The solution to forgetting to stow your fenders and sailing with them
hanging alongside is a simple one.

Get rid of the fenders altogether. You don't need them. Even in a slip,
provided you tie up correctly, you don't need them. If you're insecure
about your boat hitting the pier or pilings secure the fenders to the
structures and not to your boat.

But, everybody knows keeping your boat in a slip is almost as lame as
sailing with fenders hanging. Real sailors keep their boats anchored or
on a mooring. This is one more of the many things the good Capt. Neal is
right about. Isn't it about time you all started doing things HIS way.
(except for his problem with colors)

Wilbur Hubbard

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
The solution to forgetting to stow your fenders and sailing with them
hanging alongside is a simple one.

Get rid of the fenders altogether. You don't need them. Even in a slip,
provided you tie up correctly, you don't need them. If you're insecure
about your boat hitting the pier or pilings secure the fenders to the
structures and not to your boat.

But, everybody knows keeping your boat in a slip is almost as lame as
sailing with fenders hanging. Real sailors keep their boats anchored or on
a mooring. This is one more of the many things the good Capt. Neal is
right about. Isn't it about time you all started doing things HIS way.
(except for his problem with colors)

Wilbur Hubbard

In my case, the slip is a double wide, with no pilings between our boats. I
can tie up on one side of the boat only, and the bow. How would you keep
that boat from blowing into the dock? I might tie off the fenders at the
floating dock, but only a fool would leave his boat unprotected.
As for the mooring, I'd love to have one in protected waters. Around here,
the only moorings I've seen were subjected to the worst conditions, with
their masts swinging wildly and nonstop. When I want solitude and
relaxation, I'll stick with an anchor.
Scout

Ignore the Hubbard sockpuppet, Scout.
Fenders in a slip are a good idea simply because a dock cleat can be
damaged and it's very nice to be able to snug the boat to the dock
when you're working on her and the fenders are ready.
As for slips vs. moorings, slips can be a lot safer depending on the
area. In my area moorings are the poor man's solution. We are the ONLY
major marina on City Island. When a series of bad storms came through
only boats on moorings were damaged, hit by lightening and other boats
and so on. Our marina was not damaged at all. Hubbard, having no boat,
is probably to lazy to tie up a boat properly. He's also too lazy to
know that when a blow is coming you need to get down to the boat and
add safety lines.
People in slips care more about their boats and it shows.


RB
35s5
NY

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
The solution to forgetting to stow your fenders and sailing with them
hanging alongside is a simple one.

Get rid of the fenders altogether. You don't need them. Even in a slip,
provided you tie up correctly, you don't need them. If you're insecure
about your boat hitting the pier or pilings secure the fenders to the
structures and not to your boat.

But, everybody knows keeping your boat in a slip is almost as lame as
sailing with fenders hanging. Real sailors keep their boats anchored or
on a mooring. This is one more of the many things the good Capt. Neal is
right about. Isn't it about time you all started doing things HIS way.
(except for his problem with colors)

Wilbur Hubbard

In my case, the slip is a double wide, with no pilings between our boats.
I can tie up on one side of the boat only, and the bow. How would you keep
that boat from blowing into the dock? I might tie off the fenders at the
floating dock, but only a fool would leave his boat unprotected.
As for the mooring, I'd love to have one in protected waters. Around here,
the only moorings I've seen were subjected to the worst conditions, with
their masts swinging wildly and nonstop. When I want solitude and
relaxation, I'll stick with an anchor.
Scout

You should probably ignore Neal, aka Wilber. Fenders are the right thing to
do.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. **** Head" wrote in message
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As for slips vs. moorings, slips can be a lot safer

TOTAL BULL ****!

On Jul 16, 1:27 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Scout" wrote in message

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
tanews.com...
The solution to forgetting to stow your fenders and sailing with them
hanging alongside is a simple one.

Get rid of the fenders altogether. You don't need them. Even in a slip,
provided you tie up correctly, you don't need them. If you're insecure
about your boat hitting the pier or pilings secure the fenders to the
structures and not to your boat.

