What would OJ do in a case like this ???

He would kill the wife, and the boyfriend... cut them up.

Then, claim he was a victim of racial profiling ,, get a stupid black jury
to let him off and then ;;;

write a book telling everyone how he would have done it if he did it.

========

So, you need to ax the wife, claim that she jumped overboard, get a jury of
male sailors with bothersome wives, and then write a book about how you
would have pushed your wife overboard if you did push her overboard.


========================

Really quite simple.

=================================
wrote in message
ups.com...
These days I don't normally sail with my wife cuz she drives me nuts
when she does. Asks too dang many questions I have answered many times
before and I long ago lost my patience for teaching her and I figger
she outa just figure it out for herself, if she is really interested.
With her around I cant relax and concentrate on sailing. BUT, I
decided that we ought to spend more time together so I convinced her to
go out for an hour or so..........big mistake.
I was a nice chilly day here in N. Fl with the wind outa the north,
unusual but nice. We had our 10 yr old daughter aboard and I motored
out and turned to go south out the ½ mile long channel. Put up the
jib cranked the diesel up all the way to blow out the carbon and got
out in a hurry. Put up the main and went off on a course of 140 with
engine turning over the charge the batteries. After about 15 minutes,
the engine slowly died. No problem, it'll probably crank when we
need it and even if it doesn't, we can always tack down the channel,
I've done it before (except not on a falling tide......). After some
easy sailing in nearly 18 kts with reefed main , decided to go in as it
was getting chilly. Engine wouldn't start. Couldn't get any
course N of 270 going west toward the channel marker tripod, CRAP,
turned to NE and went a long way into the shallows till the tripod was
240 from us and then turned back to it. Wind seemed to be out of 340
so I figgered we'd have just a little trouble but not too much going
down the N-S channel. Went past the channel entrance tripod tower
going west and then turned back toward it.
Was really surprised at how little northing we could get and only ended
up about 150' north of the tripod when I had to tack back west so I
wouldn't go too far into the shallows. My wife was running the Jib
and I was steering and she somehow didn't get the jib to tack so we
had to jibe, no problem except we lost some ground. At the other side,
tacked again and went back east. Tacking on the east side needed
really good control of the jib and she just couldn't get the hang of
it and we had to jibe again but I managed to make up for it in gusts
making more northing. On the next tack she missed again so we traded
places. Unfortunately, she just couldn't get the hang of it and I
kept finding her with the tiller hard over for some reason so I took
over steering again. On the next tack, she missed again and I actually
had to give up about 100' to avoid hitting a marker.
By this time I was ****ed and demanded that she just sit back and allow
me to get us in. She keeps talking about getting help on the radio but
I kept telling her we didn't need any help cuz we were not in any
trouble and she keeps goin on about it making me nutso. Finally, I get
into the groove, controlling the tacks and all and making real
progress. On one tack, the wind picks up and I manage to get a good
angle north, so much so that I decide to go a little more past the side
of the channel than usual, after all, even if we go aground, the N wind
will push us off............
Well, I go aground, no problem I thought, I turn the tiller to make us
jibe and let out all the RF jib to push her head around and SHOCK, she
doesn't move. DANG, it didn't feel as if we went hard aground but
the wind wouldn't push us off no matter what. Suddenly wife is
demanding I call for help. I say "Hell NO" we are not in trouble
and I'm getting us off. OK, I try to start the engine again, a few
sputters but then nothing. CRAP, she demands that we "Call
somebody" so I ask, "Call ****ing who" and she says "The Marine
Patrol or the Coast Guard" to which I reply that we are in NO danger
at all and in fact are only ½ mile from shore in water so shallow I
can walk to shore if necessary. I commence to trying to rock us off,
no luck. She wants me to call somebody we know on shore but I tell her
I don't have their phone numbers and I'd prefer to wait for the
tide. She says, "How will we get in then, the same thing will
happen". I tell her that by tomorrow the wind will be outa the south
and we can then sail most of the way in. "TOMORROW, It is COLD, WE
HAVE ONLY ONE BLANKET and no food and I have to get to work in the
morning and Katie has o go to school and...." Katie replies "I
want to stay, I want to stay". I say, "Dammit, we have three
parkas, a blanket, several sheets and even some apples and snack stuff,
no problem". "We need to get home" she says. "AAAAAAUGH, OK,
I'll try the radio", so I try to call the local coast guard
auxiliary that I know will not respond, "See, no answer". This
doesn't stop her, she just ****ed off and threatens to use her cell
phone to get our 16 yr old son at home to call for help. So, I get
browbeaten into calling TowBoat US and get them ok. They tell us what
it'll cost/hr and I tell em we'll call back if we really need help.
Then, we see the only other boat on the water go by ¼ mile away, it
is SeaTow so she convinces me to call them. Thank You God, they are
responding to a genuine call for help and cannot get to us.
I go below and try to bleed the engine, an easy thing to do if she
would get off my back about my tools being all over the cabin. I have
an electric fuel pump because it makes bleeding the engine a breeze but
I get NO fuel out the bleed ports, "HUH"? I think back to years
ago when the electric pump diaphragm had gone bad at the dock, no
amount of pumping would get fuel to the fuel filter, CRAP, its happened
again, bad timing too.
I go forward to try to push off with the very very long extendable boat
hook, nothing at all, we are hard aground. SO, I decide to make the
best of it and get out my Delta anchor and manage to throw it way out
so don't go too far if we float off.
Suddenly "GROAN", I see SeaTow coming down the channel toward us,
they managed to get the other boat out of distress. If I tell them to
leave I'll never hear the end of it so I humbly tie their tow rope to
our cleat and they pull us into the channel bumping the bottom a lot on
the way, clearly the tide has really gone out. They tow us to the dock
and I go to pay. By this time I was seriously happy to be off the boat
with my wife so even the astonishing cost of $480 didn't faze me
much. It was $10/ft for the ungrounding (28' sailboat) and then $165
minimum and a couple other fees.
20 YEARS OF SAILING AND I HAVE NEVER NEEDED TO BE TOWED IN. Shame,
shame, shame. I've been hard aground before with my friends, no
problem, just wait for the tide and party till then. If I was with
them or myself and able to be relaxed about my tools being all over
I'd have just rigged up a gravity feed for the engine but
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I had to listen to so much crap I finally
gave in to such debasement. I love my wife but will not sail with her
again. Yes, I'd still be aground with my 10 yr old daughter with me
but we'd have fun fishing and I'd get off in the morn.

