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OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
Capt. Rob wrote:
I love it when folks talk about healthcare and then wrap it all up with the economic factors. You can really spot the royal asshole that way. Bottom line: Every American should have health care because it's the ethical way. Period. There is simply no answer, no feasable and human alternative. Our current medical system is a complete horror show for too many good Americans. Period. Bart, go **** yourself. You're such an asshole with no clue about the poverty in this country. Why should you care? Oh, right. You're a dick. RB 35s5 NY I agree. Doctors should not charge for their services. Hostitals should have open doors. All hospital services should be free and the administration and support services should be from full-time volunteers with no compensation. All medical treatment should be given away. Its the only answer. Period. (TFPIC) |
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OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
"katy" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "Bart" wrote in message oups.com... Sicko': Heavily Doctored Is Michael Moore's prescription worse than the disease? By Kurt Loder http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/artic...58/story.jhtml Except of the above. We're the only "modern" country that doesn't have universal health care. They all must be wrong. Erroneous thinking...a preponderance of the world is Asian....we must change our genetics...a preponderance of the world is Muslim...we must all become Muslims... So, I guess it's ok with you if 12 million American children don't have health care. Got it! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
"katy" wrote in message
... OzOne wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 08:40:19 -0400, katy scribbled thusly: Capt. JG wrote: "Bart" wrote in message legroups.com... Sicko': Heavily Doctored Is Michael Moore's prescription worse than the disease? By Kurt Loder http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/artic...58/story.jhtml Except of the above. We're the only "modern" country that doesn't have universal health care. They all must be wrong. Erroneous thinking...a preponderance of the world is Asian....we must change our genetics...a preponderance of the world is Muslim...we must all become Muslims... Your national debt is the worlds largest per capita....you will become part of Asia. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace, We've been expecting you. WalMart has been trying to accomplish that for the last 15 years...people here just don't get it...by Jon's way of thinking, then, the rest of the world should follow suit... Wow... we should all rely on WalMart! Now that's logical thinking. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
... On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 11:02:01 -0000, thunder wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:36:25 -0700, Bart wrote: What's the problem with government health systems? What's more important, continued support for a private health care system, or American jobs? It seems to be overlooked that our health care system costs upwards of 15% GDP, while those countries with universal health care spend @10% GDP. That extra 5% is the reason is the reason our automotive sector is fleeing north, expanding operations in Canada, while curtailing them here. In a global economy, 5% extra cost puts us at a considerable economic disadvantage. Ignore that at your peril. All manufacturing is fleeing, not just automotive, and health care cost is a major driver. I know, I've been there. But universal health care is not the answer. Just recently, at a medical school close to my home, the state legislature mandated to the board of higher education that the number of seats be increased. There is a very large supply of eligible candidates, many don't get in. It is the AMA's very sucessful, long standing attempt to control the supply side, keeping fee schedules very high. That's just job losses. Let's not consider the lower life expectancy and higher infant mortality our health system provides. Our health care system doesn't have anything to do with this. It is a matter of lifestyle choices. Want a lower infant mortality rate? how about a lower rate of teen mothers on drugs and alcohol. Want a longer life expectancy? How about everyone get off your buns and get some exercise and drop the high fat, high sugar diet. Frank Who runs 36 miles a week and at 60 has no aging diseases. No diabetes, no high blood pressure, no cardiovascular issues, no joint, ligament, or cartilage issues. Universal health care is available in all modern cultures except ours. I'm sure we're glad you're healthy and can afford health care, but no one has a contract with God. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Bart" wrote in message egroups.com... Sicko': Heavily Doctored Is Michael Moore's prescription worse than the disease? By Kurt Loder http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/artic...58/story.jhtml Except of the above. We're the only "modern" country that doesn't have universal health care. They all must be wrong. Erroneous thinking...a preponderance of the world is Asian....we must change our genetics...a preponderance of the world is Muslim...we must all become Muslims... So, I guess it's ok with you if 12 million American children don't have health care. Got it! It's 8.9m and a goodly number of them ARE eligible for Medicaid or other programs but aren't enrolled...thus making it an education problem, not a healthcare problem... http://www.aap.org/research/factsheet.pdf To ameliorate the problem of those that don't qualify, legislation should be passed that finds a way to take care of them...I've had personal experience, on several levels, with Canada's national healthcare system...it is not something I would want for myself or any of mine (which is a joke because half my mother's side of the family is in Canada...they can tell you some real horror stories about national health care..) And why would you think our overburdened, bureaucratic governemnt could hgandle anything like national health care? Expand Medicaid. Expand Medicare. Nationalize insurance companies or drastically change the way insurance companies are allowed to exist. Those things are feasible. National health care, in our system, would be a sorry mess. |
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OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message ... OzOne wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 08:40:19 -0400, katy scribbled thusly: Capt. JG wrote: "Bart" wrote in message glegroups.com... Sicko': Heavily Doctored Is Michael Moore's prescription worse than the disease? By Kurt Loder http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/artic...58/story.jhtml Except of the above. We're the only "modern" country that doesn't have universal health care. They all must be wrong. Erroneous thinking...a preponderance of the world is Asian....we must change our genetics...a preponderance of the world is Muslim...we must all become Muslims... Your national debt is the worlds largest per capita....you will become part of Asia. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace, We've been expecting you. WalMart has been trying to accomplish that for the last 15 years...people here just don't get it...by Jon's way of thinking, then, the rest of the world should follow suit... Wow... we should all rely on WalMart! Now that's logical thinking. Um...I think you got it wrong...that was a scathing remark about WalMart and their proclivity for buying Asian goods...and yes, the populace of the US does rely on WalMart, thus making us an economic hostage of China... |
