DSK wrote:


But he won't do more sailing than any other trailerable sailboat, he'll
just go slower and have a harder time steering. Why do people have to
act like the Mac26 is the *only* trailerable sailboat?

Sorry, just catching up. I couldn't find my thread. No I haven't
joined the cult just yet. There are too many things to consider and
will have analysis paralysis for a while. So what are the
recommendations for other trailerable sailboats suitable for a family of
four as described in my initial post. If I carry a dingey with motor my
kids would be satiated. Don't worry about tow weight too much, F-350 SD
Diesel can pull quite a bit. I don't want to break the bank on my first
boat. I have some experience but would like to cut my teeth for 2-3
years and then break the bank.

Carl

I would suggest you check out
http://www.trailersailor.com/
A really great site for trailersailors.

Scotty




"CJH" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:


But he won't do more sailing than any other trailerable
sailboat, he'll
just go slower and have a harder time steering. Why do
people have to
act like the Mac26 is the *only* trailerable sailboat?

Sorry, just catching up. I couldn't find my thread. No I
haven't
joined the cult just yet. There are too many things to
consider and
will have analysis paralysis for a while. So what are the
recommendations for other trailerable sailboats suitable
for a family of
four as described in my initial post. If I carry a dingey
with motor my
kids would be satiated. Don't worry about tow weight too
much, F-350 SD
Diesel can pull quite a bit. I don't want to break the
bank on my first
boat. I have some experience but would like to cut my
teeth for 2-3
years and then break the bank.

Carl

CJH wrote:
DSK wrote:


But he won't do more sailing than any other trailerable sailboat,
he'll just go slower and have a harder time steering. Why do people
have to act like the Mac26 is the *only* trailerable sailboat?


Sorry, just catching up. I couldn't find my thread. No I haven't
joined the cult just yet. There are too many things to consider and
will have analysis paralysis for a while. So what are the
recommendations for other trailerable sailboats suitable for a family of
four as described in my initial post. If I carry a dingey with motor my
kids would be satiated. Don't worry about tow weight too much, F-350 SD
Diesel can pull quite a bit. I don't want to break the bank on my first
boat. I have some experience but would like to cut my teeth for 2-3
years and then break the bank.

Carl

Your F-350 would easily tow a fairly large boat. The problem with larger
boats is the difficulty involved with getting them launched and taken
out. You might want to look at trailorable boats from Catalina, Hunter,
O'Day, etc. Also consider used boats (check yachtworld.com).

Jim

"JimC" wrote in message
et...
Your F-350 would easily tow a fairly large boat. The
problem with larger
boats is the difficulty involved with getting them
launched and taken
out. You might want to look at trailorable boats from
Catalina, Hunter,
O'Day, etc. Anything but a Mac26M!


Good advice Jim.

SBV

Scotty wrote:

"JimC" wrote in message
et...

Your F-350 would easily tow a fairly large boat. The

problem with larger

boats is the difficulty involved with getting them

launched and taken

out. You might want to look at trailorable boats from

Catalina, Hunter,

O'Day, etc. Anything but a Mac26M!



Good advice Jim.

SBV


Thanks,
Jim

"JimC" wrote in message
m...


You might want to look at trailorable boats from

Catalina, Hunter,

O'Day, etc. Anything but a Mac26M!



Good advice Jim.

SBV


Thanks,
Jim

you're welcome.

Scotty

Scotty wrote:

"JimC" wrote in message
et...

Your F-350 would easily tow a fairly large boat. The

problem with larger

boats is the difficulty involved with getting them

launched and taken

out. You might want to look at trailorable boats from

Catalina, Hunter,

O'Day, etc., in addition to the Mac.



Good advice Jim.

SBV


Thanks,
Jim

But he won't do more sailing than any other trailerable sailboat,
he'll just go slower and have a harder time steering. Why do people
have to act like the Mac26 is the *only* trailerable sailboat?


CJH wrote:
Sorry, just catching up. I couldn't find my thread.

I told you, those darn cultists are pernicious!

... No I haven't
joined the cult just yet. There are too many things to consider and
will have analysis paralysis for a while. So what are the
recommendations for other trailerable sailboats suitable for a family of
four as described in my initial post. If I carry a dingey with motor my
kids would be satiated.

Get a hell-for-leather sport boat then your kids would
probably have fun blasting past the motorboats with
asymmetric spinnaker. A Henderson 33 or SR-33 or Melges 32?
They're a bit pricey though.


... Don't worry about tow weight too much, F-350 SD
Diesel can pull quite a bit. I don't want to break the bank on my first
boat. I have some experience but would like to cut my teeth for 2-3
years and then break the bank.


OK
Another question I have is, what are your tastes?
Traditional? How about this?
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._boats=1441758
or this one (no trailer included it looks like, but these
boats are made to be trailerable
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._boats=1468052

Or if your tastes are mor emodern, here's a boat that blow
the doors off a Mac26X (or -M) with their motor at full throttle
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._boats=1572063

Or one of these (these boats are actually changing hands in
the mid to upper teen$ so are not as expensive as you might
think)
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._boats=1479746

Here's a nice conventional sloop, good performance (popular
racing class, in fact) that should be roomy enough
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._boats=1593489

There are a LOT of options out there in the price range of
the Mac 26X, or much cheaper (look for a Mac 25 swing keel,
a good performing boat and the basis of two later model
MacGregors). It may take a bit of hunting but the more
leg-work you do, the better of a boat you'll find.

