It's crazy. You would think a boat load of Brits could fend off a boat
load of Iran sailors.
Seems the America's are required not to be captured.

Strange too, they have the whole episode on radar and sat and know
they were not in Iran waters, but the Iranian's say they confessed to
being in Iraq waters. Rubber hose confessions I bet.

Blair needs to pop off 15 cruise missles now, and then give them
about one hour to release the crew or send in another 15 missles.

Joe

Joe wrote:
It's crazy. You would think a boat load of Brits could fend off a boat
load of Iran sailors.
Seems the America's are required not to be captured.

Strange too, they have the whole episode on radar and sat and know
they were not in Iran waters, but the Iranian's say they confessed to
being in Iraq waters. Rubber hose confessions I bet.

Blair needs to pop off 15 cruise missles now, and then give them
about one hour to release the crew or send in another 15 missles.

Joe

Problem is that GB's only allies, aside from former British colonies
like Canada and OZ, is us...so once again there would be no world
backing for anything like that...the prevailing sentiment from the rest
of the world is "Why were you there to begin with?" so there won't be
any help that way..and the UN is a joke so you know there won't be any
help there. It would be nice, though, if GB would lob something at
someone as an initial action so they could take the heat instead of us
for a change.

On Mar 26, 9:22 am, katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
It's crazy. You would think a boat load of Brits could fend off a boat
load of Iran sailors.
Seems the America's are required not to be captured.

Strange too, they have the whole episode on radar and sat and know
they were not in Iran waters, but the Iranian's say they confessed to
being in Iraq waters. Rubber hose confessions I bet.

Blair needs to pop off 15 cruise missles now, and then give them
about one hour to release the crew or send in another 15 missles.

Joe

Problem is that GB's only allies, aside from former British colonies
like Canada and OZ, is us...so once again there would be no world
backing for anything like that...the prevailing sentiment from the rest
of the world is "Why were you there to begin with?" so there won't be
any help that way..and the UN is a joke so you know there won't be any
help there. It would be nice, though, if GB would lob something at
someone as an initial action so they could take the heat instead of us
for a change.

Heat? Well if the rest of the world feels it's wrong to liberate
people from a tyrant like Saddam, and go after mass murders like Al
Queida then thats their problem. We do not need thier approval. Let's
face it, they are jealous of America, so the only way they can feel
good is to imigrate and become American, or find ways to try to
tarnish our accomplishments.

Hopefully theses ********s that bitch about America will some day
move into the modern age and become sufficent enough to not be so
angry and jealous.

Joe

In article .com,
Joe wrote:

On Mar 26, 9:22 am, katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
It's crazy. You would think a boat load of Brits could fend off a boat
load of Iran sailors.
Seems the America's are required not to be captured.

It's not strange... you think the Iranians just had sidearms or
something?

Strange too, they have the whole episode on radar and sat and know
they were not in Iran waters, but the Iranian's say they confessed to
being in Iraq waters. Rubber hose confessions I bet.

Probably. You don't have to actually hit someone to get a
confession. Everyone knows the "confession" would be coerced, so why
go through the actual beating.

Blair needs to pop off 15 cruise missles now, and then give them
about one hour to release the crew or send in another 15 missles.

Typical response from a Bushkin. When Carter tried to freed the
Americans, he was called a wimp. When Ronny Raygun traded arms for
hostages, no one seemed to care.

Heat? Well if the rest of the world feels it's wrong to liberate
people from a tyrant like Saddam, and go after mass murders like Al
Queida then thats their problem. We do not need thier approval. Let's
face it, they are jealous of America, so the only way they can feel
good is to imigrate and become American, or find ways to try to
tarnish our accomplishments.

Such unmitigated BS. Saddam and AQ are totally different. We should
have gone after the latter. Instead, we went after the former. A war
of choice rather than necessity. 3000 US soldiers dead, 25K wounded,
100s of 1000s of Iraqi innocents dead, and civil war.

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On Mar 26, 12:15 pm, (Jonathan Ganz) wrote:
In article .com,

Joe wrote:
On Mar 26, 9:22 am, katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
It's crazy. You would think a boat load of Brits could fend off a boat
load of Iran sailors.
Seems the America's are required not to be captured.

It's not strange... you think the Iranians just had sidearms or
something?


And you think the brits were packing pop sicyles & bubble gum?
The team surrendered Jon.... Never mind, you do not have a clue.

Strange too, they have the whole episode on radar and sat and know
they were not in Iran waters, but the Iranian's say they confessed to
being in Iraq waters. Rubber hose confessions I bet.

Probably. You don't have to actually hit someone to get a
confession. Everyone knows the "confession" would be coerced, so why
go through the actual beating.


Would you confess to another country if you did no wrong?

Blair needs to pop off 15 cruise missles now, and then give them
about one hour to release the crew or send in another 15 missles.

Typical response from a Bushkin. When Carter tried to freed the
Americans, he was called a wimp.

