachting aboard their Krogen 57s and other
brand new, high end yachts. It's a matter of convenience. A pilothouse
sailboat is a good stepping stone to a full blown motor yacht.




 
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