Hope all the BS that popped up in this thread didn't totally
turn you against sailing, or this ASA newsgroup. The Mac26X
is a controversial boat and attracts doo-flinging. Check out
the Sailing Anarchy forums on the subject and you'll see
some real artists (and cultists) at work.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

DSK wrote:

I told you, those darn cultists are pernicious!

Yeah, I didn't want people to think I lobbed a grenade and ran as my
first post to the group.

Get a hell-for-leather sport boat then your kids would probably have fun

That's what they want...all that matters is to go fast and beat the 21ft
Chris-Craft. Oh, and water ski and tube, etc. I was just looking at
sailboats and my sons were changing "motor boat, motor boat" in the
background.

OK
Another question I have is, what are your tastes? Traditional?

Ignoring my family's taste as described above, my taste is traditional.
My first preference would be a traditional sail boat in a slip
at Oceanside Harbor.

I like this boat below. I am 90% sure it is owned by the guy who sold
my friend his boat (he had 3). It's not what I'm looking for but I like it.
http://www.boats.com/listing/boat_de...p%26is%3Dfalse

Here's another that I like that is more in my price range.
http://www.boats.com/listing/boat_de...0%26is%3Dfalse

I'm not in any hurry. The key is to have the money on stand by and wait
for the right boat to come along.

I have been thinking about building a Bateau V10 with my boys while I
research and wait. The idea is that we can use this as a lake boat when
we go camping and they can learn from the building process. Then I
change my mind and think that I should just buy a small sail or motor
boat and enjoy it while waiting. Analysis paralysis sets in and I take
a valium and go to bed.


Hope all the BS that popped up in this thread didn't totally turn you
against sailing, or this ASA newsgroup.

No, it hasn't turned me off but I have held my tongue! You definitely
need to watch what you say around here. I haven't taken the Mac off of
my list yet. (oh god, I said it.)

Get a hell-for-leather sport boat then your kids would probably have fun


CJH wrote:
That's what they want...all that matters is to go fast and beat the 21ft
Chris-Craft. Oh, and water ski and tube, etc. I was just looking at
sailboats and my sons were changing "motor boat, motor boat" in the
background.


http://www.rocketboats.com/home.html

You could name it "Motor Boat."
Actually one of these would be pretty cramped for a family,
but it would make a great camper-cruiser. And it's total
blast, under the right conditions (windy) would beat that
Chris-Craft!


I like this boat below. I am 90% sure it is owned by the guy who sold
my friend his boat (he had 3). It's not what I'm looking for but I like
it.
http://www.boats.com/listing/boat_de...p%26is%3Dfalse


Those are nice, used to be one just down the dock from us...
a couple that had circumnavigated in it. Not a boat for
speed thrills though



Here's another that I like that is more in my price range.
http://www.boats.com/listing/boat_de...0%26is%3Dfalse


Kinda like Pizza Hut though, I mean you see them everywhere.
And not trailerable, although there are a few boats of
similar form that are trailerable. That S-2 7.9 is a bit
smaller but should still be roomy enough for a family of 4
and has better performance than the Catalina 27 (much
better, but it's not a motor boat substitute).




I'm not in any hurry. The key is to have the money on stand by and wait
for the right boat to come along.


Or get something that's relatively inexpensive to start
having fun now... not to be in a hurry but to get some miles
of water under you & your kids!

One of the best things about a small to medium sized
sailboat, from a kids standpoint, is that he (or she) can
command it. It's much much safer than a car (once they learn
the basics), they can be totally independent, they can bring
friends along.



I have been thinking about building a Bateau V10 with my boys while I
research and wait. The idea is that we can use this as a lake boat when
we go camping and they can learn from the building process.

That sounds like fun too. Good basis for practical skills
that will come in handy later on.


Then I
change my mind and think that I should just buy a small sail or motor
boat and enjoy it while waiting. Analysis paralysis sets in and I take
a valium and go to bed.


Old engineering maxim: "If you have enough information, the
decision makes itself."

I'm facing a somewhat similar problem myself, wanting to get
a boat for fun sailing & maybe some racing, but keep
thinking about a traditional boat for sailing with my
father... maybe a small gaff cutter... but then I also have
a lot of major & hectic disturbances in my life this year,
so can't really make any headway on it.



I haven't taken the Mac off of
my list yet. (oh god, I said it.)

S'OK... just don't convince yourself it's the *ONLY* option,
or that you want it for reasons that turn out to be false
(like how it's blazing fast). If it works for you, then that
would be great.

BTW if this helps, I've pulled tubes & boogie boards with
medium size racing sailboats. It's more fun than you'd
think. In fact I once sailed 9 miles pulling a college buddy
on a surfboard, flying a spinnaker, in a Lightning... brief
film on TV with that one.

DSK