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On 10 Sep 2008 19:22:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:02:28 -0400, said:

No. "Like it is" would be providing a cite to back up your specious
claim. You are telling it "like you imagine in your fantasies". Obama
never said what you claim he said. You are, in fact, just making ****
up. You got caught.

So you claim his plan does not call for giving "refundable tax credits" to
people who don't pay taxes?

I haven't claimed anything. You have. And it's obviously you were
making it up, since you can't point to a reliable source where Obama
said what you claimed. Put the shovel down, Dave.

Capt. JG

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On 10 Sep 2008 19:22:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:02:28 -0400, said:

No. "Like it is" would be providing a cite to back up your specious
claim. You are telling it "like you imagine in your fantasies". Obama
never said what you claim he said. You are, in fact, just making ****
up. You got caught.

So you claim his plan does not call for giving "refundable tax credits" to
people who don't pay taxes?

I haven't claimed anything. You have. And it's obviously you were
making it up, since you can't point to a reliable source where Obama
said what you claimed. Put the shovel down, Dave.

Hey, he likes to dig.... it's almost entertaining.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Jeff

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On 11 Sep 2008 09:54:02 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:26:19 -0400, said:

I haven't claimed anything. You have. And it's obviously you were
making it up, since you can't point to a reliable source where Obama
said what you claimed.
What I've said is that Obama's plan includes handing out money to people who
pay no taxes, calling those handouts "refundable tax credits" and trying to
take credit for them as tax reductions. Them's the facts. You dispute them?

There's nothing to dispute until you provide a cite that suppotrst
what you claimed. Until you can do that, you are making stuff up.

It is clearly stated on the Obama web site, and any site that fairly
describes the plans, and anyone who has considered even briefly the
competing tax proposals would appreciate this feature. The one aspect
that hasn't been mentioned is that you have to actually work to get the
credit, so it isn't quite a "welfare payment" as a "negative tax" on low
income workers.

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