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OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
"katy" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... OzOne wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 08:40:19 -0400, katy scribbled thusly: Capt. JG wrote: "Bart" wrote in message oglegroups.com... Sicko': Heavily Doctored Is Michael Moore's prescription worse than the disease? By Kurt Loder http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/artic...58/story.jhtml Except of the above. We're the only "modern" country that doesn't have universal health care. They all must be wrong. Erroneous thinking...a preponderance of the world is Asian....we must change our genetics...a preponderance of the world is Muslim...we must all become Muslims... Your national debt is the worlds largest per capita....you will become part of Asia. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace, We've been expecting you. WalMart has been trying to accomplish that for the last 15 years...people here just don't get it...by Jon's way of thinking, then, the rest of the world should follow suit... Wow... we should all rely on WalMart! Now that's logical thinking. Um...I think you got it wrong...that was a scathing remark about WalMart and their proclivity for buying Asian goods...and yes, the populace of the US does rely on WalMart, thus making us an economic hostage of China... Um... you're right, but who's buying all those goods... WalMart customers. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
"katy" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Bart" wrote in message legroups.com... Sicko': Heavily Doctored Is Michael Moore's prescription worse than the disease? By Kurt Loder http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/artic...58/story.jhtml Except of the above. We're the only "modern" country that doesn't have universal health care. They all must be wrong. Erroneous thinking...a preponderance of the world is Asian....we must change our genetics...a preponderance of the world is Muslim...we must all become Muslims... So, I guess it's ok with you if 12 million American children don't have health care. Got it! It's 8.9m and a goodly number of them ARE eligible for Medicaid or other programs but aren't enrolled...thus making it an education problem, not a healthcare problem... http://www.aap.org/research/factsheet.pdf To ameliorate the problem of those that don't qualify, legislation should be passed that finds a way to take care of them...I've had personal experience, on several levels, with Canada's national healthcare system...it is not something I would want for myself or any of mine (which is a joke because half my mother's side of the family is in Canada...they can tell you some real horror stories about national health care..) And why would you think our overburdened, bureaucratic governemnt could hgandle anything like national health care? Expand Medicaid. Expand Medicare. Nationalize insurance companies or drastically change the way insurance companies are allowed to exist. Those things are feasible. National health care, in our system, would be a sorry mess. So, you're talking about expanding a gov't program to include all. I'm for it. "Expand Medicare" Besides, those who do have coverage are at risk of losing it should they lose their job, and they're at risk when insurance companies refuse to pay. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... OzOne wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 08:40:19 -0400, katy scribbled thusly: Capt. JG wrote: "Bart" wrote in message ooglegroups.com... Sicko': Heavily Doctored Is Michael Moore's prescription worse than the disease? By Kurt Loder http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/artic...58/story.jhtml Except of the above. We're the only "modern" country that doesn't have universal health care. They all must be wrong. Erroneous thinking...a preponderance of the world is Asian....we must change our genetics...a preponderance of the world is Muslim...we must all become Muslims... Your national debt is the worlds largest per capita....you will become part of Asia. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace, We've been expecting you. WalMart has been trying to accomplish that for the last 15 years...people here just don't get it...by Jon's way of thinking, then, the rest of the world should follow suit... Wow... we should all rely on WalMart! Now that's logical thinking. Um...I think you got it wrong...that was a scathing remark about WalMart and their proclivity for buying Asian goods...and yes, the populace of the US does rely on WalMart, thus making us an economic hostage of China... Um... you're right, but who's buying all those goods... WalMart customers. Like I said...people here just don't get it...we're our own worst enemies... |
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OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Bart" wrote in message glegroups.com... Sicko': Heavily Doctored Is Michael Moore's prescription worse than the disease? By Kurt Loder http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/artic...58/story.jhtml Except of the above. We're the only "modern" country that doesn't have universal health care. They all must be wrong. Erroneous thinking...a preponderance of the world is Asian....we must change our genetics...a preponderance of the world is Muslim...we must all become Muslims... So, I guess it's ok with you if 12 million American children don't have health care. Got it! It's 8.9m and a goodly number of them ARE eligible for Medicaid or other programs but aren't enrolled...thus making it an education problem, not a healthcare problem... http://www.aap.org/research/factsheet.pdf To ameliorate the problem of those that don't qualify, legislation should be passed that finds a way to take care of them...I've had personal experience, on several levels, with Canada's national healthcare system...it is not something I would want for myself or any of mine (which is a joke because half my mother's side of the family is in Canada...they can tell you some real horror stories about national health care..) And why would you think our overburdened, bureaucratic governemnt could hgandle anything like national health care? Expand Medicaid. Expand Medicare. Nationalize insurance companies or drastically change the way insurance companies are allowed to exist. Those things are feasible. National health care, in our system, would be a sorry mess. So, you're talking about expanding a gov't program to include all. I'm for it. "Expand Medicare" It's a program already in place and already working...reform it... Besides, those who do have coverage are at risk of losing it should they lose their job, that's why there's COBRA...you have 18 months, and sometimes more, to either get re-employed or find something else... and they're at risk when insurance companies refuse to pay. Refuses to pay for waht? Platic surgery? Breat enhancements? Viagra? Quadruple by=pass on a 96 year old? |
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