DSK wrote:

JimC wrote:

Doug, read the damn note a little more carefully before you pop off
like that. Those comments were quotes from owners of Mac 26Ms
expressing their own opinions of their own boats, posted here by me to
give the OP some idea of what other 26M owners thought about the boat.


No quote attributions, sorry. I'm not a mind reader.

And your statements were quite clear. I only object to the ones that are
also quite wrong.


The quotes were segregated between dashed lines. I would have thought
that my lead in introduction, copied below, would have given you a hint.

Jim




Carl,

FYI, here are some comments from some guys who have actually bought (and
sailed) a Mac 26M, when asked what they thought about the boat and
whether they would buy the same boat again:

----------------------------------------------------------------
If the clock could be turned back, would you buy again? - Yes,she's a
great versatile boat that offers great options on sailing or powering. I
....

What does this prove? Here's some more quotes about the
mac26Xm.

''John ''wrote....the Mac 26 is the flimsiest, ugliest POS
I've ever seen.


''JrJelly'' wrote.....the hull oil cans like a cheap screen
door. I'd be afraid to sail one of those anywhere but in my
pool.

"BFCrede" wrote..... buy a MacGregor 26? Don't make me
laugh!

" tommyGun'' wrote....(Mac26) worse boat in history

''BlueWaterBoy'' wrote.... while looking at the Mac 26 , it
was all I could do to not heave on the dam thing .

''KeViN'' wrote..... don't waste your money on a Magreger
26. It's not a sailboat and it's not a power boat. It's just
plain awfull!






"JimC" wrote in message
...
Doug, read the damn note a little more carefully before
you pop off like
that. Those comments were quotes from owners of Mac 26Ms
expressing
their own opinions of their own boats, posted here by me
to give the OP
some idea of what other 26M owners thought about the boat.
My own
opinions, posted over and over again, have been that the
Macs have good
and bad points and are not suited for everyone or for
every intended
use, but that there ought to be a little more balance in
some of the
discussions of the Mac. - What do you expect me to do? -
Track down
those Mac owners and tell them that they don't know what
they are
talking about and that they ought to apologize and issue a
retraction of
their comments? Apparently, the thought that some Mac
owners like their
boats and enjoy sailing them drives you up a wall.

Jim




DSK wrote:
JimC wrote:

The boat's best features: Sailing ability.She sails as
well as any
boat costing double the price I have sailed on.


Glad you added the qualifier of boats that *you* have
sailed.

I don't mean this to be insulting, but it is a fact that
the Mac26X and
successor the -M are slow, especially to windward. There
are many boats
that are cheaper which will sail rings around it.

Of course, JimC won't admit that, and he doesn't have to
because he
himself hasn't sailed any of them. I have.



The 26M is a practical fun boat that can be used for
serious sailing
without the major costs involved.


It is a practical fun boat that can have sails hoisted.



The boat's best features: She doesn't pound in 3 foot
rollers at
speeds of 14- 16 mph.


???

... She will sail well with just the main.


She won't sail "well" ever, unless you like going slow &
steering poorly.



.... There is something to be said about going to
Catalina and
arriving 2 or 3 hours ahead of the fastest sail boats
out there.



???

"Which "fastest" sailboats are these? Considering that
there are boats
which break 20 knots regularly, making this claim shows
your limited
knowledge & experience (or mendacity, depending).





...It will heel quite easily to 15-20 degrees, but at
this point, it
starts to lift the water ballast tank out of the water
and so stiffens
up and does not heel much more.


Physics isn't your strong suit, is it Jim? "Lifting the
water ballast
tank" has nothing to do with the boats stability. The
water ballast
tank, when full, lowers the boat's senter of gravity.

Gravity doesn't know or care if the water ballst tank is
"lifted above
the waterline."

Th "lifting above the waterline" effect of water ballast
has been stated
often, since the beginning of water ballasted boats, by
a bunch of
ignorant blowhards. I guess you believed it.




I have read many things on the web against the
macgregor. Frankly i
don't know what the _____ they are talking about.


