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Joe March 25th 07 04:44 PM

Homer's look
 
This looks like real sailing http://www.actadvantage.org/Newslett...CatboatBIG.gif

However "breezing up" just does not look right
http://www.birdsnest.com/images/breezing_up.jpg

See what I mean? And breezing up is worth 5X's Catboat.

Joe


Wilbur Hubbard March 25th 07 06:30 PM

Homer's look
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
This looks like real sailing
http://www.actadvantage.org/Newslett...CatboatBIG.gif

However "breezing up" just does not look right
http://www.birdsnest.com/images/breezing_up.jpg

See what I mean? And breezing up is worth 5X's Catboat.

Joe


Looks like the former is a crude watercolor of the latter. But neither
are cat boats as neither are gaff-rigged. Looks like Breezing Up has a
sprit sail and it looks like Homercatboat deleted it and tried to make
it look like a big jib. . . I think you might have gotten either the
pictures or your descriptions backwards as it looks to me like Breezing
Up is more realistically portrayed.

Wilbur Hubbard


Joe March 25th 07 06:47 PM

Homer's look
 
On Mar 25, 12:30 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

oups.com...

This looks like real sailing
http://www.actadvantage.org/Newslett...r06/HomerCatbo...


However "breezing up" just does not look right
http://www.birdsnest.com/images/breezing_up.jpg


See what I mean? And breezing up is worth 5X's Catboat.


Joe


Looks like the former is a crude watercolor of the latter. But neither
are cat boats as neither are gaff-rigged. Looks like Breezing Up has a
sprit sail and it looks like Homercatboat deleted it and tried to make
it look like a big jib. . . I think you might have gotten either the
pictures or your descriptions backwards as it looks to me like Breezing
Up is more realistically portrayed.

Wilbur Hubbard


Crude? Haa! Simple maybe, but not crude.

Is this crude? http://www.nga.gov/feature/homer/72/...16-keywest.jpg
Same anchorage that " Cut the Cheese" is moored.

And no, I did not get the pictures backwards. The motion of the boat
and rudder looks real in the Catboat pic, but no so in the "Breezing
Up" picture.

Joe


Wilbur Hubbard March 25th 07 07:16 PM

Homer's look
 



"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Mar 25, 12:30 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

oups.com...

This looks like real sailing
http://www.actadvantage.org/Newslett...r06/HomerCatbo...


However "breezing up" just does not look right
http://www.birdsnest.com/images/breezing_up.jpg


See what I mean? And breezing up is worth 5X's Catboat.


Joe


Looks like the former is a crude watercolor of the latter. But
neither
are cat boats as neither are gaff-rigged. Looks like Breezing Up has
a
sprit sail and it looks like Homercatboat deleted it and tried to
make
it look like a big jib. . . I think you might have gotten either the
pictures or your descriptions backwards as it looks to me like
Breezing
Up is more realistically portrayed.

Wilbur Hubbard


Crude? Haa! Simple maybe, but not crude.

Is this crude?
http://www.nga.gov/feature/homer/72/...16-keywest.jpg
Same anchorage that " Cut the Cheese" is moored.

And no, I did not get the pictures backwards. The motion of the boat
and rudder looks real in the Catboat pic, but no so in the "Breezing
Up" picture.

Joe


Look at the pictures again, Joe. Breezing up has weather helm and the
rudder is trying to correct for it. The first picture that looks like a
watercolor has the rudder centered with no wash coming from it.

Wilbur Hubbard


Joe March 25th 07 07:29 PM

Homer's look
 
On Mar 25, 1:16 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...





On Mar 25, 12:30 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message


groups.com...


This looks like real sailing
http://www.actadvantage.org/Newslett...r06/HomerCatbo...


However "breezing up" just does not look right
http://www.birdsnest.com/images/breezing_up.jpg


See what I mean? And breezing up is worth 5X's Catboat.


Joe


Looks like the former is a crude watercolor of the latter. But
neither
are cat boats as neither are gaff-rigged. Looks like Breezing Up has
a
sprit sail and it looks like Homercatboat deleted it and tried to
make
it look like a big jib. . . I think you might have gotten either the
pictures or your descriptions backwards as it looks to me like
Breezing
Up is more realistically portrayed.


