"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
Unfortunately, opinions aren't facts. Is self-reliance and motivation
better than actual problem solving?

In my opinion, yes. Self-reliance and motivation generally lead to
problem solving. Government seldom does. To the contrary, virtually
every action of a government has unintended consequences. Problem
solved--another created.

Opinions don't make facts. And, bzzzt... virtually every action by an
individual has unintended consequences.

Perhaps, but such individual unintended consequences don't affect the entire
population of the country.

Their healthcare system is far better than ours for example.

They have 4.5 million folks--we have nearly 300 million. Quite a
different set of dynamics. And our population continues to increase,
especially in the demographics of the working and non-working poor. If
you can provide the recipe for a health care system that equals that of
Norway but provides for a population 65 times larger without bankrupting
the country and killing the economy, I'm all ears.

Yes, the Norweigian one.

Have you given any thought as to how to pay for it? Remember that you won't
be providing care for 4.5 million, rather 300 million.

And while we're on the subject, IIRC you are over 50. Does it bother you
that Hillary's health care proposal denied a good many medical services to
people over 50, such as dialysis and heart valve replacement? Apparently
she deemed those over 50 to be expendable. And here's a flash for ya--the
Canadian and Norwegian health care systems ration health care similarly.
Where do you think Hillary got her basic concepts for federalized health
care?

Max

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
Unfortunately, opinions aren't facts. Is self-reliance and motivation
better than actual problem solving?

In my opinion, yes. Self-reliance and motivation generally lead to
problem solving. Government seldom does. To the contrary, virtually
every action of a government has unintended consequences. Problem
solved--another created.

Opinions don't make facts. And, bzzzt... virtually every action by an
individual has unintended consequences.

Perhaps, but such individual unintended consequences don't affect the
entire population of the country.

Really? I think you need a history lesson.



Their healthcare system is far better than ours for example.

They have 4.5 million folks--we have nearly 300 million. Quite a
different set of dynamics. And our population continues to increase,
especially in the demographics of the working and non-working poor. If
you can provide the recipe for a health care system that equals that of
Norway but provides for a population 65 times larger without bankrupting
the country and killing the economy, I'm all ears.

Yes, the Norweigian one.

Have you given any thought as to how to pay for it? Remember that you
won't be providing care for 4.5 million, rather 300 million.

Tax the rich of course.


And while we're on the subject, IIRC you are over 50. Does it bother you
that Hillary's health care proposal denied a good many medical services to
people over 50, such as dialysis and heart valve replacement? Apparently
she deemed those over 50 to be expendable. And here's a flash for ya--the
Canadian and Norwegian health care systems ration health care similarly.
Where do you think Hillary got her basic concepts for federalized health
care?

Where do you get this stuff and why do I care what Hillary proposed in 1992?

And while we're on the subject, IIRC you are over 50. Does it bother you
that Hillary's health care proposal denied a good many medical services to
people over 50, such as dialysis and heart valve replacement? Apparently
she deemed those over 50 to be expendable.

Is it not "nannyism" to expect the guv'mint to pay for that?
And what do you think of cuts in Medicare coverage?

It's rank nannyism to expect anybody else to pay for one's
health care. After all, if you can't pay for it yourself,
clearly you don't deserve it.


And here's a flash for ya--the
Canadian and Norwegian health care systems ration health care similarly.
Where do you think Hillary got her basic concepts for federalized health
care?


Capt. JG wrote:
Where do you get this stuff and why do I care what Hillary proposed in 1992?


Because, man, it's *HILLARY* scary movie theme.

If someone made a movie featuring Hillary and Rush, the world would end.

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"DSK" wrote in message
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And while we're on the subject, IIRC you are over 50. Does it bother you
that Hillary's health care proposal denied a good many medical services
to people over 50, such as dialysis and heart valve replacement?
Apparently she deemed those over 50 to be expendable.

Is it not "nannyism" to expect the guv'mint to pay for that? And what do
you think of cuts in Medicare coverage?

It's rank nannyism to expect anybody else to pay for one's health care.
After all, if you can't pay for it yourself, clearly you don't deserve it.