On 20 Nov 2006 07:26:52 -0800, "
wrote:


Frank Boettcher wrote:
On 19 Nov 2006 20:53:52 -0800, "
wrote:


Don White wrote:
wrote:
snip..
They tow us to the dock
and I go to pay. By this time I was seriously happy to be off the boat
with my wife so even *the astonishing cost of $480* didn't faze me
much. It was $10/ft for the ungrounding (28' sailboat) and then $165
minimum and a couple other fees.
snip...

Whoo hoo! Around here the Coast Guard...or some friendly boater will
always come to the rescue...for free.

Re-thinking this, I regret posting it. It has me blaming my wife for
my predicament when I had nobody but myslf to blame. If I had
displayed much more confidence and a fun atitude I could probably have
talked my wife into enjoying the overnight grounding. Unfortunately, I
consider sailing to be an excercise in problem solving so I do not sail
for the same reasons she does. I DID invite her. I apologize.

David OHara


Tough day, but been there. You should know better. You sail in keel
scraping land to start with and you got a north wind. Bars become
islands, charts are suspect, and you can rarely get through a sail
without a bump and a "where the hell did that come from".

Fortunately, never had my wife with me while I waited for a southwest
wind and the tide to bring back the water. if the specs were biting
or I could get my cast net over some smoking mullet, it never bothered
me to wait it out.

Frank

snipped it..

Kathy cannot sail but is no wimp.

Sheri the same, will hike and backpack with me, wants me to get a
reservation to hike the Grand Canyon. Has had and raised three kids.
And although she likes to go, she cannot sail and has no desire to
learn. I used to give her the "you've been on boats for thirty years
and still don't know the difference between a sheet and a halyard" but
now I just consider her a passenger and don't expect anything else.
Far less fighting aboard.

Frank

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:23:25 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

If this doesn't work, put a block on the anchor line and run it up the mast with a halyard. Winching the anchor line will then heel the boat powerfully, reducing the draft as you drag the boat off.

Snatch block on the anchor line, taken up with a halyard.

Just when you think you've seen all of the clever tricks on a
sailboat, along comes another one.

Good one Roger.

Gilligan wrote:
Leave the wife home.

She wants to sail.

Obviously she can not contribute to the solution of the
problem, she can only make matters worse.