Wilbur Hubbard


Crude? Haa! Simple maybe, but not crude.


Is this crude?
http://www.nga.gov/feature/homer/72/...16-keywest.jpg
Same anchorage that " Cut the Cheese" is moored.


And no, I did not get the pictures backwards. The motion of the boat
and rudder looks real in the Catboat pic, but no so in the "Breezing
Up" picture.


Joe


Look at the pictures again, Joe. Breezing up has weather helm and the
rudder is trying to correct for it. The first picture that looks like a
watercolor has the rudder centered with no wash coming from it.

Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text -

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Agreeded, but the balance of the sail & rudder in both pictures looks
as if the Cat boat is balanced, and Breezing up has too much weather
helm, or the boat is zig zagging. And with that amount of weather helm
the helmsman looks awlful relaxed to me.

Joe


Wilbur Hubbard March 25th 07 07:32 PM

Homer's look
 

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Mar 25, 12:30 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

oups.com...

This looks like real sailing
http://www.actadvantage.org/Newslett...r06/HomerCatbo...


However "breezing up" just does not look right
http://www.birdsnest.com/images/breezing_up.jpg


See what I mean? And breezing up is worth 5X's Catboat.


Joe


Looks like the former is a crude watercolor of the latter. But
neither
are cat boats as neither are gaff-rigged. Looks like Breezing Up has
a
sprit sail and it looks like Homercatboat deleted it and tried to
make
it look like a big jib. . . I think you might have gotten either the
pictures or your descriptions backwards as it looks to me like
Breezing
Up is more realistically portrayed.

Wilbur Hubbard


Crude? Haa! Simple maybe, but not crude.

Is this crude?
http://www.nga.gov/feature/homer/72/...16-keywest.jpg
Same anchorage that " Cut the Cheese" is moored.


That looks like a Bahamas-built hull. Probably from the Albury shipyards
on Green Turtle cay. But the rig is all wrong. Bahamas boats are all
sloops with very long booms and not ketch-rigged. So that picture is
probably of a Jamaican boat. Note the "Darkies" aboard.

Wilbur Hubbard.


Wilbur Hubbard March 25th 07 07:36 PM

Homer's look
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 25, 1:16 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...





On Mar 25, 12:30 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"

wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message


groups.com...


This looks like real sailing
http://www.actadvantage.org/Newslett...r06/HomerCatbo...


However "breezing up" just does not look right
http://www.birdsnest.com/images/breezing_up.jpg


See what I mean? And breezing up is worth 5X's Catboat.


Joe


Looks like the former is a crude watercolor of the latter. But
neither
are cat boats as neither are gaff-rigged. Looks like Breezing Up
has
a
sprit sail and it looks like Homercatboat deleted it and tried to
make
it look like a big jib. . . I think you might have gotten either
the
pictures or your descriptions backwards as it looks to me like
Breezing
Up is more realistically portrayed.


Wilbur Hubbard


Crude? Haa! Simple maybe, but not crude.


Is this crude?
http://www.nga.gov/feature/homer/72/...16-keywest.jpg
Same anchorage that " Cut the Cheese" is moored.


And no, I did not get the pictures backwards. The motion of the
boat
and rudder looks real in the Catboat pic, but no so in the
"Breezing
Up" picture.


Joe


Look at the pictures again, Joe. Breezing up has weather helm and the
rudder is trying to correct for it. The first picture that looks like
a
watercolor has the rudder centered with no wash coming from it.

Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Agreeded, but the balance of the sail & rudder in both pictures looks
as if the Cat boat is balanced, and Breezing up has too much weather
helm, or the boat is zig zagging. And with that amount of weather helm
the helmsman looks awlful relaxed to me.

Joe


Catboats are notorious for their weather helm. That's why they have that
big barn door rudder to try to counteract it. It looks like it's not
close hauled, probably close reaching and in the puff's a close reaching
catboat tends to head up quite vigorously. The fellow at the tiller
would indeed have more of a handful than it looks like he has . . .

Wilbur Hubbard



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