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"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
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UNIONS SUCK !



I've been a member of a couple of them... depends on your
perspective I
guess. They were always pretty good to me.


SCAB !


What's scab? Some new kinda illegal drug?

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
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UNIONS SUCK !



I've been a member of a couple of them... depends on your
perspective I
guess. They were always pretty good to me.


SCAB !

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:12:51 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
.. .
This the infamous wildcat strike company? Passed over a wildcat
strike without reaction, then the Union committee passed over an
unfair labor practice without comment. When was this. Had to be
between 76 and sometime in the eighties, because I think this company
moved manufacturing to my area of the country sometime in the
eighties. And I'm not surprised they did, if what you say is true.
Incompetent management and incompetent union committe.

That certainly seems right, but I don't know anything beyond my experience.
76/77 seems about right. They had terrible management. I was originally
running a paper folding machine... huge beast on which I was originally very
poorly trained because they didn't want to take someone off one for very
long to train me. I got pretty good at it... to the point of being able to
climb off the small ladder and have a seat while listening to the rhythmic
beat of the machine. When it started to get out of sync, I'd get busy. One
time some guy in a suit came by while I was sitting and started bitching at
me for sitting. I told him to f*ck off, so he got all in a huff and walked
off, saying he was going to have me fired. Apparently he was a senior VP or
something (fat jerk). But, that was the one time (literally) when the forman
told him to stuff it, as the other two operators were either on sick or had
quit. Eventually, I had to take them to the labor relations board to get my
last few paychecks. They kept saying the "check was in the mail" after I
finally quit, but never did send it.


In my plant you would have been written up. My supervisors and
managers could not cuss out their subordinates and vice versa. If
that was their culture, they could not work for me. And managers
could not order operators to do anything except correct an unsafe act
or condition. Has to do with the concept of single reporting
line.They would have to go to your direct supervisor, and I can assure
you he would not have still been employed if he told him to "stuff
it", regardless of the current staffing problems.

If you had a problem with a VP or anyone else, the greivence procedure
was there for you to voice it.

I averaged about 20 total grievences/year (300 employees) and had an
orderly operation.

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"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
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UNIONS SUCK !



I've been a member of a couple of them... depends on your
perspective I
guess. They were always pretty good to me.


SCAB !

I thought a scab was when you cross pickets?

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:12:51 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
. ..
This the infamous wildcat strike company? Passed over a wildcat
strike without reaction, then the Union committee passed over an
unfair labor practice without comment. When was this. Had to be
between 76 and sometime in the eighties, because I think this company
moved manufacturing to my area of the country sometime in the
eighties. And I'm not surprised they did, if what you say is true.
Incompetent management and incompetent union committe.

That certainly seems right, but I don't know anything beyond my
experience.
76/77 seems about right. They had terrible management. I was originally
running a paper folding machine... huge beast on which I was originally
very
poorly trained because they didn't want to take someone off one for very
long to train me. I got pretty good at it... to the point of being able to
climb off the small ladder and have a seat while listening to the rhythmic
beat of the machine. When it started to get out of sync, I'd get busy. One
time some guy in a suit came by while I was sitting and started bitching
at
me for sitting. I told him to f*ck off, so he got all in a huff and walked
off, saying he was going to have me fired. Apparently he was a senior VP
or
something (fat jerk). But, that was the one time (literally) when the
forman
told him to stuff it, as the other two operators were either on sick or
had
quit. Eventually, I had to take them to the labor relations board to get
my
last few paychecks. They kept saying the "check was in the mail" after I
finally quit, but never did send it.


In my plant you would have been written up. My supervisors and
managers could not cuss out their subordinates and vice versa. If
that was their culture, they could not work for me. And managers
could not order operators to do anything except correct an unsafe act
or condition. Has to do with the concept of single reporting
line.They would have to go to your direct supervisor, and I can assure
you he would not have still been employed if he told him to "stuff
it", regardless of the current staffing problems.

If you had a problem with a VP or anyone else, the greivence procedure
was there for you to voice it.

I averaged about 20 total grievences/year (300 employees) and had an
orderly operation.




At that point, I wasn't union. I was getting minimum wage. I moved on
eventually to a different job on a 52" printing press.


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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:40:00 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
m...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
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UNIONS SUCK !



I've been a member of a couple of them... depends on your
perspective I
guess. They were always pretty good to me.


SCAB !

I thought a scab was when you cross pickets?

If you picket, it will never heal!

CWM


TMI


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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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Capt. JG wrote:
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:40:00 -0700, "Capt. JG"
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UNIONS SUCK !



I've been a member of a couple of them... depends on your

perspective I

guess. They were always pretty good to me.


SCAB !

I thought a scab was when you cross pickets?

If you picket, it will never heal!

CWM



TMI


And will elave a scar...