Because he doesn't have the patience or whatever to communicate the
workings properly.
Just think of what might have
happened if someone was injured or quick action was needed to prevent
catastrophe.

He would have fallen apart.

The icing on the cake is to mention to her how lonely her retirement will be
when you are out sailing the world - without her.

No...for Christmas he should buy her sailing lessons with a female
instrictor or a male instructor with a ;ot of experience teaching women
and children..and the daughter should go, too/ I did not learn to sail
by being taught by my husband. He assumed too much. And when I got it
wrong he ye;;ed. So I sought out others with a lot of sailing experience
and began sailing on their boats. Funny how other people are loathe to
yell at you on their boats. The constraints of pioliteness with someone
elses wife helps a lot. (And their wife will crawl all over them if they
yell at you.)

I do not understand why men are expected to cater to women's emotionally
driven whims and are expected to "apologize" for not understanding.

He acted like an asshole. If he doesn't apologize just what do you
think the consequences at home will be? I suppose there are some men who
prefer the vouch for life.
Why
aren't women expected to understand men?

They do. That's the problem.

Why is it assumed that women are so
handicapped?

Men make this assumption. It makes them feel manly and strong. Goes
back to the cave days. The genetics haven't been wiped out yet.

Why must men yield to this emotional terrorism?

Because they like warm bodies...

Women are wired for dealing with children, other women and some family
matters.

Dealing with children means a woman deals with every aspect of life:
danger, illness, transportation, education, feeding, clothing, caring,
emergencies, disasters, household management. ALl the things you need
to deal with when sailing.

Men are wired for dealing with the external world - things such as
attacking beasts, danger, dinosaurs, thugs, science, sailing and the like.

You've never seen my mother go after a snake with a hoe. Or my
grandmother after a fox that got into her chickens. You are making
incorrect suppositions here. Women face beasts all day. They face the
external world everyday when they have to deal with teachers, the
pharmacist, the doctor, and the repairmen who come to the hoise to fix
ehatever her husband can't.

In your situation there was a conflict between the manly world and the
woman's world. It looks like the costliest solution won.

Bunk.....

It is unfortunate that the great and powerful mind of that Master Mariner
Capt Neal is not here to contribute further on this subject. I am certain
that he would add brilliant insight.

And thank God for that...

The wife should buy hubby an auto pilot for christmas so she can stay home
and face all those challenges of raising children that You speak so highly
of. I noticed dear kate You ignored the part where the hubby stated he has
told her and shown her time and time again how to do things and she can't
seem to get it. Of course you blame the man for not having patience with the
female but did You ever stop to think maybe she's just not smart enough to
get it. Oh wait that takes thinking. sorry
"katy" wrote in message
...
Gilligan wrote:
Leave the wife home.

She wants to sail.

Obviously she can not contribute to the solution of the
problem, she can only make matters worse.

Because he doesn't have the patience or whatever to communicate the
workings properly.
Just think of what might have
happened if someone was injured or quick action was needed to prevent
catastrophe.

He would have fallen apart.

The icing on the cake is to mention to her how lonely her retirement will
be when you are out sailing the world - without her.

No...for Christmas he should buy her sailing lessons with a female
instrictor or a male instructor with a ;ot of experience teaching women
and children..and the daughter should go, too/ I did not learn to sail by
being taught by my husband. He assumed too much. And when I got it wrong
he ye;;ed. So I sought out others with a lot of sailing experience and
began sailing on their boats. Funny how other people are loathe to yell
at you on their boats. The constraints of pioliteness with someone elses
wife helps a lot. (And their wife will crawl all over them if they yell at
you.)

I do not understand why men are expected to cater to women's emotionally
driven whims and are expected to "apologize" for not understanding.

He acted like an asshole. If he doesn't apologize just what do you think
the consequences at home will be? I suppose there are some men who prefer
the vouch for life.
Why
aren't women expected to understand men?

They do. That's the problem.

Why is it assumed that women are so
handicapped?

Men make this assumption. It makes them feel manly and strong. Goes back
to the cave days. The genetics haven't been wiped out yet.

Why must men yield to this emotional terrorism?

Because they like warm bodies...

Women are wired for dealing with children, other women and some family
matters.

Dealing with children means a woman deals with every aspect of life:
danger, illness, transportation, education, feeding, clothing, caring,
emergencies, disasters, household management. ALl the things you need to
deal with when sailing.

Men are wired for dealing with the external world - things such as
attacking beasts, danger, dinosaurs, thugs, science, sailing and the
like.