Yep



The boat's best features: Easy to sail and forgiving,
excellent
handling under power. Mast raising system is as
advertised and a
pleasure. While rigging is neither arduous or
difficult, it is time
consuming, but not an issue for me since I keep the
vessel in a slip.
The vessel is comfortable for our use, which tends to
two adults and
(occasionally) a grandson.


I am glad that you like your boat Jim, and have a great
time with her.
It shows that you have chosen well.

But your remarks about the boat's sailing performance
are just plain
wrong, but it doesn't matter if you yourself are content
with the boat's
performance. But one might wonder why you feel the need
to either lie or
remain ignorant of what other boats are capable of.

We've had a number of friends with these boats, and they
have all been
happy with them. However they also moved on (as we did
too, from a
trailerable). I wish you many happy days aboard your
vessel.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

DSK wrote:


But he won't do more sailing than any other trailerable sailboat, he'll
just go slower and have a harder time steering. Why do people have to
act like the Mac26 is the *only* trailerable sailboat?

Sorry, just catching up. I couldn't find my thread. No I haven't
joined the cult just yet. There are too many things to consider and
will have analysis paralysis for a while. So what are the
recommendations for other trailerable sailboats suitable for a family of
four as described in my initial post. If I carry a dingey with motor my
kids would be satiated. Don't worry about tow weight too much, F-350 SD
Diesel can pull quite a bit. I don't want to break the bank on my first
boat. I have some experience but would like to cut my teeth for 2-3
years and then break the bank.

Carl

Sounds like you did a good Cherry-Picking job Sotty.

In any event, they are lots of fun to sail.

Jim






Scotty wrote:

What does this prove? Here's some more quotes about the
mac26Xm.

''John ''wrote....the Mac 26 is the flimsiest, ugliest POS
I've ever seen.


''JrJelly'' wrote.....the hull oil cans like a cheap screen
door. I'd be afraid to sail one of those anywhere but in my
pool.

"BFCrede" wrote..... buy a MacGregor 26? Don't make me
laugh!

" tommyGun'' wrote....(Mac26) worse boat in history

''BlueWaterBoy'' wrote.... while looking at the Mac 26 , it
was all I could do to not heave on the dam thing .

''KeViN'' wrote..... don't waste your money on a Magreger
26. It's not a sailboat and it's not a power boat. It's just
plain awfull!






"JimC" wrote in message
...

Doug, read the damn note a little more carefully before

you pop off like

that. Those comments were quotes from owners of Mac 26Ms

expressing

their own opinions of their own boats, posted here by me

to give the OP

some idea of what other 26M owners thought about the boat.

My own

opinions, posted over and over again, have been that the

Macs have good

and bad points and are not suited for everyone or for

every intended

use, but that there ought to be a little more balance in

some of the

discussions of the Mac. - What do you expect me to do? -

Track down

those Mac owners and tell them that they don't know what

they are

talking about and that they ought to apologize and issue a

retraction of

their comments? Apparently, the thought that some Mac

owners like their

boats and enjoy sailing them drives you up a wall.

Jim




DSK wrote:

JimC wrote:


The boat's best features: Sailing ability.She sails as

well as any

boat costing double the price I have sailed on.


Glad you added the qualifier of boats that *you* have

sailed.

I don't mean this to be insulting, but it is a fact that

the Mac26X and

successor the -M are slow, especially to windward. There

are many boats

that are cheaper which will sail rings around it.

Of course, JimC won't admit that, and he doesn't have to

because he

himself hasn't sailed any of them. I have.



The 26M is a practical fun boat that can be used for

serious sailing

without the major costs involved.


It is a practical fun boat that can have sails hoisted.



The boat's best features: She doesn't pound in 3 foot

rollers at

speeds of 14- 16 mph.


???


... She will sail well with just the main.


She won't sail "well" ever, unless you like going slow &

steering poorly.



.... There is something to be said about going to

Catalina and

arriving 2 or 3 hours ahead of the fastest sail boats

out there.



???

"Which "fastest" sailboats are these? Considering that

there are boats

which break 20 knots regularly, making this claim shows

your limited

knowledge & experience (or mendacity, depending).





