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Maxprop April 24th 07 12:15 AM

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message

Oh... My 45-70 is not a pistol! It's a big, honkin', antique buffalo
rifle. When I shoot it, I put the stock against a tree so I don't
dislocate my shoulder! They do make handguns that will take these
cartridges, but holy cow, you'd need to be very careful of your
stance, and tape up your wrists!


Wussie. I've shot max loads in a 3" barreled Model 27 Smith, .44 mag. And
I didn't tape my wrists. Couldn't keep the gun from rising up in my grip,
but it wasn't painful.

45-70 is a black powder cartridge, not made for high internal pressures, so
it can't be loaded up like a .44mag. Not to mention that the antique guns
made for the cartridge wouldn't tolerate those sorts of high pressures. Big
slug, but slow and with the trajectory of a bowling ball dropped off the
roof.

Max



Scotty April 24th 07 12:22 AM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in


I doubt anyone really does. I was never a bouncer, but

I've known two.
Neither was particularly big, imposing, or agressive.


Well sure, that was fine for the kind of bars you frequented
..

Scotty





Maynard G. Krebbs April 24th 07 02:07 AM

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On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 22:26:56 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote:

snippity-snip

Max, you are an idiot, in addition to not knowing anything about guns. I use 500
grain cartridges, and everybody who actually knows anything about guns knows
that the 45-70 rifle has an effective range of 2 miles or better.

CWM


You're talking about the 45-70 Goverment round?
Mark E. Williams

Capt. JG April 24th 07 04:48 AM

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in


I doubt anyone really does. I was never a bouncer, but

I've known two.
Neither was particularly big, imposing, or agressive.


Well sure, that was fine for the kind of bars you frequented
.

Scotty


What kind are those?

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"j" ganz @@
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Ringmaster April 24th 07 05:26 AM

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Go to You Tube and check out the video of the fat guy shooting a .
50cal revolver. Both his arm and the gun go flying over his head.


Capt. JG April 24th 07 05:40 AM

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"Ringmaster" wrote in message
ups.com...
Go to You Tube and check out the video of the fat guy shooting a .
50cal revolver. Both his arm and the gun go flying over his head.



Sounds like a girl.

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Scotty April 24th 07 02:46 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Ringmaster" wrote in message

ups.com...
Go to You Tube and check out the video of the fat guy

shooting a .
50cal revolver. Both his arm and the gun go flying over

his head.



Sounds like a girl.



Sounds like BB



[email protected] April 24th 07 06:52 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote:
Kenny looks up and says, take your f*ckin yellin' somewhere else or
I'll f*ck you up. Just like that he said it. No yelling. The guy put down
his drink. I thought he was going to plant Kenny with one hand. Instead, he
punched his buddy's arm and said let's get out of here, then left. I think
it was all attitude that did it. In any case, it was impressive.


It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight
in the dog.


Martin Baxter wrote:
Now that I'll believe, some guys you just know you shouldn't mess with,
Boob****'s not one of them.


Umm, no. Why would anybody with a lick of sense believe a pathological
liar?

I've known a couple of people who were real live ass-kickers,
including a few lady karate instructors. None of them felt the need to
brag. I have also been friends with a few real Navy SEALS, all of whom
were of average size (but if you looked close, you saw the whipcord
physique) and tended to like trouble occasionally.... but still didn't
brag about how bad-ass they were.

Whether it's money, sex, sailing skill, or pretty much anything else,
the louder the brag the less the reality.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


[email protected] April 24th 07 06:59 PM

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
Oh... My 45-70 is not a pistol! It's a big, honkin', antique buffalo
rifle. When I shoot it, I put the stock against a tree so I don't
dislocate my shoulder!


Yeah, I bet.

In fact, you've almost certainly never owned or shot one. The barrels
are very heavy, the muzzle velocity is relatively low, and the recoil
not bad.

.... They do make handguns that will take these
cartridges, but holy cow, you'd need to be very careful of your
stance, and tape up your wrists!


Two words: muzzle brake

Maxprop" wrote:
Wussie. I've shot max loads in a 3" barreled Model 27 Smith, .44 mag. And
I didn't tape my wrists. Couldn't keep the gun from rising up in my grip,
but it wasn't painful.


Now that has an air of credibility. There is a difference between
muzzle rise & wrist-tape-necessitating recoil. People with no
experience with fire arms tend to exaggerate. Besides, how the heck
are you going to get a good sight picture with the shoulder stock
against a tree?

45-70 is a black powder cartridge, not made for high internal pressures, so
it can't be loaded up like a .44mag. Not to mention that the antique guns
made for the cartridge wouldn't tolerate those sorts of high pressures. Big
slug, but slow and with the trajectory of a bowling ball dropped off the
roof.


