You mean like the Republican Congress... talk about tax and spend....

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
news

"Sidney Greenstreet" wrote in message
...
All this conversation is about is other people's money and what method it
is you find superior to rob them.

Liberal 101: The wise legislator will always fund his pet programs with
other peoples' money.

Max

I never said that they should be raised. I said that they should pay their
fair share.

Rich means to me anyone who makes over 200K a year.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 13:40:02 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

If you have other information, why don't you just share it instead of
trying to trap me into something.

Well, Jon, you keep saying taxes on some folks you call "the rich" should
be
raised because they aren't paying their "fair share." It's impossible to
address that claim rationally unless one knows just what "the rich" means
to
you, and what you think is a "fair share" for them. So I'm trying to get
some hard numbers that can be dealt with instead of silly mush words like
"the rich" and "fair share."

I know you're not that dense... middle income American... the middle
class... figure it out, or don't.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 13:40:02 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

The vast
majority of taxes *I believe* are paid by middle Americans.

What's a "middle American?" They have higher federal income taxes in Iowa
and South Dakota?

So, then it's ok with you that Haliburton makes money and doesn't pay taxes
on it. Ok.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 13:40:57 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

So, you believe that it's ok for Haliburton should make billions but not
pay
their fair share of the taxes.

I believe you should begin thinking rather than chanting mantras.

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
news
giggle.

Not to mention Neals many posts deriding the real Ellen
MacArthur.

Not to mention, he's called you an asshole a time or two.

SBV

And, I said I don't know. I said that what seems fair is between 10 and 50
percent. Are you really that dense? (one question)

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:18:50 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

I never said that they should be raised. I said that they should pay their
fair share.

So now can you answer the question? Here it is again.

So, Jon, to be a "fair share," what percentage of total income taxes
should
be paid by:

The top 5% in income earners?

The top 10% in income earners?

The top 50% in income earners?

That calls for 3 answers.

What percentage of the total is a "fair share" to be paid by the top 5% in
income earners?

What percentage of the total is a "fair share" to be paid by the top 10%
in
income earners?

What percentage of the total is a "fair share" to be paid by the top 50%
in
income earners?

They absolutely were! All kinds of tax incentives, benefits, and freebees,
including no-bid contracts.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 23:07:36 GMT, "Maxprop" said:

I know
they overcharged the government for services in Iraq, which is criminal,
but
I wasn't aware they were given a tax break to boot.

They weren't. As usual, Jon doesn't know what he's talking about, but has
fastened on spin put on a rather slim reed by some left wing blog.

Halliburton, like virtually all public companies, reports income on an
accrual basis. When there is timing difference between taxes actually
paid,
and taxes allocated to a period under accrual accounting, the company
creates a deferred tax asset or a deferred tax liability on its balance
sheet. Then when the timing difference reverses itself that deferred asset
or liability is charged rather than charging income for the period. If it
appears that the deferred tax asset will not be used (such as, for
example,
because the company doesn't think it will have enough future income to use
it) or that more of it will be used than previously assumed, the deferred
asset or liability must be revalued. That revaluation affects the accrual
for taxes for the period in which the adjustment is made.

In 2005, Halliburton revalued a deferred tax asset relating to asbestos
and
silicosis claims. As a result of this revaluation, the reported effective
tax rate for 2005 was only 3%. In the past the effective rate has been
33-37%, and in future years the effective rate is expected to be in line
with the historical rate. Should Halliburton have to revalue the deferred
tax asset the other direction, you would see an exceptionally high
effective
tax rate for the period of that revaluation.

"katy" wrote:
Joe wrote:
You're right, I've noticed that too Katy. Thats why I do not think
Ellen is Neal.
Neal would never make that grammer error. Most likely Ellen is " KO"
BTW thats in Katy code.

You don't have a clue, Joey! Ellen is not me...

It's Neal....he's smart enough to try to throw some of you off by
deliberately disguising his posts...don't fall for it...you see, he
believes that a girl like the one he's trying to impersonate wouldn't know
the difference in the homonyms...or ebven that the words were
homonyms...and do you honestly think someone serious would post all the
giggling? Only silly girls, which is what Neal feels all women are,
giggle.

Katy doesn't have a clue about Capt. Neal. She believes that "ChiChi"
posting from a cable in DFW is CN, while he is posting from the Keys!
hahahaaaahahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Not to mention, I was at a client's office and found my way to this group
and posted a quick one liner...katyklueless immediately accused me of being
Capt. Neal. I laughed so hard, my sides were hurting. If anyone listens to
this women who is incapable of learning anything about spelling (3rd grade
level) or posting on ng's (beginner level) is really stupid. (to put it
mildly)

LP

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

katy wrote:
Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"katy" wrote

My personal belief is that BS is actually spending time with young
Tom...I think he probably reads the group and maybe
is posting here and there elsewhere...O think Mooron just can't stand
all the US politicing here...



Well, I guess everybody should take that to the bank. From
somebody who says
I'm Capt. Neal it means it's 100% fact. Your worse than Capt. JG with
your imaginings.....
Do-do-do, do-do-do, do-do-do
http://tzone.the-croc.com/sounds/twiltzon.mid

Cheers,
Ellen


Just hanging on my every word...if you're not Neal, then you're a very
strange chicky...by the way, your use of "your" is consistently
incorrect...it's a contraction...but you know that...


You're right, I've noticed that too Katy. Thats why I do not think
Ellen is Neal.
Neal would never make that grammer error. Most likely Ellen is " KO"
BTW thats in Katy code.

An interesting theory, not without merit.

Sorry, I used to think you were at least average in intelligence!

What a monkey brain!

LP

"Maxprop" wrote:

"katy" wrote :
O think Mooron just can't stand all the US politicing here...

He probably had to enter the US again and doesn't want anyone to know
about it. When he's been into the Overproof Rum, he becomes transparent.


Capt. Mooron is a better man than you, hands down! You couldn't be anything
but a katysails cuckold....many times used, BTW

LP