On Aug 31, 7:44 am, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
On Aug 31, 2:48 am, Bart wrote:

Swabbie, you have to sail one design to be
in a real sailboat race.

Bart, I really do agree with that. That said, a J29 Frac with OB vs. a
J27 is a pretty close match as far as the hulls go.
My point is that, beyond developing some skills on ones own tub, PHRF
racing is NOT real racing and that's all Sloco can really do because
he doesn't own a J35 or J24.

RB
35s5
NY

I think you missed my point. It was a subtle recommendation
for you to go out and race some one design. Do that for many
years in many positions, and then you too will be able to talk with
authority on the subject.

If you start now and race two or three days a week, you might
be able to catch up to sloco's experience. I have no doubt he
can sail circles around you.

"Bart" wrote in message
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On Aug 31, 7:44 am, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
On Aug 31, 2:48 am, Bart wrote:

Swabbie, you have to sail one design to be
in a real sailboat race.

Bart, I really do agree with that. That said, a J29 Frac with OB vs. a
J27 is a pretty close match as far as the hulls go.
My point is that, beyond developing some skills on ones own tub, PHRF
racing is NOT real racing and that's all Sloco can really do because
he doesn't own a J35 or J24.

RB
35s5
NY

I think you missed my point. It was a subtle recommendation
for you to go out and race some one design. Do that for many
years in many positions, and then you too will be able to talk with
authority on the subject.

If you start now and race two or three days a week, you might
be able to catch up to sloco's experience. I have no doubt he
can sail circles around you.



I suspect it wouldn't take someone with sloco's vast experience to do that.
:-)


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,On Aug 31, 10:23?pm, Bart wrote:
I think you missed my point. .

The Boob always misses the point. He never gets it.

I think you missed my point. It was a subtle recommendation
for you to go out and race some one design.



Oh, so you believe that Sloco's PHRF racing is on the same level as
One Design racing?
I see.



RB
35s5
NY

The Boob always misses the point. He never gets it.



Actually.....I'm the point. And that's why you end up in the pot more
often than not.



RB
35s5
NY

I have no doubt he
can sail circles around you.



I have serious doubts that any of you sail enough for that to mean
anything. 5 years ago I drew on the vast experience of friends who do
regular crossings and race one design. I bet you heard or even know a
few of them, Bart. I still learn from them, but they would certainly
tell you that I can trim a boat nicely handle the helm. I'd love to
see Sloco sail circles around me since no one else can. In a race
around the buoys he'd probably win since I don't race and could care
less.
So your point means little and I truly think Sloco knows **** about
boats. Like Doug, he walks around thinking he's a vast store house of
sailing knowledge. But like most sailors, he has opinions about stuff
he doesn't know much about. I know people who have designed sails,
built boats they crossed an ocean with and make a real life of
sailing. The fellow who sold me my 35s5 has sailed around the world,
sailed Turner's boat during the Fastnet disaster and is now building a
boat. I'll sail with him next month. It's funny how guys like that
don't have time to post here. He's read these forums and found them
funny as hell.
With a couple of exceptions (Such as Joe who's had professional time
at sea and owns a serious passage maker) you're all weekend warriors
and not too good at that. Bart, get real. You've been working on that
boat...a lovely Ericson I think, for how long? We had a guy come into
the yard last season and he bought a pretty far gone Valliant 40. The
boat needed everything, including blister work and keel damage repair.
He refit that boat in half a season and sailed it home to Ireland.
You've been fixing that thing for YEARS.
Sloco is probably a good PHRF sailor. He's obviously impressed with
himself about it. But he's also a trailer trash asswipe and I like
pointing it out as often as possible!


RB
35s5
NY

I think you hit a nerve, Bart.



"Capt. **** Head" wrote in message
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I have no doubt he
can sail circles around you.

Boo Hoo Hoo

I have serious doubts that any of you sail enough for that
to mean
anything. 5 years ago I drew on the vast experience of
friends who do
regular crossings and race one design. I bet you heard or
even know a
few of them, Bart. I still learn from them, but they would
certainly
tell you that I can trim a boat nicely handle the helm.
I'd love to
see Sloco sail circles around me since no one else can. In
a race
around the buoys he'd probably win since I don't race and
could care
less.
So your point means little and I truly think Sloco knows
**** about
boats. Like Doug, he walks around thinking he's a vast
store house of
sailing knowledge. But like most sailors, he has opinions
about stuff
he doesn't know much about. I know people who have
designed sails,
built boats they crossed an ocean with and make a real
life of
sailing. The fellow who sold me my 35s5 has sailed around
the world,
sailed Turner's boat during the Fastnet disaster and is
now building a
boat. I'll sail with him next month. It's funny how guys
like that
don't have time to post here. He's read these forums and
found them
funny as hell.
With a couple of exceptions (Such as Joe who's had
professional time
at sea and owns a serious passage maker) you're all
weekend warriors
and not too good at that. Bart, get real. You've been
working on that
boat...a lovely Ericson I think, for how long? We had a
guy come into
the yard last season and he bought a pretty far gone
Valliant 40. The
boat needed everything, including blister work and keel
damage repair.
He refit that boat in half a season and sailed it home to
Ireland.
You've been fixing that thing for YEARS.
Sloco is probably a good PHRF sailor. He's obviously
impressed with
himself about it. But he's also a trailer trash asswipe
and I like
pointing it out as often as possible!

Boo Hoo
RB
35s5
NY
Boo Hoo

"Capt. **** Head" wrote in message
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I



I have serious doubts

about yourself?




I know people who have designed sails,
built boats they crossed an ocean with and make a real
life of
sailing. The fellow who sold me my 35s5 has sailed around
the world,
sailed Turner's boat during the Fastnet disaster and is
now building a
boat.


Ahhh, I see,...you're a sailor by ASSociation.

Ahhh, I see,...you're a sailor by ASSociation.



You ARE associated with me, yes.



RB
35s5
NY

I'd love to see Sloco sail circles around me since no one else
can. In a race around the buoys he'd probably win since I don't race
and could care less.

Care less? Didn't this guy just post that he was in a "real race"?
Trumpeting that he beat up on a 27 footer with a 29 footer while
claiming they were close in performance. Oh, that's right there was
no starting line or pre start or upwind turn or tacking or jibing
or........................ It was just a drag race between a 29
footer and a 27 footer. That's how it's done in the Matrix.

35s5................ Quick in the Matrix.