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AeroRig?
Interesting rigging that I stumbled across looking at this boat:
http://www.luxist.com/2007/09/05/mona-lisa-yacht/ Can't find much about it except for this: http://www.yachtprojectsetc.com/AeroRig/index.html Anyone know more about it? |
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Been around for 6 years or more. Idea is no tacking of jib and as the
photo shows easy to do wing on wing downwind. I think part of the sales pitch is also the fact it weathervanes if you want when you stop the boat. |
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On Sep 8, 7:49 pm, Ringmaster wrote:
Been around for 6 years or more. Idea is no tacking of jib and as the photo shows easy to do wing on wing downwind. I think part of the sales pitch is also the fact it weathervanes if you want when you stop the boat. As usual, being ignorant will never stop Sloco from opening his sewer- like pie hole. The Aerorig's main idea is simplicity: One sheet controls both sails and the slot is optimum all the time. It's free standing. There have been some horror stories about the design sold via Carbospars. One boat claimed the rig was badly designed on their boat and was tossed. The boom/mast axis is considerably massive and not very attractive. They claim a BIG increase in sailing effeciency and I don't doubt that this rig will maintain it's power with less hassle, but it's just a bit odd. http://pws.prserv.net/c-m/ML-fs/100_0031RGB-web.jpg We have one boat with this rig in the area and the owner is pretty happy with it. The hull is a Aluminum one that I've seen before, 42'. RB 35s5 NY |
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On Sep 7, 4:23 pm, Fuzzy Logic wrote:
Interesting rigging that I stumbled across looking at this boat: http://www.luxist.com/2007/09/05/mona-lisa-yacht/ Can't find much about it except for this: http://www.yachtprojectsetc.com/AeroRig/index.html Anyone know more about it? What do you want to know about the boat? Or is it the rig that interests you? I have the full specs on the boat at home on a pdf file. I was impressed with the boat and if I had money to burn and wanted to sail the arctic where it was cold as heck and I didn't want to spent much time on deck, I'd say it would be a good choice for that application. If I had that kind of money to burn I can think of many other better choices for boats better suited to warmer waters and performance sailing. I take it they still haven't sold it? If you look back a few years on the newsgroup, I posted a link on the boat and there was a short discussion of the boat. There was a discussion on Aero Rigs around that time and also farther back it time. Search this alt.sailing.asa on "Aero Rig Expedition Yacht" "New ligher wishbone design for the Aero-Rig" It is a two stateroom layout, ocean cruiser, that is easy to sail and Arctic capable. It is Aluminum. Lux interior--top shelf. It has a small workshops as I recall. Also, you might want to be cautious about those dual helm yachts. I find the helm can get sloppy. I prefer a single wheel. Oh and it never was listed at over 2 million. The price has held constant at just under 2 million since I first saw the boat for sale some years back. I think it might have been reduce to 1.7M for a while--I can't remember the details. In any event, the price is pretty steep for a boat that size with only two cabins and comfortable for only two couples. Regarding the Aero Rig. It is a neat setup for a solo sailor, or older couple that don't want to kill themselves wrestling sails around in a conventional rig. The attributes of the rig were well analyzed in previous discussions. |
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Bart wrote in news:1189658426.412665.318710
@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com: On Sep 7, 4:23 pm, Fuzzy Logic wrote: Interesting rigging that I stumbled across looking at this boat: http://www.luxist.com/2007/09/05/mona-lisa-yacht/ Can't find much about it except for this: http://www.yachtprojectsetc.com/AeroRig/index.html Anyone know more about it? What do you want to know about the boat? Or is it the rig that interests you? I have the full specs on the boat at home on a pdf file. I was impressed with the boat and if I had money to burn and wanted to sail the arctic where it was cold as heck and I didn't want to spent much time on deck, I'd say it would be a good choice for that application. If I had that kind of money to burn I can think of many other better choices for boats better suited to warmer waters and performance sailing. I take it they still haven't sold it? If you look back a few years on the newsgroup, I posted a link on the boat and there was a short discussion of the boat. There was a discussion on Aero Rigs around that time and also farther back it time. Search this alt.sailing.asa on "Aero Rig Expedition Yacht" "New ligher wishbone design for the Aero-Rig" It is a two stateroom layout, ocean cruiser, that is easy to sail and Arctic capable. It is Aluminum. Lux interior--top shelf. It has a small workshops as I recall. Also, you might want to be cautious about those dual helm yachts. I find the helm can get sloppy. I prefer a single wheel. Oh and it never was listed at over 2 million. The price has held constant at just under 2 million since I first saw the boat for sale some years back. I think it might have been reduce to 1.7M for a while--I can't remember the details. In any event, the price is pretty steep for a boat that size with only two cabins and comfortable for only two couples. Regarding the Aero Rig. It is a neat setup for a solo sailor, or older couple that don't want to kill themselves wrestling sails around in a conventional rig. The attributes of the rig were well analyzed in previous discussions. There is plenty of info on the boat (it's a beauty). It's the first I've seen of this type of rigging and I would curious to know more about it especially the claim of 40% more power over conventional rigging. I had heard there were issues with the manufacturer (Carbospars) as well. |