It's a little better than that. IIRC the drop was about a foot at 100
yards. It's why those old-timey rifles had fold-up rear sights like a
tall letter "H".

If you load it up for max velocity, you also get a very impressive
muzzle flash. Have to be careful to not set the woods on fire.

DSK


Maxprop April 25th 07 03:23 AM

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in


I doubt anyone really does. I was never a bouncer, but

I've known two.
Neither was particularly big, imposing, or agressive.


Well sure, that was fine for the kind of bars you frequented


Gay bars?

"Say, big fella--you'll have to leave now. Um, meet me out back . . ."

Max



Maxprop April 25th 07 03:29 AM

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 22:15:32 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:


"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message

Oh... My 45-70 is not a pistol! It's a big, honkin', antique buffalo
rifle. When I shoot it, I put the stock against a tree so I don't
dislocate my shoulder! They do make handguns that will take these
cartridges, but holy cow, you'd need to be very careful of your
stance, and tape up your wrists!


Wussie. I've shot max loads in a 3" barreled Model 27 Smith, .44 mag.
And
I didn't tape my wrists. Couldn't keep the gun from rising up in my grip,
but it wasn't painful.

45-70 is a black powder cartridge, not made for high internal pressures,
so
it can't be loaded up like a .44mag. Not to mention that the antique guns
made for the cartridge wouldn't tolerate those sorts of high pressures.
Big
slug, but slow and with the trajectory of a bowling ball dropped off the
roof.

Max


Max, you are an idiot, in addition to not knowing anything about guns. I
use 500
grain cartridges, and everybody who actually knows anything about guns
knows
that the 45-70 rifle has an effective range of 2 miles or better.


Bwwwaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You've been watching "Quigley Down Under," haven't ya.

A .22 LR has a range of two miles if you aim it 45 degrees above the
horizon, which is what you'd have to do with a 45-70.

Give us fact, Einstein--not urban myths. You can BS to the general public
all you want, but you'll not gain any quarter from experience arms owners.

Max



Maxprop April 25th 07 03:29 AM

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"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 22:26:56 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote:

snippity-snip

Max, you are an idiot, in addition to not knowing anything about guns. I
use 500
grain cartridges, and everybody who actually knows anything about guns
knows
that the 45-70 rifle has an effective range of 2 miles or better.

CWM


You're talking about the 45-70 Goverment round?
Mark E. Williams


Amusing, isn't it.

Max



Maxprop April 25th 07 03:32 AM

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On 24 Apr 2007 09:59:07 -0700, wrote:

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
Oh... My 45-70 is not a pistol! It's a big, honkin', antique buffalo
rifle. When I shoot it, I put the stock against a tree so I don't
dislocate my shoulder!


Yeah, I bet.

In fact, you've almost certainly never owned or shot one. The barrels
are very heavy, the muzzle velocity is relatively low, and the recoil
not bad.


Bwhahahahahaha! One more thing on the long list of things Doug doesn't
know anything about, yet has lots to say.


Yeah. I'll bet he doesn't own Whitworth tools, either.

Bwwwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Max



katy April 25th 07 04:27 AM

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Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 01:32:37 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:


"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
. ..

On 24 Apr 2007 09:59:07 -0700, wrote:


"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message

Oh... My 45-70 is not a pistol! It's a big, honkin', antique buffalo
rifle. When I shoot it, I put the stock against a tree so I don't
dislocate my shoulder!

Yeah, I bet.

In fact, you've almost certainly never owned or shot one. The barrels
are very heavy, the muzzle velocity is relatively low, and the recoil
not bad.


Bwhahahahahaha! One more thing on the long list of things Doug doesn't
know anything about, yet has lots to say.


Yeah. I'll bet he doesn't own Whitworth tools, either.

Bwwwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Max



He, like you, doesn't even know what they are. However, he CAN dock a 36 foot
motor boat IF he has a bow thruster to help him.

CWM

\He can even dock it without the bow thruster...and he does lknow much
more than you pretend he doesn't...

Jonathan Ganz April 25th 07 04:45 AM

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In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in


I doubt anyone really does. I was never a bouncer, but

I've known two.
Neither was particularly big, imposing, or agressive.


Well sure, that was fine for the kind of bars you frequented


Gay bars?

"Say, big fella--you'll have to leave now. Um, meet me out back . . ."


You guys like gay bars? TMI
--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Scotty April 25th 07 05:37 AM

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in


I doubt anyone really does. I was never a bouncer, but

I've known two.
Neither was particularly big, imposing, or agressive.


Well sure, that was fine for the kind of bars you

frequented

Gay bars?

"Say, big fella--you'll have to leave now. Um, meet me

out back . . ."


