Scotty wrote:
"JimC" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:


"JimC" wrote in message
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Two questions Sotty:

(1) What percentage of those comments relate to the

current Macs (the 26M)?


100%



Let me be a little more specific. - What percentage of

them were

specifically referring to the Mac 26M.



100%



(2) How many of the quotes were from individuals who

had

actually


sailed the Mac, and in particular, the 26M?


5


Do you have any evidence for this ridiculous statement

Sotty? Like

comments about when and where they sail the 26M, under

what

circumstances, what motor they use, what accessories they

added, and

why they bought a Mac 26M (if they did), etc.


Yes


Interesting. Because of all the Mac-Bashers on this ng, I know of none
who have actually sailed the 26M.

Jim

"JimC" wrote in message
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Interesting. Because of all the Mac-Bashers on this ng, I
know of none
who have actually sailed the 26M.


what you know is not necessarily reality.

S

JimC wrote:

Interesting. Because of all the Mac-Bashers on this ng, I know of none
who have actually sailed the 26M.

There was a 26X at my old marina for several years - I even got a bit
friendly with them and had hopes of getting a ride, but in two years I
only saw them out of the slip once. (Curiously, it was when we were
dashing in to beat a major thunderstorm, and they were headed out. I
hoped they were actually headed to the local ramp to haul out.)

I thought my luck would change at my new marina when I realized there
were two Macs within a few slips. In this case I never saw the
owners, and to my knowledge, each one only went out once last summer.

BTW, we had a fire at my storage yard last winter. The Carver
protected the above mentioned 26X:
http://www.sv-loki.com/AH-Fire-1.jpg

"Jeff" wrote in message
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JimC wrote:

Interesting. Because of all the Mac-Bashers on this ng,
I know of none
who have actually sailed the 26M.

There was a 26X at my old marina for several years - I
even got a bit
friendly with them and had hopes of getting a ride, but in
two years I
only saw them out of the slip once. (Curiously, it was
when we were
dashing in to beat a major thunderstorm, and they were
headed out. I
hoped they were actually headed to the local ramp to haul
out.)

I thought my luck would change at my new marina when I
realized there
were two Macs within a few slips. In this case I never
saw the
owners, and to my knowledge, each one only went out once
last summer.


A dock neighbor once commented that he almost always sees my
boat in the slip. He was a weekend warrior, and I usually
go out during the week.

Scotty

JimC wrote:
Interesting. Because of all the Mac-Bashers on this ng, I know of
none who have actually sailed the 26M.


I guess having seen several of them sailing many times
doesn't count? BTW did you ever substantiate *any* of your
claims abot the differences between the 26X and 26M other
than the hull color & the (cough) rotating mast?

FWIW I have sailed the 26X a couple of times as well as
sailing in company with them amny times over most of a decade.

Jeff wrote:
There was a 26X at my old marina for several years - I even got a bit
friendly with them and had hopes of getting a ride, but in two years I
only saw them out of the slip once.

Frankly I don't understand the "logic" of picking a boat
that makes so many compromises to be trailerable, then
keeping it in a slip.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
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Frankly I don't understand the "logic" of picking a boat
that makes so many compromises to be trailerable, then
keeping it in a slip.


Uh oh, where's Scout?

Scotty

DSK wrote:

Frankly I don't understand the "logic" of picking a boat that makes so
many compromises to be trailerable, then keeping it in a slip.

Not all the compromises are geared soley toward trailerability. For
instance:

o The near-rectangular cross-section gives roominess below.

o The ability to drain the ballast tank, unstep the mast and
turn it into a powerboat.

o The ease of stepping and unstepping the mast if you sail where
there are low bridges.

o Swing up centerboard for getting into (and out of) shallow areas.


All of the above compromises give a certain result that may be desirable
to some. All inhibit sailing performance, but performance isn't the
last word in picking a boat.

And for someone like me who wants to keep their boat right on the water
for easy access, but who takes half a dozen trailering excursions a
season, trailerability & renting a slip aren't necessarily incompatible.

Of course, I'd never own a Mac 26X or 26M.
It has a *motor*. Yeech.

//Walt

For the record, let me say that I have seen Scout's boat,
and it sure ain't no Mac26X!



Frankly I don't understand the "logic" of picking a boat that makes so
many compromises to be trailerable, then keeping it in a slip.


Walt wrote:
Not all the compromises are geared soley toward trailerability. For
instance:


Agreed.

o The near-rectangular cross-section gives roominess below.


Umm, yes... but hey it really doesn't pound in big waves!
Really!!

And that is somewhat of a compromise oriented towards
trailering, it makes it very easy & cheap to make a trailer
that fits the hull


o The ability to drain the ballast tank, unstep the mast and
turn it into a powerboat.


Agreed.

o The ease of stepping and unstepping the mast if you sail where
there are low bridges.


Agreed... although if you couldn't unstep & lower the mast,
trailering would be MUCH more difficult.


o Swing up centerboard for getting into (and out of) shallow areas.


Agreed again, but also (again) lack of this would make
trailering much more difficult.

Some of the features of the Mc26X (and/or M) are synergistic
with trailerability & some other function... but those are
all features shared by MANY other trailerable boats.

That is why I say it's a cult. They acknowledge no other
possibility and declare that their faith trumps facts which
are obvious to other people.



And for someone like me who wants to keep their boat right on the water
for easy access, but who takes half a dozen trailering excursions a
season, trailerability & renting a slip aren't necessarily incompatible.


Yes they are, dammit. Don't be a fence-straddler!


Of course, I'd never own a Mac 26X or 26M.
It has a *motor*. Yeech.


The first boat I ever owned with a motor was after 25 years
of sail-only (and a few row-only or paddle-only) boats, and
one of the first things we did was take the motor out.

Of course, another decade or so went by, and I realized that
motors were not inherently evil...

DSK