...It will heel quite easily to 15-20 degrees, but at

this point, it

starts to lift the water ballast tank out of the water

and so stiffens

up and does not heel much more.


Physics isn't your strong suit, is it Jim? "Lifting the

water ballast

tank" has nothing to do with the boats stability. The

water ballast

tank, when full, lowers the boat's senter of gravity.

Gravity doesn't know or care if the water ballst tank is

"lifted above

the waterline."

Th "lifting above the waterline" effect of water ballast

has been stated

often, since the beginning of water ballasted boats, by

a bunch of

ignorant blowhards. I guess you believed it.




I have read many things on the web against the

macgregor. Frankly i

don't know what the _____ they are talking about.


Yep



The boat's best features: Easy to sail and forgiving,

excellent

handling under power. Mast raising system is as

advertised and a

pleasure. While rigging is neither arduous or

difficult, it is time

consuming, but not an issue for me since I keep the

vessel in a slip.

The vessel is comfortable for our use, which tends to

two adults and

(occasionally) a grandson.


I am glad that you like your boat Jim, and have a great

time with her.

It shows that you have chosen well.

But your remarks about the boat's sailing performance

are just plain

wrong, but it doesn't matter if you yourself are content

with the boat's

performance. But one might wonder why you feel the need

to either lie or

remain ignorant of what other boats are capable of.

We've had a number of friends with these boats, and they

have all been

happy with them. However they also moved on (as we did

too, from a

trailerable). I wish you many happy days aboard your

vessel.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Thanks Jim. Interesting comments.

Two questions Sotty:

(1) What percentage of those comments relate to the current Macs (the 26M)?

(2) How many of the quotes were from individuals who had actually
sailed the Mac, and in particular, the 26M?


(Helpful hint: Since you won't have any substantive answers, just avoid
answering the questions. - Post some more propaganda.)

Jim




Scotty wrote:
What does this prove? Here's some more quotes about the
mac26Xm.

''John ''wrote....the Mac 26 is the flimsiest, ugliest POS
I've ever seen.


''JrJelly'' wrote.....the hull oil cans like a cheap screen
door. I'd be afraid to sail one of those anywhere but in my
pool.

"BFCrede" wrote..... buy a MacGregor 26? Don't make me
laugh!

" tommyGun'' wrote....(Mac26) worse boat in history

''BlueWaterBoy'' wrote.... while looking at the Mac 26 , it
was all I could do to not heave on the dam thing .

''KeViN'' wrote..... don't waste your money on a Magreger
26. It's not a sailboat and it's not a power boat. It's just
plain awfull!






"JimC" wrote in message
...

Doug, read the damn note a little more carefully before

you pop off like

that. Those comments were quotes from owners of Mac 26Ms

expressing

their own opinions of their own boats, posted here by me

to give the OP

some idea of what other 26M owners thought about the boat.

My own

opinions, posted over and over again, have been that the

Macs have good

and bad points and are not suited for everyone or for

every intended

use, but that there ought to be a little more balance in

some of the

discussions of the Mac. - What do you expect me to do? -

Track down

those Mac owners and tell them that they don't know what

they are

talking about and that they ought to apologize and issue a

retraction of

their comments? Apparently, the thought that some Mac

owners like their

boats and enjoy sailing them drives you up a wall.

Jim




DSK wrote:

JimC wrote:


The boat's best features: Sailing ability.She sails as

well as any

boat costing double the price I have sailed on.


Glad you added the qualifier of boats that *you* have

sailed.

I don't mean this to be insulting, but it is a fact that

the Mac26X and

successor the -M are slow, especially to windward. There

are many boats

that are cheaper which will sail rings around it.

Of course, JimC won't admit that, and he doesn't have to

because he

himself hasn't sailed any of them. I have.



The 26M is a practical fun boat that can be used for

serious sailing

without the major costs involved.


It is a practical fun boat that can have sails hoisted.



The boat's best features: She doesn't pound in 3 foot

rollers at

speeds of 14- 16 mph.


???


... She will sail well with just the main.


She won't sail "well" ever, unless you like going slow &

steering poorly.