Did that always work, Max?




Maxprop April 25th 07 01:43 PM

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Scotty" wrote in message
m...

"Capt. JG" wrote in


I doubt anyone really does. I was never a bouncer, but
I've known two.
Neither was particularly big, imposing, or agressive.

Well sure, that was fine for the kind of bars you frequented


Gay bars?

"Say, big fella--you'll have to leave now. Um, meet me out back . . ."


You guys like gay bars? TMI


We don't have any around here.

Now SF--that would be an entirely different story.

Max



Maxprop April 25th 07 01:43 PM

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"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in


I doubt anyone really does. I was never a bouncer, but
I've known two.
Neither was particularly big, imposing, or agressive.

Well sure, that was fine for the kind of bars you

frequented

Gay bars?

"Say, big fella--you'll have to leave now. Um, meet me

out back . . ."


Did that always work, Max?


Ask someone from San Francisco. We don't have any gay bars around here,
AFAIK.

Max



Scotty April 25th 07 01:58 PM

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
k.net...


Well sure, that was fine for the kind of bars you

frequented

Gay bars?

"Say, big fella--you'll have to leave now. Um, meet me

out back . . ."

You guys like gay bars? TMI


We don't have any around here.



You checked?



katy April 25th 07 02:00 PM

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Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:27:12 -0400, katy wrote:


Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 01:32:37 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:



"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
m...


On 24 Apr 2007 09:59:07 -0700, wrote:



"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message


Oh... My 45-70 is not a pistol! It's a big, honkin', antique buffalo
rifle. When I shoot it, I put the stock against a tree so I don't
dislocate my shoulder!

Yeah, I bet.

In fact, you've almost certainly never owned or shot one. The barrels
are very heavy, the muzzle velocity is relatively low, and the recoil
not bad.


Bwhahahahahaha! One more thing on the long list of things Doug doesn't
know anything about, yet has lots to say.

Yeah. I'll bet he doesn't own Whitworth tools, either.

Bwwwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Max



He, like you, doesn't even know what they are. However, he CAN dock a 36 foot
motor boat IF he has a bow thruster to help him.

CWM


\He can even dock it without the bow thruster...and he does lknow much
more than you pretend he doesn't...



I'm impressed...

You, however are far more easily impressed.

CWM


No...nothing to be impressed about...docking a boat is docking a
boat...since you seem to think it's sucj a big deal to do, you must have
problems with it.

katy April 25th 07 02:01 PM

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Maxprop wrote:
"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Scotty" wrote in message
om...

"Capt. JG" wrote in


I doubt anyone really does. I was never a bouncer, but

I've known two.

Neither was particularly big, imposing, or agressive.

Well sure, that was fine for the kind of bars you


frequented

Gay bars?

"Say, big fella--you'll have to leave now. Um, meet me


out back . . ."


Did that always work, Max?



Ask someone from San Francisco. We don't have any gay bars around here,
AFAIK.

Max


Heck, even Grand Rapids, the soul of Calvinsim, has gay bars...you just
haven't looked hard enough...

Jonathan Ganz April 25th 07 07:08 PM

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In article t,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Scotty" wrote in message
om...

"Capt. JG" wrote in


I doubt anyone really does. I was never a bouncer, but
I've known two.
Neither was particularly big, imposing, or agressive.

Well sure, that was fine for the kind of bars you frequented

Gay bars?

"Say, big fella--you'll have to leave now. Um, meet me out back . . ."


You guys like gay bars? TMI


We don't have any around here.

Now SF--that would be an entirely different story.


No doubt. I take it you and Scott are quite familiar with them. g

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



[email protected] April 30th 07 04:38 AM

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Charlie Morgan wrote:
Max, you are an idiot, in addition to not knowing anything about guns. I use 500
grain cartridges, and everybody who actually knows anything about guns knows
that the 45-70 rifle has an effective range of 2 miles or better.


So tell us more about this rifle you claim to have owned. What kind
was it? I'm also curious how you got a good sight picture with the
stock "braced against a small tree."

DSK


Maynard G. Krebbs May 1st 07 01:37 AM

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On 29 Apr 2007 19:38:47 -0700, wrote:

Charlie Morgan wrote:
Max, you are an idiot, in addition to not knowing anything about guns. I use 500
grain cartridges, and everybody who actually knows anything about guns knows
that the 45-70 rifle has an effective range of 2 miles or better.


So tell us more about this rifle you claim to have owned. What kind
was it? I'm also curious how you got a good sight picture with the
stock "braced against a small tree."

DSK


I think he means the range is 2 miles. The effective range of the
45-70 Government is around 300 yards if the shooter is skilled.
Mark E. Williams
PS...Don't let me interupt the fun. :o)


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