The whole operation was a major cluster F*&K Jon. A totally botched
snatch and grab, when we should have used overwhelming force. Flaten a
few dozen palaces and see how fast they return hostages. You can even
call the assholes and give them enough warning to clear the target
site.

When Ronny Raygun traded arms for
hostages, no one seemed to care.

Heat? Well if the rest of the world feels it's wrong to liberate
people from a tyrant like Saddam, and go after mass murders like Al
Queida then thats their problem. We do not need thier approval. Let's
face it, they are jealous of America, so the only way they can feel
good is to imigrate and become American, or find ways to try to
tarnish our accomplishments.

Such unmitigated BS. Saddam and AQ are totally different.

Both were terrorist supporters that needed to be delt with.

We should
have gone after the latter. Instead, we went after the former. A war
of choice rather than necessity. 3000 US soldiers dead, 25K wounded,
100s of 1000s of Iraqi innocents dead, and civil war.


You left out the 3000 killed in NY. And the many thousands of kurds
gassed by Saddam.


Joe

--
Capt. JG

In article .com,
Joe wrote:
On Mar 26, 12:15 pm, (Jonathan Ganz) wrote:
It's crazy. You would think a boat load of Brits could fend off a boat
load of Iran sailors.
Seems the America's are required not to be captured.

It's not strange... you think the Iranians just had sidearms or
something?


And you think the brits were packing pop sicyles & bubble gum?
The team surrendered Jon.... Never mind, you do not have a clue.

Umm... you were making the point that you couldn't understand why they
didn't fight back. I said that the Iranians were probably well-armed.
Now, you say they were surrounded. Sounds like not dying was the right
thing to do. Do you not have a clue?

Probably. You don't have to actually hit someone to get a
confession. Everyone knows the "confession" would be coerced, so why
go through the actual beating.


Would you confess to another country if you did no wrong?

If I was threatened with torture, especially if I knew that no one
would believe it. Would you prefer to have your fingernailed
extracted until you tell them what they want to hear anyway?

Blair needs to pop off 15 cruise missles now, and then give them
about one hour to release the crew or send in another 15 missles.

Typical response from a Bushkin. When Carter tried to freed the
Americans, he was called a wimp.

The whole operation was a major cluster F*&K Jon. A totally botched
snatch and grab, when we should have used overwhelming force. Flaten a
few dozen palaces and see how fast they return hostages. You can even
call the assholes and give them enough warning to clear the target
site.

Typical response if you don't value human life. So far, they haven't
killed or likely tortured anyone.

Such unmitigated BS. Saddam and AQ are totally different.

Both were terrorist supporters that needed to be delt with.

Bush lied about the reasons for attacking Iraq. If he would have said,
because he's a bad guy and he's torturing/killing his own people, then
maybe he wouldn't have 25% support and actually did the right thing
for the right reason. Saddam was contained and not a threat to us.

But, keep telling yourself he was if it makes you feel better.

We should
have gone after the latter. Instead, we went after the former. A war
of choice rather than necessity. 3000 US soldiers dead, 25K wounded,
100s of 1000s of Iraqi innocents dead, and civil war.


You left out the 3000 killed in NY. And the many thousands of kurds
gassed by Saddam.

And, we attacked the Taliban and Al Queda in Afganistan. Nothing to do
with Iraq.

BTW, how come you're not so upset about the 100s of 1000s in Darfur
who are being killed by terrorists there? Or, do they not count
because they have darker skin?

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www.sailnow.com

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...

Such unmitigated BS. Saddam and AQ are totally different. We should
have gone after the latter.

Why? If, as you left-wingnuts believe, the whole 9/11 attack scenario was a
ruse by the Bush Administration, what does al Qaeda have to do with
anything, other than taking credit for something they didn't do?

Max

In article ink.net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...

Such unmitigated BS. Saddam and AQ are totally different. We should
have gone after the latter.

Why? If, as you left-wingnuts believe, the whole 9/11 attack scenario was a
ruse by the Bush Administration, what does al Qaeda have to do with
anything, other than taking credit for something they didn't do?

Huh? Do you need meds? When did I say that? Did Michael Moore, your
arch evil whipping boy say that? Who did exactly?
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Joe wrote:

It's crazy. You would think a boat load of Brits could fend off a boat
load of Iran sailors.
Seems the America's are required not to be captured.

Strange too, they have the whole episode on radar and sat and know
they were not in Iran waters, but the Iranian's say they confessed to
being in Iraq waters. Rubber hose confessions I bet.

Blair needs to pop off 15 cruise missles now, and then give them
about one hour to release the crew or send in another 15 missles.

Joe

I wonder what the hell the Capt. of the mother ship was doing. Why
didn't he intercept the Iranians? If indeed the Brits were in Iraqi
waters, then the Iranis must have been in Iraqi waters also, put a few
4" rounds into them and they'd probably slow down right quick.

Cheers
Marty

On Mar 26, 9:52 am, Martin Baxter wrote:


I wonder what the hell the Capt. of the mother ship was doing.
Cheers
Marty

Tea and crumpets most likely.

Joe