.... There is something to be said about going to

Catalina and

arriving 2 or 3 hours ahead of the fastest sail boats

out there.



???

"Which "fastest" sailboats are these? Considering that

there are boats

which break 20 knots regularly, making this claim shows

your limited

knowledge & experience (or mendacity, depending).





...It will heel quite easily to 15-20 degrees, but at

this point, it

starts to lift the water ballast tank out of the water

and so stiffens

up and does not heel much more.


Physics isn't your strong suit, is it Jim? "Lifting the

water ballast

tank" has nothing to do with the boats stability. The

water ballast

tank, when full, lowers the boat's senter of gravity.

Gravity doesn't know or care if the water ballst tank is

"lifted above

the waterline."

Th "lifting above the waterline" effect of water ballast

has been stated

often, since the beginning of water ballasted boats, by

a bunch of

ignorant blowhards. I guess you believed it.




I have read many things on the web against the

macgregor. Frankly i

don't know what the _____ they are talking about.


Yep



The boat's best features: Easy to sail and forgiving,

excellent

handling under power. Mast raising system is as

advertised and a

pleasure. While rigging is neither arduous or

difficult, it is time

consuming, but not an issue for me since I keep the

vessel in a slip.

The vessel is comfortable for our use, which tends to

two adults and

(occasionally) a grandson.


I am glad that you like your boat Jim, and have a great

time with her.

It shows that you have chosen well.

But your remarks about the boat's sailing performance

are just plain

wrong, but it doesn't matter if you yourself are content

with the boat's

performance. But one might wonder why you feel the need

to either lie or

remain ignorant of what other boats are capable of.

We've had a number of friends with these boats, and they

have all been

happy with them. However they also moved on (as we did

too, from a

trailerable). I wish you many happy days aboard your

vessel.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"JimC" wrote in message
et...
Sounds like you did a good Cherry-Picking job Sotty.

As did you.



In any event, they are lots of fun to sail.


I'm sure they are, under the right conditions.

Scotty















Scotty wrote:

What does this prove? Here's some more quotes about the
mac26Xm.

''John ''wrote....the Mac 26 is the flimsiest, ugliest
POS
I've ever seen.


''JrJelly'' wrote.....the hull oil cans like a cheap
screen
door. I'd be afraid to sail one of those anywhere but in
my
pool.

"BFCrede" wrote..... buy a MacGregor 26? Don't make me
laugh!

" tommyGun'' wrote....(Mac26) worse boat in history

''BlueWaterBoy'' wrote.... while looking at the Mac 26 ,
it
was all I could do to not heave on the dam thing .

''KeViN'' wrote..... don't waste your money on a
Magreger
26. It's not a sailboat and it's not a power boat. It's
just
plain awfull!






"JimC" wrote in message
...

Doug, read the damn note a little more carefully before

you pop off like

that. Those comments were quotes from owners of Mac 26Ms

expressing

their own opinions of their own boats, posted here by me

to give the OP

some idea of what other 26M owners thought about the
boat.

My own

opinions, posted over and over again, have been that the

Macs have good

and bad points and are not suited for everyone or for

every intended

use, but that there ought to be a little more balance in

some of the

discussions of the Mac. - What do you expect me to
do? -

Track down

those Mac owners and tell them that they don't know what

they are

talking about and that they ought to apologize and issue
a

retraction of

their comments? Apparently, the thought that some Mac

owners like their

boats and enjoy sailing them drives you up a wall.

Jim




DSK wrote:

JimC wrote:


The boat's best features: Sailing ability.She sails
as

well as any

boat costing double the price I have sailed on.


Glad you added the qualifier of boats that *you* have

sailed.

I don't mean this to be insulting, but it is a fact
that

the Mac26X and

successor the -M are slow, especially to windward.
There

are many boats

that are cheaper which will sail rings around it.

Of course, JimC won't admit that, and he doesn't have
to

because he

himself hasn't sailed any of them. I have.



The 26M is a practical fun boat that can be used for

serious sailing

without the major costs involved.


It is a practical fun boat that can have sails hoisted.



