Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Gordon" wrote in message
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Joe wrote:
If you have not seen this, it's a eye opener for some.

http://www.shiftingbaselines.org/sli...istine_hi.html

Joe

Pure Al Gore type BS.
Gordon

The little presentation defeats its own argument. How? It uses today as a
baseline of how different things were in past years than they are today. It
assumes that today's baseline is abnormal and yesterday's is normal.
Further, it selects images from today vs. images of yesterday selected
specifically to show great differences. Photos of large game fish vs. photos
of smaller fish. Sparse reefs vs. teaming reefs. Were there no pictures of
people holding up smaller fish in years past? No pictures of sparse reefs?
Certainly there were so why didn't they select those photos? It's because
those photos would not further their agenda. It's all about agenda and any
intelligent person should realize that. Pictures lie!

Hey Neal, get out of that trailer and take a road trip. Journey to
Newfoundland, (you'll have to get on ferry, you'll get more sea time in
one day than you've accumulated in the last twenty years). Stop at few
of the villages on the Atlantic as you drive around the island. While
you're there, ask the folks why there are so few fishing boats about and
why what few are there are tied up in the local harbour. Ask them to
tell you how much cod was available in the Grand Banks during the '30s.

Oh, and don't be as obnoxious there as you are on this group; while the
Newfies are just about the friendliest bunch of folks you're likely to
find on the planet, they don't like bull**** and they don't mind
clocking someone who desperately deserves it.


Cheers
Marty

While
you're there, ask the folks why there are so few fishing boats about and
why what few are there are tied up in the local harbour.

Because they overfished the waters. TANSTAAFL and now they're paying the
price.

Bill Kearney wrote:
While
you're there, ask the folks why there are so few fishing boats about and
why what few are there are tied up in the local harbour.

Because they overfished the waters. TANSTAAFL and now they're paying the
price.



Exactly.

Cheers
Marty

Bill Kearney wrote:

While
you're there, ask the folks why there are so few fishing boats about and
why what few are there are tied up in the local harbour.


Because they overfished the waters. TANSTAAFL and now they're paying the
price.


I can't decide if the Black River polution problem is completely
cleared, or if it has caused some - mutation???

1000 pound sturgeon!

http://vets.yuku.com/topic/9836

On Nov 13, 9:19 pm, cavelamb himself wrote:

I can't decide if the Black River polution problem is completely
cleared, or if it has caused some - mutation???

1000 pound sturgeon!


Hi
As I mentined before here, my sweedish step dad commercial fished off
the OR-WA coast in the late 50s up to 1980. When I was a about 10 it
was not unusuall for him to bring home green sturgon that half would
hang out the bed of a pickup: 500 lbs was about right, We never though
anything diffrent. Just ate lots of sturgon and traded it.

But the big ones were on display at the Bonneville Fish hatchery. But
my uncles worked on the Columbia river when the Dalles Damn was built
1940s Thats where they say the really big river sturgon. When some
rock was blasted for the Damn 16'+ fish were floating to the top.

Kinda like killing a readwood. takes a long time to grow one.

So have a seen change in my life, yup

WHat have I learned....... Repubicans have no respect for the past.
They are like spoild children who only want immediate gratification
and do not care, respect, or regard the past or futre. They call it
other things.... but actions speak lounder than their words. Just look
at the results of their actins and yo will see a self serving spoild
brat.
Bob