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This looks like real sailing http://www.actadvantage.org/Newslett...CatboatBIG.gif
However "breezing up" just does not look right http://www.birdsnest.com/images/breezing_up.jpg See what I mean? And breezing up is worth 5X's Catboat. Joe |
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![]() "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... This looks like real sailing http://www.actadvantage.org/Newslett...CatboatBIG.gif However "breezing up" just does not look right http://www.birdsnest.com/images/breezing_up.jpg See what I mean? And breezing up is worth 5X's Catboat. Joe Looks like the former is a crude watercolor of the latter. But neither are cat boats as neither are gaff-rigged. Looks like Breezing Up has a sprit sail and it looks like Homercatboat deleted it and tried to make it look like a big jib. . . I think you might have gotten either the pictures or your descriptions backwards as it looks to me like Breezing Up is more realistically portrayed. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Mar 25, 12:30 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... This looks like real sailing http://www.actadvantage.org/Newslett...r06/HomerCatbo... However "breezing up" just does not look right http://www.birdsnest.com/images/breezing_up.jpg See what I mean? And breezing up is worth 5X's Catboat. Joe Looks like the former is a crude watercolor of the latter. But neither are cat boats as neither are gaff-rigged. Looks like Breezing Up has a sprit sail and it looks like Homercatboat deleted it and tried to make it look like a big jib. . . I think you might have gotten either the pictures or your descriptions backwards as it looks to me like Breezing Up is more realistically portrayed. Wilbur Hubbard Crude? Haa! Simple maybe, but not crude. Is this crude? http://www.nga.gov/feature/homer/72/...16-keywest.jpg Same anchorage that " Cut the Cheese" is moored. And no, I did not get the pictures backwards. The motion of the boat and rudder looks real in the Catboat pic, but no so in the "Breezing Up" picture. Joe |
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![]() "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 25, 12:30 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... This looks like real sailing http://www.actadvantage.org/Newslett...r06/HomerCatbo... However "breezing up" just does not look right http://www.birdsnest.com/images/breezing_up.jpg See what I mean? And breezing up is worth 5X's Catboat. Joe Looks like the former is a crude watercolor of the latter. But neither are cat boats as neither are gaff-rigged. Looks like Breezing Up has a sprit sail and it looks like Homercatboat deleted it and tried to make it look like a big jib. . . I think you might have gotten either the pictures or your descriptions backwards as it looks to me like Breezing Up is more realistically portrayed. Wilbur Hubbard Crude? Haa! Simple maybe, but not crude. Is this crude? http://www.nga.gov/feature/homer/72/...16-keywest.jpg Same anchorage that " Cut the Cheese" is moored. And no, I did not get the pictures backwards. The motion of the boat and rudder looks real in the Catboat pic, but no so in the "Breezing Up" picture. Joe Look at the pictures again, Joe. Breezing up has weather helm and the rudder is trying to correct for it. The first picture that looks like a watercolor has the rudder centered with no wash coming from it. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Mar 25, 1:16 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 25, 12:30 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message groups.com... This looks like real sailing http://www.actadvantage.org/Newslett...r06/HomerCatbo... However "breezing up" just does not look right http://www.birdsnest.com/images/breezing_up.jpg See what I mean? And breezing up is worth 5X's Catboat. Joe Looks like the former is a crude watercolor of the latter. But neither are cat boats as neither are gaff-rigged. Looks like Breezing Up has a sprit sail and it looks like Homercatboat deleted it and tried to make it look like a big jib. . . I think you might have gotten either the pictures or your descriptions backwards as it looks to me like Breezing Up is more realistically portrayed. Wilbur Hubbard Crude? Haa! Simple maybe, but not crude. Is this crude? http://www.nga.gov/feature/homer/72/...16-keywest.jpg Same anchorage that " Cut the Cheese" is moored. And no, I did not get the pictures backwards. The motion of the boat and rudder looks real in the Catboat pic, but no so in the "Breezing Up" picture. Joe Look at the pictures again, Joe. Breezing up has weather helm and the rudder is trying to correct for it. The first picture that looks like a watercolor has the rudder centered with no wash coming from it. Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Agreeded, but the balance of the sail & rudder in both pictures looks as if the Cat boat is balanced, and Breezing up has too much weather helm, or the boat is zig zagging. And with that amount of weather helm the helmsman looks awlful relaxed to me. Joe |
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![]() "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 25, 12:30 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... This looks like real sailing http://www.actadvantage.org/Newslett...r06/HomerCatbo... However "breezing up" just does not look right http://www.birdsnest.com/images/breezing_up.jpg See what I mean? And breezing up is worth 5X's Catboat. Joe Looks like the former is a crude watercolor of the latter. But neither are cat boats as neither are gaff-rigged. Looks like Breezing Up has a sprit sail and it looks like Homercatboat deleted it and tried to make it look like a big jib. . . I think you might have gotten either the pictures or your descriptions backwards as it looks to me like Breezing Up is more realistically portrayed. Wilbur Hubbard Crude? Haa! Simple maybe, but not crude. Is this crude? http://www.nga.gov/feature/homer/72/...16-keywest.jpg Same anchorage that " Cut the Cheese" is moored. That looks like a Bahamas-built hull. Probably from the Albury shipyards on Green Turtle cay. But the rig is all wrong. Bahamas boats are all sloops with very long booms and not ketch-rigged. So that picture is probably of a Jamaican boat. Note the "Darkies" aboard. Wilbur Hubbard. |
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![]() "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 25, 1:16 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 25, 12:30 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message groups.com... This looks like real sailing http://www.actadvantage.org/Newslett...r06/HomerCatbo... However "breezing up" just does not look right http://www.birdsnest.com/images/breezing_up.jpg See what I mean? And breezing up is worth 5X's Catboat. Joe Looks like the former is a crude watercolor of the latter. But neither are cat boats as neither are gaff-rigged. Looks like Breezing Up has a sprit sail and it looks like Homercatboat deleted it and tried to make it look like a big jib. . . I think you might have gotten either the pictures or your descriptions backwards as it looks to me like Breezing Up is more realistically portrayed. Wilbur Hubbard Crude? Haa! Simple maybe, but not crude. Is this crude? http://www.nga.gov/feature/homer/72/...16-keywest.jpg Same anchorage that " Cut the Cheese" is moored. And no, I did not get the pictures backwards. The motion of the boat and rudder looks real in the Catboat pic, but no so in the "Breezing Up" picture. Joe Look at the pictures again, Joe. Breezing up has weather helm and the rudder is trying to correct for it. The first picture that looks like a watercolor has the rudder centered with no wash coming from it. Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Agreeded, but the balance of the sail & rudder in both pictures looks as if the Cat boat is balanced, and Breezing up has too much weather helm, or the boat is zig zagging. And with that amount of weather helm the helmsman looks awlful relaxed to me. Joe Catboats are notorious for their weather helm. That's why they have that big barn door rudder to try to counteract it. It looks like it's not close hauled, probably close reaching and in the puff's a close reaching catboat tends to head up quite vigorously. The fellow at the tiller would indeed have more of a handful than it looks like he has . . . Wilbur Hubbard |