The boat's best features: She doesn't pound in 3 foot

rollers at

speeds of 14- 16 mph.


???


... She will sail well with just the main.


She won't sail "well" ever, unless you like going slow
&

steering poorly.



.... There is something to be said about going to

Catalina and

arriving 2 or 3 hours ahead of the fastest sail boats

out there.



???

"Which "fastest" sailboats are these? Considering that

there are boats

which break 20 knots regularly, making this claim shows

your limited

knowledge & experience (or mendacity, depending).





...It will heel quite easily to 15-20 degrees, but at

this point, it

starts to lift the water ballast tank out of the water

and so stiffens

up and does not heel much more.


Physics isn't your strong suit, is it Jim? "Lifting the

water ballast

tank" has nothing to do with the boats stability. The

water ballast

tank, when full, lowers the boat's senter of gravity.

Gravity doesn't know or care if the water ballst tank
is

"lifted above

the waterline."

Th "lifting above the waterline" effect of water
ballast

has been stated

often, since the beginning of water ballasted boats, by

a bunch of

ignorant blowhards. I guess you believed it.




I have read many things on the web against the

macgregor. Frankly i

don't know what the _____ they are talking about.


Yep



The boat's best features: Easy to sail and forgiving,

excellent

handling under power. Mast raising system is as

advertised and a

pleasure. While rigging is neither arduous or

difficult, it is time

consuming, but not an issue for me since I keep the

vessel in a slip.

The vessel is comfortable for our use, which tends to

two adults and

(occasionally) a grandson.


I am glad that you like your boat Jim, and have a great

time with her.

It shows that you have chosen well.

But your remarks about the boat's sailing performance

are just plain

wrong, but it doesn't matter if you yourself are
content

with the boat's

performance. But one might wonder why you feel the need

to either lie or

remain ignorant of what other boats are capable of.

We've had a number of friends with these boats, and
they

have all been

happy with them. However they also moved on (as we did

too, from a

trailerable). I wish you many happy days aboard your

vessel.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"JimC" wrote in message
et...
Two questions Sotty:

(1) What percentage of those comments relate to the
current Macs (the 26M)?


100%


(2) How many of the quotes were from individuals who had
actually
sailed the Mac, and in particular, the 26M?

5


(Helpful hint: Since you won't have any substantive
answers, just avoid
answering the questions. - Post some more propaganda.)


You first.

Scotty








Scotty wrote:
What does this prove? Here's some more quotes about the
mac26Xm.

''John ''wrote....the Mac 26 is the flimsiest, ugliest
POS
I've ever seen.


''JrJelly'' wrote.....the hull oil cans like a cheap
screen
door. I'd be afraid to sail one of those anywhere but in
my
pool.

"BFCrede" wrote..... buy a MacGregor 26? Don't make me
laugh!

" tommyGun'' wrote....(Mac26) worse boat in history

''BlueWaterBoy'' wrote.... while looking at the Mac 26 ,
it
was all I could do to not heave on the dam thing .

''KeViN'' wrote..... don't waste your money on a
Magreger
26. It's not a sailboat and it's not a power boat. It's
just
plain awfull!






"JimC" wrote in message
...

Doug, read the damn note a little more carefully before

you pop off like

that. Those comments were quotes from owners of Mac 26Ms

expressing

their own opinions of their own boats, posted here by me

to give the OP

some idea of what other 26M owners thought about the
boat.

My own

opinions, posted over and over again, have been that the

Macs have good

and bad points and are not suited for everyone or for

every intended

use, but that there ought to be a little more balance in

some of the

discussions of the Mac. - What do you expect me to
do? -

Track down

those Mac owners and tell them that they don't know what

they are

talking about and that they ought to apologize and issue
a

retraction of

their comments? Apparently, the thought that some Mac

owners like their

boats and enjoy sailing them drives you up a wall.

Jim




DSK wrote:

JimC wrote:


The boat's best features: Sailing ability.She sails
as

well as any

boat costing double the price I have sailed on.


Glad you added the qualifier of boats that *you* have

sailed.