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On Sep 13, 2:17 pm, Fuzzy Logic wrote:
Bart wrote in news:1189658426.412665.318710 @r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com: On Sep 7, 4:23 pm, Fuzzy Logic wrote: Interesting rigging that I stumbled across looking at this boat: http://www.luxist.com/2007/09/05/mona-lisa-yacht/ Can't find much about it except for this: http://www.yachtprojectsetc.com/AeroRig/index.html Anyone know more about it? What do you want to know about the boat? Or is it the rig that interests you? I have the full specs on the boat at home on a pdf file. I was impressed with the boat and if I had money to burn and wanted to sail the arctic where it was cold as heck and I didn't want to spent much time on deck, I'd say it would be a good choice for that application. If I had that kind of money to burn I can think of many other better choices for boats better suited to warmer waters and performance sailing. I take it they still haven't sold it? If you look back a few years on the newsgroup, I posted a link on the boat and there was a short discussion of the boat. There was a discussion on Aero Rigs around that time and also farther back it time. Search this alt.sailing.asa on "Aero Rig Expedition Yacht" "New ligher wishbone design for the Aero-Rig" It is a two stateroom layout, ocean cruiser, that is easy to sail and Arctic capable. It is Aluminum. Lux interior--top shelf. It has a small workshops as I recall. Also, you might want to be cautious about those dual helm yachts. I find the helm can get sloppy. I prefer a single wheel. Oh and it never was listed at over 2 million. The price has held constant at just under 2 million since I first saw the boat for sale some years back. I think it might have been reduce to 1.7M for a while--I can't remember the details. In any event, the price is pretty steep for a boat that size with only two cabins and comfortable for only two couples. Regarding the Aero Rig. It is a neat setup for a solo sailor, or older couple that don't want to kill themselves wrestling sails around in a conventional rig. The attributes of the rig were well analyzed in previous discussions. There is plenty of info on the boat (it's a beauty). It's the first I've seen of this type of rigging and I would curious to know more about it especially the claim of 40% more power over conventional rigging. I had heard there were issues with the manufacturer (Carbospars) as well. I'd like an opportunity to sail one to see how it performs. It is a sweet boat and would make a top choice to ride out a storm. For contrasts sake. Check out this boat. It is a Contest 41. For around $160k, you get a boat with a similar layout that will get you wherever you want to you safely. http://commercial.boatshed.com/conte...oat-17720.html or http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...ck&searchtype= |
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Bart wrote
Regarding the Aero Rig. It is a neat setup for a solo sailor, or older couple that don't want to kill themselves wrestling sails around in a conventional rig. IMHO there are less unwieldy options... the Chinese lug rig, for example. Another would be a roller-furl staysail schooner. ... The attributes of the rig were well analyzed in previous discussions. Fuzzy Logic wrote: There is plenty of info on the boat (it's a beauty). It's the first I've seen of this type of rigging and I would curious to know more about it especially the claim of 40% more power over conventional rigging. I had heard there were issues with the manufacturer (Carbospars) as well. 40% more power? That's nonsense, not even wing sails gain that much. The AeroRig has been around for years and just isn't catching on.... I assume for some good reasons. If it were even 5% more efficient then you'd see racing boats winning with them. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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wrote in message oups.com.. .. Bart wrote Regarding the Aero Rig. It is a neat setup for a solo sailor, or older couple that don't want to kill themselves wrestling sails around in a conventional rig. IMHO there are less unwieldy options... the Chinese lug rig, for example. Another would be a roller-furl staysail schooner. ... The attributes of the rig were well analyzed in previous discussions. Fuzzy Logic wrote: There is plenty of info on the boat (it's a beauty). It's the first I've seen of this type of rigging and I would curious to know more about it especially the claim of 40% more power over conventional rigging. I had heard there were issues with the manufacturer (Carbospars) as well. 40% more power? That's nonsense, not even wing sails gain that much. The AeroRig has been around for years and just isn't catching on.... I assume for some good reasons. If it were even 5% more efficient then you'd see racing boats winning with them. ''especially the claim of 40% more power over conventional rigging'' by conventional rigging , they must have meant square sails made of canvas. Scotty |
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If it were even 5% more efficient then
you'd see racing boats winning with them. It's amazing how people just can't read or comprehend a thing anymore. The AeroRig's improved efficiency is about typical cruising situations where it will maintain better trim than most sailors bother with. It aint all about racing, you blazingly dumb putz. A powerful rig means little if you have to mess with it constantly to keep it in a good groove. The word "forgiving" in sailboat design has a lot to do with this relative to sustained performance, you brainless dick-headed baby gorillla. RB 35s5 NY |
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Hahaha... You just remined me why we are gone! Thanks dog.
Barb s/v Arabella www.sailinglinks.com On Sep 16, 7:36 pm, wrote: A lawyer for the BGDL (Baby Gorilla defense league) will be contacting you shortly.- |
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