You've never seen my mother go after a snake with a hoe. Or my
grandmother after a fox that got into her chickens. You are making
incorrect suppositions here. Women face beasts all day. They face the
external world everyday when they have to deal with teachers, the
pharmacist, the doctor, and the repairmen who come to the hoise to fix
ehatever her husband can't.

In your situation there was a conflict between the manly world and the
woman's world. It looks like the costliest solution won.

Bunk.....

It is unfortunate that the great and powerful mind of that Master Mariner
Capt Neal is not here to contribute further on this subject. I am certain
that he would add brilliant insight.

And thank God for that...

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"Scotty" wrote in message
news

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...

I like your second post much better, but can you think
of
any other things
you should have done differently?


When he wrote about throwing the anchor, I thought he
was
going to try to kedge off.

SBV



It's kinda funny, but no one has mentioned what started
all of this: the
engine. If one relies upon their engine to be able to get
back home or to
get out of trouble, having it "slowly stop running"
should
be a matter of
concern. I believe that the first order of business
shouldn't have been
continuing the sail, but in finding out why the engine
died, and fixing it.

He did mention the fuel pump. I believe his wife failed to
replace it the night before, even though she knew it was
going to die the next day.

snort

Seahag

Chi Chi wrote:
The wife should buy hubby an auto pilot for christmas so she can stay home
and face all those challenges of raising children that You speak so highly
of. I noticed dear kate You ignored the part where the hubby stated he has
told her and shown her time and time again how to do things and she can't
seem to get it. Of course you blame the man for not having patience with the
female but did You ever stop to think maybe she's just not smart enough to
get it. Oh wait that takes thinking. sorry
"katy" wrote in message
...
Gilligan wrote:
Leave the wife home.

She wants to sail.

Obviously she can not contribute to the solution of the
problem, she can only make matters worse.

Because he doesn't have the patience or whatever to communicate the
workings properly.
Just think of what might have
happened if someone was injured or quick action was needed to prevent
catastrophe.

He would have fallen apart.

The icing on the cake is to mention to her how lonely her retirement will
be when you are out sailing the world - without her.

No...for Christmas he should buy her sailing lessons with a female
instrictor or a male instructor with a ;ot of experience teaching women
and children..and the daughter should go, too/ I did not learn to sail by
being taught by my husband. He assumed too much. And when I got it wrong
he ye;;ed. So I sought out others with a lot of sailing experience and
began sailing on their boats. Funny how other people are loathe to yell
at you on their boats. The constraints of pioliteness with someone elses
wife helps a lot. (And their wife will crawl all over them if they yell at
you.)

I do not understand why men are expected to cater to women's emotionally
driven whims and are expected to "apologize" for not understanding.

He acted like an asshole. If he doesn't apologize just what do you think
the consequences at home will be? I suppose there are some men who prefer
the vouch for life.
Why
aren't women expected to understand men?

They do. That's the problem.

Why is it assumed that women are so
handicapped?

Men make this assumption. It makes them feel manly and strong. Goes back
to the cave days. The genetics haven't been wiped out yet.

Why must men yield to this emotional terrorism?

Because they like warm bodies...

Women are wired for dealing with children, other women and some family
matters.

Dealing with children means a woman deals with every aspect of life:
danger, illness, transportation, education, feeding, clothing, caring,
emergencies, disasters, household management. ALl the things you need to
deal with when sailing.

Men are wired for dealing with the external world - things such as
attacking beasts, danger, dinosaurs, thugs, science, sailing and the
like.

You've never seen my mother go after a snake with a hoe. Or my
grandmother after a fox that got into her chickens. You are making
incorrect suppositions here. Women face beasts all day. They face the
external world everyday when they have to deal with teachers, the
pharmacist, the doctor, and the repairmen who come to the hoise to fix
ehatever her husband can't.

In your situation there was a conflict between the manly world and the
woman's world. It looks like the costliest solution won.

Bunk.....

It is unfortunate that the great and powerful mind of that Master Mariner
Capt Neal is not here to contribute further on this subject. I am certain
that he would add brilliant insight.

And thank God for that...



