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OT / My pet peeve *fatties*
On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:56:20 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Frank Boettcher" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:18:12 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: And, like I said, you used the term "wildcat." I didn't. Not my term Jon, I didn't make it up. Definition: Never said it was your term Frank. What I said was, you used it, then claimed I did. Untrue. I did use it as it is a valid term. I did not claim you did. Repeat the quote, verbatim please. It seems to me that when management and union members are in disagreement, the first step should not be to attack each other. In the case I cited, management made a stupid mistake of not respecting those in the union, the union people were offended and reacted, then management wised up and decided not to make a major issue out of it, apologizing, and moving on. "What seems to you" is irrelevant. Your opinion about the actions of management or the workers reaction to them doesn't matter nor would mine regardless of wether it is the same or different. Once a bargaining unit has agreed to collective bargaining, they have given up the right to act individually, unilaterally or arbitrarily. They have to abide by the contract. Both parties have that obligation. Well, since I was there and I experienced it, it seems to me that you're trying hard to backpeddle. It's backpedal. To qualify or retreat from a an announced position, policy, or endorsement. Show me where. In your advise, both sides would have suffered. I advised nothing about the incident you described, only that there were ways to handle it successfully within the contract. Allowing a wildcat strike to occur without reaction would destroy the integrity of the contract. Yes, both sides would have suffered much more than just an open discussion of the problem. Now you're claiming that the integrity of the contract was more important than the actual work. Bzzzt. Where? repeat the quote, verbatim please. You're just plain wrong and can't admit it. no comment. Clearly. |
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OT / My pet peeve *fatties*
"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
... On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:56:20 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Frank Boettcher" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:18:12 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: And, like I said, you used the term "wildcat." I didn't. Not my term Jon, I didn't make it up. Definition: Never said it was your term Frank. What I said was, you used it, then claimed I did. Untrue. I did use it as it is a valid term. I did not claim you did. Repeat the quote, verbatim please. It seems to me that when management and union members are in disagreement, the first step should not be to attack each other. In the case I cited, management made a stupid mistake of not respecting those in the union, the union people were offended and reacted, then management wised up and decided not to make a major issue out of it, apologizing, and moving on. "What seems to you" is irrelevant. Your opinion about the actions of management or the workers reaction to them doesn't matter nor would mine regardless of wether it is the same or different. Once a bargaining unit has agreed to collective bargaining, they have given up the right to act individually, unilaterally or arbitrarily. They have to abide by the contract. Both parties have that obligation. Well, since I was there and I experienced it, it seems to me that you're trying hard to backpeddle. It's backpedal. To qualify or retreat from a an announced position, policy, or endorsement. Show me where. In your advise, both sides would have suffered. I advised nothing about the incident you described, only that there were ways to handle it successfully within the contract. Allowing a wildcat strike to occur without reaction would destroy the integrity of the contract. Yes, both sides would have suffered much more than just an open discussion of the problem. Now you're claiming that the integrity of the contract was more important than the actual work. Bzzzt. Where? repeat the quote, verbatim please. You're just plain wrong and can't admit it. no comment. Clearly. Pass on all your bs. You're wrong. Why don't you just admit it. Never mind, I know the answer. Maybe you can get Dave to insult me again, or perhaps you can make the attempt. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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