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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message ... wrote: Don White wrote: David OHara I'm really glad you posted this and htat I read it before ripping you a new one that would have been the size of the GrandCanyon... When I was younger, I blamed everything on my wife, too. But now I'm more mature, or is it 'trained'. Scotty ....trained....you'll do almost anything for a Ritz cracker with squirty cheese on it... |
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I always have trouble coming up with appropriate post titles. Next time, can I ask you?
It isn't often realized just what a vital safety device a towed dinghy is in situations like this. Even in Maine's high and thus fast falling, tides, I've jumped in the dinghy, hooked the anchor over the transom, rowed it out, and been back on the boat fast enough to pull off with the anchor rode led to a jib halyard winch before the tide fell enough to stick fast. You really have to jump though when working against a 12 foot tide. If this doesn't work, put a block on the anchor line and run it up the mast with a halyard. Winching the anchor line will then heel the boat powerfully, reducing the draft as you drag the boat off. -- Roger Long |
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On 19 Nov 2006 20:53:52 -0800, "
wrote: Don White wrote: wrote: snip.. They tow us to the dock and I go to pay. By this time I was seriously happy to be off the boat with my wife so even *the astonishing cost of $480* didn't faze me much. It was $10/ft for the ungrounding (28' sailboat) and then $165 minimum and a couple other fees. snip... Whoo hoo! Around here the Coast Guard...or some friendly boater will always come to the rescue...for free. Re-thinking this, I regret posting it. It has me blaming my wife for my predicament when I had nobody but myslf to blame. If I had displayed much more confidence and a fun atitude I could probably have talked my wife into enjoying the overnight grounding. Unfortunately, I consider sailing to be an excercise in problem solving so I do not sail for the same reasons she does. I DID invite her. I apologize. David OHara Tough day, but been there. You should know better. You sail in keel scraping land to start with and you got a north wind. Bars become islands, charts are suspect, and you can rarely get through a sail without a bump and a "where the hell did that come from". Fortunately, never had my wife with me while I waited for a southwest wind and the tide to bring back the water. if the specs were biting or I could get my cast net over some smoking mullet, it never bothered me to wait it out. Frank |
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Leave the wife home. Obviously she can not contribute to the solution of the
problem, she can only make matters worse. Just think of what might have happened if someone was injured or quick action was needed to prevent catastrophe. The icing on the cake is to mention to her how lonely her retirement will be when you are out sailing the world - without her. I do not understand why men are expected to cater to women's emotionally driven whims and are expected to "apologize" for not understanding. Why aren't women expected to understand men? Why is it assumed that women are so handicapped? Why must men yield to this emotional terrorism? Women are wired for dealing with children, other women and some family matters. Men are wired for dealing with the external world - things such as attacking beasts, danger, dinosaurs, thugs, science, sailing and the like. In your situation there was a conflict between the manly world and the woman's world. It looks like the costliest solution won. It is unfortunate that the great and powerful mind of that Master Mariner Capt Neal is not here to contribute further on this subject. I am certain that he would add brilliant insight. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
Vic Smith wrote: On 19 Nov 2006 20:53:52 -0800, " wrote: Don White wrote: wrote: snip.. They tow us to the dock and I go to pay. By this time I was seriously happy to be off the boat with my wife so even *the astonishing cost of $480* didn't faze me much. It was $10/ft for the ungrounding (28' sailboat) and then $165 minimum and a couple other fees. snip... Whoo hoo! Around here the Coast Guard...or some friendly boater will always come to the rescue...for free. Re-thinking this, I regret posting it. It has me blaming my wife for my predicament when I had nobody but myslf to blame. If I had displayed much more confidence and a fun atitude I could probably have talked my wife into enjoying the overnight grounding. Unfortunately, I consider sailing to be an excercise in problem solving so I do not sail for the same reasons she does. I DID invite her. I apologize. Well, you had me convinced you were right the first time, and now you've convinced me again. Have you considered sales? I do like the second convincing more. --Vic I think I have gotten too confident in problem solving without taking into account the human dimension. This is probably why I enjoy single handed sailing. The solution would really have been to wait. There was no danger although it is supposed to hit 30 degrees tonight. With two cell phones, nobody would have to worry about us. Even if the wind direcion did not change and I was unable to rig a fuel feed. SOMEBODY would be coming down that channel on Monday. I sulked the entire night after it happened cuz it really hurt my pride. I probably should go make amends. See ya. Depends on the tides also. If you have a keel boat and the tides fall three or more feet, you could have had a very uncomfortable night. |