I don't mean this to be insulting, but it is a fact
that

the Mac26X and

successor the -M are slow, especially to windward.
There

are many boats

that are cheaper which will sail rings around it.

Of course, JimC won't admit that, and he doesn't have
to

because he

himself hasn't sailed any of them. I have.



The 26M is a practical fun boat that can be used for

serious sailing

without the major costs involved.


It is a practical fun boat that can have sails hoisted.



The boat's best features: She doesn't pound in 3 foot

rollers at

speeds of 14- 16 mph.


???


... She will sail well with just the main.


She won't sail "well" ever, unless you like going slow
&

steering poorly.



.... There is something to be said about going to

Catalina and

arriving 2 or 3 hours ahead of the fastest sail boats

out there.



???

"Which "fastest" sailboats are these? Considering that

there are boats

which break 20 knots regularly, making this claim shows

your limited

knowledge & experience (or mendacity, depending).





...It will heel quite easily to 15-20 degrees, but at

this point, it

starts to lift the water ballast tank out of the water

and so stiffens

up and does not heel much more.


Physics isn't your strong suit, is it Jim? "Lifting the

water ballast

tank" has nothing to do with the boats stability. The

water ballast

tank, when full, lowers the boat's senter of gravity.

Gravity doesn't know or care if the water ballst tank
is

"lifted above

the waterline."

Th "lifting above the waterline" effect of water
ballast

has been stated

often, since the beginning of water ballasted boats, by

a bunch of

ignorant blowhards. I guess you believed it.




I have read many things on the web against the

macgregor. Frankly i

don't know what the _____ they are talking about.


Yep



The boat's best features: Easy to sail and forgiving,

excellent

handling under power. Mast raising system is as

advertised and a

pleasure. While rigging is neither arduous or

difficult, it is time

consuming, but not an issue for me since I keep the

vessel in a slip.

The vessel is comfortable for our use, which tends to

two adults and

(occasionally) a grandson.


I am glad that you like your boat Jim, and have a great

time with her.

It shows that you have chosen well.

But your remarks about the boat's sailing performance

are just plain

wrong, but it doesn't matter if you yourself are
content

with the boat's

performance. But one might wonder why you feel the need

to either lie or

remain ignorant of what other boats are capable of.

We've had a number of friends with these boats, and
they

have all been

happy with them. However they also moved on (as we did

too, from a

trailerable). I wish you many happy days aboard your

vessel.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

I would suggest you check out
http://www.trailersailor.com/
A really great site for trailersailors.

Scotty




"CJH" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:


But he won't do more sailing than any other trailerable
sailboat, he'll
just go slower and have a harder time steering. Why do
people have to
act like the Mac26 is the *only* trailerable sailboat?

Sorry, just catching up. I couldn't find my thread. No I
haven't
joined the cult just yet. There are too many things to
consider and
will have analysis paralysis for a while. So what are the
recommendations for other trailerable sailboats suitable
for a family of
four as described in my initial post. If I carry a dingey
with motor my
kids would be satiated. Don't worry about tow weight too
much, F-350 SD
Diesel can pull quite a bit. I don't want to break the
bank on my first
boat. I have some experience but would like to cut my
teeth for 2-3
years and then break the bank.

Carl

Scotty wrote:

"JimC" wrote in message
et...

Two questions Sotty:

(1) What percentage of those comments relate to the

current Macs (the 26M)?


100%



Let me be a little more specific. - What percentage of them were
specifically referring to the Mac 26M.

(Don't forget that it's a sin to tell a lie Sotty.)



(2) How many of the quotes were from individuals who had

actually

sailed the Mac, and in particular, the 26M?


5


Do you have any evidence for this ridiculous statement Sotty? Like
comments about when and where they sail the 26M, under what
circumstances, what motor they use, what accessories they added, and
why they bought a Mac 26M (if they did), etc.



(Helpful hint: Since you won't have any substantive

answers, just avoid

answering the questions. - Post some more propaganda.)



You first.

Scotty


Actually, I posted quotes from owners of Mac 26M's who sailed the Mac
26M as their primary vessel. - You didn't. What's worse is that you
won't admit it.