But, everybody knows keeping your boat in a slip is almost as lame as
sailing with fenders hanging. Real sailors keep their boats anchored or
on a mooring. This is one more of the many things the good Capt. Neal is
right about. Isn't it about time you all started doing things HIS way.
(except for his problem with colors)

Wilbur Hubbard

In my case, the slip is a double wide, with no pilings between our boats.
I can tie up on one side of the boat only, and the bow. How would you keep
that boat from blowing into the dock? I might tie off the fenders at the
floating dock, but only a fool would leave his boat unprotected.
As for the mooring, I'd love to have one in protected waters. Around here,
the only moorings I've seen were subjected to the worst conditions, with
their masts swinging wildly and nonstop. When I want solitude and
relaxation, I'll stick with an anchor.
Scout

You should probably ignore Neal, aka Wilber. Fenders are the right thing to
do.

--
"j" ganz

I ALWAYS motor all the way out till I finally pull my fenders in. It
annoys the hell out of some people who do not have real lives.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 16, 1:27 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Scout" wrote in message

. ..



"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
tanews.com...
The solution to forgetting to stow your fenders and sailing with them
hanging alongside is a simple one.

Get rid of the fenders altogether. You don't need them. Even in a
slip,
provided you tie up correctly, you don't need them. If you're
insecure
about your boat hitting the pier or pilings secure the fenders to the
structures and not to your boat.

But, everybody knows keeping your boat in a slip is almost as lame as
sailing with fenders hanging. Real sailors keep their boats anchored
or
on a mooring. This is one more of the many things the good Capt. Neal
is
right about. Isn't it about time you all started doing things HIS way.
(except for his problem with colors)

Wilbur Hubbard

In my case, the slip is a double wide, with no pilings between our
boats.
I can tie up on one side of the boat only, and the bow. How would you
keep
that boat from blowing into the dock? I might tie off the fenders at
the
floating dock, but only a fool would leave his boat unprotected.
As for the mooring, I'd love to have one in protected waters. Around
here,
the only moorings I've seen were subjected to the worst conditions,
with
their masts swinging wildly and nonstop. When I want solitude and
relaxation, I'll stick with an anchor.
Scout

You should probably ignore Neal, aka Wilber. Fenders are the right thing
to
do.

--
"j" ganz

I ALWAYS motor all the way out till I finally pull my fenders in. It
annoys the hell out of some people who do not have real lives.



It's a good idea, since you never know when some putz is going to run into
you. You should keep one handy that isn't attached as well.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:40:43 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote:

I ALWAYS motor all the way out till I finally pull my fenders in. It
annoys the hell out of some people who do not have real lives.

I'll keep that in mind when I motor out in my Mac 26X/M for a blue
water cruise - if I get one, of course.
Maybe cause some coronaries among the "sailors" sitting in their slips
polishing brightwork and refinishing teak.
Decided on your next boat, Froggie?

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in
message ...
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:40:43 -0700, Frogwatch

wrote:

I ALWAYS motor all the way out till I finally pull my
fenders in. It
annoys the hell out of some people who do not have real
lives.

I'll keep that in mind when I motor out in my Mac 26X/M

hang old trick tires all around the hull. The real sailors
will feel safer.

Scotty

* Vic Smith wrote, On 7/17/2007 6:43 AM:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:40:43 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote:
I ALWAYS motor all the way out till I finally pull my fenders in. It
annoys the hell out of some people who do not have real lives.

I'll keep that in mind when I motor out in my Mac 26X/M for a blue
water cruise - if I get one, of course.

For years I never bought a fender; I could always find one that had
fallen off a powerboat.

Maybe cause some coronaries among the "sailors" sitting in their slips
polishing brightwork and refinishing teak.

Do you really know any such people? Most of the obsessive cleaners I
know are powerboaters. Or they're liveaboards who devote a few days a
year to varnishing.