"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:05:43 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:



All you Bozos prove by your ignorant statements that you have NEVER
reused a Sta-Lok fitting. Had any of you lamers ever reused a Sta-Lok
fitting you would know that to disassemble them one must first clamp
the
terminal body upside down in the jaws of a vice at the eye/pin area.

Blah, blah. Anybody with any sense uses scrap wood when putting
chrome or other shiny stuff in a vise. No excuse there.
I would never treat my Mac 26M rigging with such disregard.

--Vic

Chrome? Bwahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahah! Shows how much you know.
Maybe MacGregor cuts corners and uses chrome plated zinc (Zamak) for
it's fittings but real sailboats like that Bristol, 27-foot,
world-cruising, blue water, Coronado by the name of "Cuts the Mustard"
and owned, sailed and professionally maintained by the World Famous
Captain Neal uses solid stainless steel fittings for the standing
rigging. A few vice jaw marks are a badge of honor which do not
compromise the functionality of the fitting one iota. Any real sailor
who looked at that fitting closely would say to himself. Now, there's a
self-sufficient sailor who installs the best fittings available and if a
wire needs to be replaced he re-uses the fitting as re-usability is one
of the features of the Sta-Lok mechanical terminal. You will never finds
a top-of-the-line fitting like that one on any MacGregor. (For one
thing, they don't make them small enough for that 1/8 in wire the Mac
uses for the backstay. Bwahahahahhahahahhahhahahahah!

Wilbur Hubbard

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:30:25 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:05:43 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:



All you Bozos prove by your ignorant statements that you have NEVER
reused a Sta-Lok fitting. Had any of you lamers ever reused a Sta-Lok
fitting you would know that to disassemble them one must first clamp
the
terminal body upside down in the jaws of a vice at the eye/pin area.

Blah, blah. Anybody with any sense uses scrap wood when putting
chrome or other shiny stuff in a vise. No excuse there.
I would never treat my Mac 26M rigging with such disregard.

--Vic

Chrome? Bwahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahah! Shows how much you know.
Maybe MacGregor cuts corners and uses chrome plated zinc (Zamak) for
it's fittings but real sailboats like that Bristol, 27-foot,
world-cruising, blue water, Coronado by the name of "Cuts the Mustard"
and owned, sailed and professionally maintained by the World Famous
Captain Neal uses solid stainless steel fittings for the standing
rigging. A few vice jaw marks are a badge of honor which do not
compromise the functionality of the fitting one iota.

No since marking good steel when a bit of sailorly care can prevent
it. Keep all gear shipshape with no vise jaw marks is my motto.

Any real sailor
who looked at that fitting closely would say to himself. Now, there's a
self-sufficient sailor who installs the best fittings available and if a
wire needs to be replaced he re-uses the fitting as re-usability is one
of the features of the Sta-Lok mechanical terminal. You will never finds
a top-of-the-line fitting like that one on any MacGregor. (For one
thing, they don't make them small enough for that 1/8 in wire the Mac
uses for the backstay. Bwahahahahhahahahhahhahahahah!

I've seen on the Mac site a lot of the original rigging is replaced,
sometimes by the dealer. Don't know for sure.
BTW, I read your website with interest and awe. How to sail lessons,
etc. Figured I'd use it as my bible on how to become a real sailor
when I get my first sailboat.
Then I saw the MacGregor site and learned I can just motor out to
some wind and follow the instructions in the 3 page pamphlet.
So I'll see how that works.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:30:25 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:05:43 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:



All you Bozos prove by your ignorant statements that you have NEVER
reused a Sta-Lok fitting. Had any of you lamers ever reused a
Sta-Lok
fitting you would know that to disassemble them one must first clamp
the
terminal body upside down in the jaws of a vice at the eye/pin area.

Blah, blah. Anybody with any sense uses scrap wood when putting
chrome or other shiny stuff in a vise. No excuse there.
I would never treat my Mac 26M rigging with such disregard.

--Vic

Chrome? Bwahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahah! Shows how much you know.
Maybe MacGregor cuts corners and uses chrome plated zinc (Zamak) for
it's fittings but real sailboats like that Bristol, 27-foot,
world-cruising, blue water, Coronado by the name of "Cuts the Mustard"
and owned, sailed and professionally maintained by the World Famous
Captain Neal uses solid stainless steel fittings for the standing
rigging. A few vice jaw marks are a badge of honor which do not
compromise the functionality of the fitting one iota.

No since marking good steel when a bit of sailorly care can prevent
it. Keep all gear shipshape with no vise jaw marks is my motto.

Any real sailor
who looked at that fitting closely would say to himself. Now, there's
a
self-sufficient sailor who installs the best fittings available and if
a
wire needs to be replaced he re-uses the fitting as re-usability is
one
of the features of the Sta-Lok mechanical terminal. You will never
finds
a top-of-the-line fitting like that one on any MacGregor. (For one
thing, they don't make them small enough for that 1/8 in wire the Mac
uses for the backstay. Bwahahahahhahahahhahhahahahah!

I've seen on the Mac site a lot of the original rigging is replaced,
sometimes by the dealer. Don't know for sure.
BTW, I read your website with interest and awe. How to sail lessons,
etc. Figured I'd use it as my bible on how to become a real sailor
when I get my first sailboat.
Then I saw the MacGregor site and learned I can just motor out to
some wind and follow the instructions in the 3 page pamphlet.
So I'll see how that works.

--Vic


You mean you read Capt. Neal's web site? I don't have a web site. I have
a Swan 68 and an Allied Seawind 32. The Swan it just to make people
jealous and it's too expensive really to operate so the Seawind gets
used more often.

You and the Mac26 is probably a marriage made in heaven. . . Buy one
right away. But consider a good used one as there are lots of them
available and the original owner will take the hit on the initial
depreciation that way. Most people who buy Macs don't really sail them a
whole lot. They soon discover it's a bit too much trouble all that
tailoring and raising and lowering of the mast and launching and parking
the car and trailer. It's just gets to be too much of a hassle. So, that
being the case, many Macs just sit in driveways for months on end and
stay in relatively decent shape.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:09:45 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:



You and the Mac26 is probably a marriage made in heaven. . . Buy one
right away. But consider a good used one as there are lots of them
available and the original owner will take the hit on the initial
depreciation that way. Most people who buy Macs don't really sail them a
whole lot. They soon discover it's a bit too much trouble all that
tailoring and raising and lowering of the mast and launching and parking
the car and trailer. It's just gets to be too much of a hassle. So, that
being the case, many Macs just sit in driveways for months on end and
stay in relatively decent shape.

Thanks for the advice Cap'n. Good points. As for the trailering
stuff, I figure I can moor somewhere and avoid that.
That way I'll get to do more sailing without all that mast raising and
adjustment nonsense. Just untie, motor off, and hoist sail per
instructions.

--Vic