I have an auto-pilot and I use it when singlehanding.
Now along those lines a story about a marraige gone bad. Years ago, we
were caving with a husband wife team and were going down a really bad
road in their 4WD truck, came to a deep water filled hole. Henry stops
the truck and says "Mary Lou, why dontcha get out and lock in the hubs"
which she dutifully does while standing in water. Henry turns to me
and says "you didnt know I had automatic hubs did you". They got
divorced.
Kathy cannot sail I think mostly cuz she doesnt want to. She has never
been calm on the water cuz she was brought up inland up north and isnt
really a good swimmer either although good enough. She just doesnt
relax near the water. She is fine in the mountains climbing or hiking
but water makes her nervous. After many years, I understand this and do
not pressure her to like it. She has taken sailing lessons but
promptly forgot them because it just isnt her thing. I built the
little MiniCup sailboats cuz I thought her and the kids would like
them. The kids loved them but she tried once and wont go near them
again. Its just not her thing.

"Frogwatch" wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
wrote:


Don White wrote:
wrote:
snip..
They tow us to the dock
and I go to pay. By this time I was seriously happy
to be off the boat
with my wife so even *the astonishing cost of $480*
didn't faze me
much. It was $10/ft for the ungrounding (28'
sailboat) and then $165
minimum and a couple other fees.
snip...

Whoo hoo! Around here the Coast Guard...or some
friendly boater will
always come to the rescue...for free.

Re-thinking this, I regret posting it. It has me
blaming my wife for
my predicament when I had nobody but myslf to blame. If
I had
displayed much more confidence and a fun atitude I could
probably have
talked my wife into enjoying the overnight grounding.
Unfortunately, I
consider sailing to be an excercise in problem solving
so I do not sail
for the same reasons she does. I DID invite her. I
apologize.

Well, you had me convinced you were right the first time,
and now
you've convinced me again. Have you considered sales?
I do like the second convincing more.

--Vic

I think I have gotten too confident in problem solving
without taking
into account the human dimension. This is probably why I
enjoy single
handed sailing.
The solution would really have been to wait. There was no
danger
although it is supposed to hit 30 degrees tonight. With
two cell
phones, nobody would have to worry about us. Even if the
wind direcion
did not change and I was unable to rig a fuel feed.
SOMEBODY would be
coming down that channel on Monday.
I sulked the entire night after it happened cuz it really
hurt my
pride. I probably should go make amends.

See ya.

Yeah, it's Soooo much fun going for a pleasure sail and
having to bust one's balls tacking and rebuilding engines
when all you were wanting to do was relax before hitting the
weekly grind the next day.

Godivas are good:^)

Seahag

Chi Chi wrote:
The wife should buy hubby an auto pilot for christmas so she can stay home
and face all those challenges of raising children that You speak so highly
of. I noticed dear kate You ignored the part where the hubby stated he has
told her and shown her time and time again how to do things and she can't
seem to get it.

He obviously has no teaching skills, Neal.

Of course you blame the man for not having patience with the
female but did You ever stop to think maybe she's just not smart enough to
get it.

Or he's not communicative enough to express the correct thing to do?


Oh wait that takes thinking. sorry

Something he obviously didn't do.

"katy" wrote in message
...

Gilligan wrote:

Leave the wife home.

She wants to sail.

Obviously she can not contribute to the solution of the

problem, she can only make matters worse.

Because he doesn't have the patience or whatever to communicate the
workings properly.
Just think of what might have

happened if someone was injured or quick action was needed to prevent
catastrophe.

He would have fallen apart.

The icing on the cake is to mention to her how lonely her retirement will
be when you are out sailing the world - without her.

No...for Christmas he should buy her sailing lessons with a female
instrictor or a male instructor with a ;ot of experience teaching women
and children..and the daughter should go, too/ I did not learn to sail by
being taught by my husband. He assumed too much. And when I got it wrong
he ye;;ed. So I sought out others with a lot of sailing experience and
began sailing on their boats. Funny how other people are loathe to yell
at you on their boats. The constraints of pioliteness with someone elses
wife helps a lot. (And their wife will crawl all over them if they yell at
you.)

I do not understand why men are expected to cater to women's emotionally
driven whims and are expected to "apologize" for not understanding.

He acted like an asshole. If he doesn't apologize just what do you think
the consequences at home will be? I suppose there are some men who prefer
the vouch for life.
Why

aren't women expected to understand men?

They do. That's the problem.

Why is it assumed that women are so

handicapped?

Men make this assumption. It makes them feel manly and strong. Goes back
to the cave days. The genetics haven't been wiped out yet.

Why must men yield to this emotional terrorism?

Because they like warm bodies...