Jim



y wrote:

What does this prove? Here's some more quotes about the
mac26Xm.

''John ''wrote....the Mac 26 is the flimsiest, ugliest

POS

I've ever seen.


''JrJelly'' wrote.....the hull oil cans like a cheap

screen

door. I'd be afraid to sail one of those anywhere but in

my

pool.

"BFCrede" wrote..... buy a MacGregor 26? Don't make me
laugh!

" tommyGun'' wrote....(Mac26) worse boat in history

''BlueWaterBoy'' wrote.... while looking at the Mac 26 ,

it

was all I could do to not heave on the dam thing .

''KeViN'' wrote..... don't waste your money on a

Magreger

26. It's not a sailboat and it's not a power boat. It's

just

plain awfull!






"JimC" wrote in message
. com...


Doug, read the damn note a little more carefully before

you pop off like


that. Those comments were quotes from owners of Mac 26Ms

expressing


their own opinions of their own boats, posted here by me

to give the OP


some idea of what other 26M owners thought about the

boat.

My own


opinions, posted over and over again, have been that the

Macs have good


and bad points and are not suited for everyone or for

every intended


use, but that there ought to be a little more balance in

some of the


discussions of the Mac. - What do you expect me to

do? -

Track down


those Mac owners and tell them that they don't know what

they are


talking about and that they ought to apologize and issue

a

retraction of


their comments? Apparently, the thought that some Mac

owners like their


boats and enjoy sailing them drives you up a wall.

Jim




DSK wrote:


JimC wrote:



The boat's best features: Sailing ability.She sails

as

well as any


boat costing double the price I have sailed on.


Glad you added the qualifier of boats that *you* have

sailed.


I don't mean this to be insulting, but it is a fact

that

the Mac26X and


successor the -M are slow, especially to windward.

There

are many boats


that are cheaper which will sail rings around it.

Of course, JimC won't admit that, and he doesn't have

to

because he


himself hasn't sailed any of them. I have.




The 26M is a practical fun boat that can be used for

serious sailing


without the major costs involved.


It is a practical fun boat that can have sails hoisted.




The boat's best features: She doesn't pound in 3 foot

rollers at


speeds of 14- 16 mph.


???



... She will sail well with just the main.


She won't sail "well" ever, unless you like going slow

&

steering poorly.



.... There is something to be said about going to

Catalina and


arriving 2 or 3 hours ahead of the fastest sail boats

out there.



???

"Which "fastest" sailboats are these? Considering that

there are boats


which break 20 knots regularly, making this claim shows

your limited


knowledge & experience (or mendacity, depending).






...It will heel quite easily to 15-20 degrees, but at

this point, it


starts to lift the water ballast tank out of the water

and so stiffens


up and does not heel much more.


Physics isn't your strong suit, is it Jim? "Lifting the

water ballast


tank" has nothing to do with the boats stability. The

water ballast


tank, when full, lowers the boat's senter of gravity.

Gravity doesn't know or care if the water ballst tank

is

"lifted above


the waterline."

Th "lifting above the waterline" effect of water

ballast

has been stated


often, since the beginning of water ballasted boats, by

a bunch of


ignorant blowhards. I guess you believed it.





I have read many things on the web against the

macgregor. Frankly i


don't know what the _____ they are talking about.


Yep




The boat's best features: Easy to sail and forgiving,

excellent


handling under power. Mast raising system is as

advertised and a


pleasure. While rigging is neither arduous or

difficult, it is time


consuming, but not an issue for me since I keep the

vessel in a slip.


The vessel is comfortable for our use, which tends to

two adults and


(occasionally) a grandson.


I am glad that you like your boat Jim, and have a great

time with her.


It shows that you have chosen well.

But your remarks about the boat's sailing performance

are just plain


wrong, but it doesn't matter if you yourself are

content

with the boat's


performance. But one might wonder why you feel the need

to either lie or


remain ignorant of what other boats are capable of.

We've had a number of friends with these boats, and

they

have all been


happy with them. However they also moved on (as we did

too, from a


trailerable). I wish you many happy days aboard your

vessel.


Fresh Breezes- Doug King