And here's a flash for ya--the
Canadian and Norwegian health care systems ration health care similarly.
Where do you think Hillary got her basic concepts for federalized health
care?


Capt. JG wrote:
Where do you get this stuff and why do I care what Hillary proposed in
1992?


Because, man, it's *HILLARY* scary movie theme.

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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If someone made a movie featuring Hillary and Rush, the world would end.

Where's Michael Moore when we need him.

Max

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Because, man, it's *HILLARY* scary movie theme.

Rated XXX.

Max

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message


Perhaps, but such individual unintended consequences don't affect the
entire population of the country.

Really? I think you need a history lesson.

I'm all ears, Jon.

Have you given any thought as to how to pay for it? Remember that you
won't be providing care for 4.5 million, rather 300 million.

Tax the rich of course.

While you may wear tights, you are definitely not Robin of Loxley.

And while we're on the subject, IIRC you are over 50. Does it bother you
that Hillary's health care proposal denied a good many medical services
to people over 50, such as dialysis and heart valve replacement?
Apparently she deemed those over 50 to be expendable. And here's a flash
for ya--the Canadian and Norwegian health care systems ration health care
similarly. Where do you think Hillary got her basic concepts for
federalized health care?

Where do you get this stuff

From the same synopsis of Hillary's health care proposal that was provided
to members of Congress.

and why do I care what Hillary proposed in 1992?

Maybe because if she's elected to the highest office in the land that we
might see this same proposal again? AND because any federalized health care
plan will have rationing of services. Someone has to suffer in order to
care for the masses.

Did you honestly believe that federal health care would actually take care
of you in a manner you'd find acceptable?

Bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Max

Not according to Katy...

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message


Perhaps, but such individual unintended consequences don't affect the
entire population of the country.

Really? I think you need a history lesson.

I'm all ears, Jon.

Have you given any thought as to how to pay for it? Remember that you
won't be providing care for 4.5 million, rather 300 million.

Tax the rich of course.

While you may wear tights, you are definitely not Robin of Loxley.

And while we're on the subject, IIRC you are over 50. Does it bother
you that Hillary's health care proposal denied a good many medical
services to people over 50, such as dialysis and heart valve
replacement? Apparently she deemed those over 50 to be expendable. And
here's a flash for ya--the Canadian and Norwegian health care systems
ration health care similarly. Where do you think Hillary got her basic
concepts for federalized health care?

Where do you get this stuff

From the same synopsis of Hillary's health care proposal that was provided
to members of Congress.

and why do I care what Hillary proposed in 1992?

Maybe because if she's elected to the highest office in the land that we
might see this same proposal again? AND because any federalized health
care plan will have rationing of services. Someone has to suffer in order
to care for the masses.

Did you honestly believe that federal health care would actually take care
of you in a manner you'd find acceptable?

Bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Max

It's not for me. It's for people who can't afford it otherwise.

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www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message


Perhaps, but such individual unintended consequences don't affect the
entire population of the country.

Really? I think you need a history lesson.

I'm all ears, Jon.

Have you given any thought as to how to pay for it? Remember that you
won't be providing care for 4.5 million, rather 300 million.

Tax the rich of course.

While you may wear tights, you are definitely not Robin of Loxley.

And while we're on the subject, IIRC you are over 50. Does it bother
you that Hillary's health care proposal denied a good many medical
services to people over 50, such as dialysis and heart valve
replacement? Apparently she deemed those over 50 to be expendable. And
here's a flash for ya--the Canadian and Norwegian health care systems
ration health care similarly. Where do you think Hillary got her basic
concepts for federalized health care?

Where do you get this stuff

From the same synopsis of Hillary's health care proposal that was provided
to members of Congress.

and why do I care what Hillary proposed in 1992?

Maybe because if she's elected to the highest office in the land that we
might see this same proposal again? AND because any federalized health
care plan will have rationing of services. Someone has to suffer in order
to care for the masses.

Did you honestly believe that federal health care would actually take care
of you in a manner you'd find acceptable?

Bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Max