Women are wired for dealing with children, other women and some family
matters.

Dealing with children means a woman deals with every aspect of life:
danger, illness, transportation, education, feeding, clothing, caring,
emergencies, disasters, household management. ALl the things you need to
deal with when sailing.

Men are wired for dealing with the external world - things such as

attacking beasts, danger, dinosaurs, thugs, science, sailing and the
like.

You've never seen my mother go after a snake with a hoe. Or my
grandmother after a fox that got into her chickens. You are making
incorrect suppositions here. Women face beasts all day. They face the
external world everyday when they have to deal with teachers, the
pharmacist, the doctor, and the repairmen who come to the hoise to fix
ehatever her husband can't.


In your situation there was a conflict between the manly world and the
woman's world. It looks like the costliest solution won.

Bunk.....

It is unfortunate that the great and powerful mind of that Master Mariner
Capt Neal is not here to contribute further on this subject. I am certain
that he would add brilliant insight.

And thank God for that...

katy wrote:
Chi Chi wrote:

The wife should buy hubby an auto pilot for christmas so she can stay
home and face all those challenges of raising children that You speak
so highly of. I noticed dear kate You ignored the part where the hubby
stated he has told her and shown her time and time again how to do
things and she can't seem to get it.


He obviously has no teaching skills, Neal.

Of course you blame the man for not having patience with the

female but did You ever stop to think maybe she's just not smart
enough to get it.


Or he's not communicative enough to express the correct thing to do?


Oh wait that takes thinking. sorry

Something he obviously didn't do.

"katy" wrote in message
...

Gilligan wrote:

Leave the wife home.


She wants to sail.

Obviously she can not contribute to the solution of the

problem, she can only make matters worse.


Because he doesn't have the patience or whatever to communicate the
workings properly.
Just think of what might have

happened if someone was injured or quick action was needed to
prevent catastrophe.


He would have fallen apart.

The icing on the cake is to mention to her how lonely her retirement
will be when you are out sailing the world - without her.


No...for Christmas he should buy her sailing lessons with a female
instrictor or a male instructor with a ;ot of experience teaching
women and children..and the daughter should go, too/ I did not learn
to sail by being taught by my husband. He assumed too much. And when
I got it wrong he ye;;ed. So I sought out others with a lot of
sailing experience and began sailing on their boats. Funny how other
people are loathe to yell at you on their boats. The constraints of
pioliteness with someone elses wife helps a lot. (And their wife will
crawl all over them if they yell at you.)

I do not understand why men are expected to cater to women's
emotionally driven whims and are expected to "apologize" for not
understanding.


He acted like an asshole. If he doesn't apologize just what do you
think the consequences at home will be? I suppose there are some men
who prefer the vouch for life.
Why

aren't women expected to understand men?


They do. That's the problem.

Why is it assumed that women are so

handicapped?


Men make this assumption. It makes them feel manly and strong. Goes
back to the cave days. The genetics haven't been wiped out yet.

Why must men yield to this emotional terrorism?

Because they like warm bodies...

Women are wired for dealing with children, other women and some
family matters.


Dealing with children means a woman deals with every aspect of life:
danger, illness, transportation, education, feeding, clothing,
caring, emergencies, disasters, household management. ALl the things
you need to deal with when sailing.

Men are wired for dealing with the external world - things such as

attacking beasts, danger, dinosaurs, thugs, science, sailing and the
like.


You've never seen my mother go after a snake with a hoe. Or my
grandmother after a fox that got into her chickens. You are making
incorrect suppositions here. Women face beasts all day. They face
the external world everyday when they have to deal with teachers, the
pharmacist, the doctor, and the repairmen who come to the hoise to
fix ehatever her husband can't.


In your situation there was a conflict between the manly world and
the woman's world. It looks like the costliest solution won.


Bunk.....

It is unfortunate that the great and powerful mind of that Master
Mariner Capt Neal is not here to contribute further on this subject.
I am certain that he would add brilliant insight.


And thank God for that...



OK...after reading his explanation of the history of sailing in his
family, I addend this. WHen you take her sailing, don't ask her to do
anything. Make her as comfortable as possible. Have a bottle of wine
on board. A boc of chocolates, a good book. Ig things get dicey, don't
get mad. Just clear the decks and do what has to be done. And get your
engine fixed so it never happens again. DON'T not take her sailing when
she asks. Take fer, grit your teeth, and think of the benefits that
might come from being pleasant for the day.