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Larry wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in news:1164000104.521584.101920 @e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com: I probably should go make amends. No problem. The mall diamond stores open at 9AM, right on time.... Larry That could be a dangerous thing to do. The wife may expect similar offerings everytime he's wrong. |
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Frank Boettcher wrote: On 19 Nov 2006 20:53:52 -0800, " wrote: Don White wrote: wrote: snip.. They tow us to the dock and I go to pay. By this time I was seriously happy to be off the boat with my wife so even *the astonishing cost of $480* didn't faze me much. It was $10/ft for the ungrounding (28' sailboat) and then $165 minimum and a couple other fees. snip... Whoo hoo! Around here the Coast Guard...or some friendly boater will always come to the rescue...for free. Re-thinking this, I regret posting it. It has me blaming my wife for my predicament when I had nobody but myslf to blame. If I had displayed much more confidence and a fun atitude I could probably have talked my wife into enjoying the overnight grounding. Unfortunately, I consider sailing to be an excercise in problem solving so I do not sail for the same reasons she does. I DID invite her. I apologize. David OHara Tough day, but been there. You should know better. You sail in keel scraping land to start with and you got a north wind. Bars become islands, charts are suspect, and you can rarely get through a sail without a bump and a "where the hell did that come from". Fortunately, never had my wife with me while I waited for a southwest wind and the tide to bring back the water. if the specs were biting or I could get my cast net over some smoking mullet, it never bothered me to wait it out. Frank Well, she wasnt too mad at me and was understanding about my loss of pride. In retrospect, I really need to put the dinghy oars back aboard now that I have painted them. I woulda kedged off as I have done before if i had any way to get the anchor far enough from the boat. With the dinghy, this woulda been no problem. Getting down the narrow canal woulda been easy too with the dinghy cuz I coulda just rowed a line to a down-canal dock and pulled her down the canal (been there, done that). It turns out that spending the night out woulda been bad cuz it got rough last night although being in the shallows only 1/2 mile off shore from where the wind was blowing would have been ok. Still, it turns out that the forecast for the next few days is 20-25 out of the north, really weird. SO, she was right to want to get towed. Ive never paid any attention to tow boats cuz I never thought I'd need a tow so the sticker shock was real. Getting a good look at it, the SeaTow boat was impressive for its size. I gave the impression that my wife is a wimp and she is not. In fact, she was very concerned that I had gotten that impression of her. We have been married 27 years and our first date was a canoe trip where we canoed at night through continous thunderstorms cuz the river flooded. On our honeymoon, we spent 90 days in a backpacking tent in NM, CO, and WY. On our Honeymoon, in a rockclimbing accident, she broke her arm, chipped her hip bone and broke her toe yet still slept in the tent till the snow was collapsing it each night. In a caving rapelling accident, she once fell 70 feet burning all the skin off her hands from gripping the rope before I caught her fall. She has had 3 kids. Kathy cannot sail but is no wimp. |
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Gilligan wrote:
snip... It is unfortunate that the great and powerful mind of that Master Mariner Capt Neal is not here to contribute further on this subject. I am certain that he would add brilliant insight. Yeah... he'd be squealing like a school girl! |
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:20:45 GMT, Don White
wrote: wrote: Don White wrote: wrote: snip.. They tow us to the dock and I go to pay. By this time I was seriously happy to be off the boat with my wife so even *the astonishing cost of $480* didn't faze me much. It was $10/ft for the ungrounding (28' sailboat) and then $165 minimum and a couple other fees. snip... Whoo hoo! Around here the Coast Guard...or some friendly boater will always come to the rescue...for free. Re-thinking this, I regret posting it. It has me blaming my wife for my predicament when I had nobody but myslf to blame. If I had displayed much more confidence and a fun atitude I could probably have talked my wife into enjoying the overnight grounding. Unfortunately, I consider sailing to be an excercise in problem solving so I do not sail for the same reasons she does. I DID invite her. I apologize. David OHara Check out this cartoon. I scanned it from a local newspaper. Seem familiar?? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...CreamPuff2.jpg Thanks, I (we) needed that! Frank |
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