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This aint a troll, folks.
For those of you seeking sails for your boat I've worked out a deal with a sailmaker of good reputation. How good a deal? Let's put it this way: I can get you a tri-radial kevlar main for the price of a cross cut dacron sail at North or UK sails. I can get you a tri-radial dacron or mylar as well, for WAY less than the other guys. And it won't be from China either. I won't deal with anyone on ASA in this forum. If you need sails and don't want to pay inflated prices, but also want real quality contact me offline and we'll chat about this on the phone. I've already sold several and everyone is happy. If no one here is interested, that's fine. I just thought I'd extend the offer. Not everyone has the cash to buy new sails at UK and they'd be shocked to know what their premium dollars are really paying for. Contact me at or and I'll arrange a contact by phone. This is certainly worth checking out if you're thinking of new sails. When you learn of the loft and sailmaker involved, I think it'll erase any doubts. Cheers, RB 35s5 NY |
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The second address is CandChelp at aol dot com. R. |
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get me a dacron main quote for a Seidelmann 295, w/ 2 reef
points. -- Scott Vernon Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_ "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... This aint a troll, folks. For those of you seeking sails for your boat I've worked out a deal with a sailmaker of good reputation. How good a deal? Let's put it this way: I can get you a tri-radial kevlar main for the price of a cross cut dacron sail at North or UK sails. I can get you a tri-radial dacron or mylar as well, for WAY less than the other guys. And it won't be from China either. I won't deal with anyone on ASA in this forum. If you need sails and don't want to pay inflated prices, but also want real quality contact me offline and we'll chat about this on the phone. I've already sold several and everyone is happy. If no one here is interested, that's fine. I just thought I'd extend the offer. Not everyone has the cash to buy new sails at UK and they'd be shocked to know what their premium dollars are really paying for. Contact me at or and I'll arrange a contact by phone. This is certainly worth checking out if you're thinking of new sails. When you learn of the loft and sailmaker involved, I think it'll erase any doubts. Cheers, RB 35s5 NY |
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I could use a nice cruising chute for my Sabre 30...
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scotty" wrote in message ... get me a dacron main quote for a Seidelmann 295, w/ 2 reef points. -- Scott Vernon Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_ "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... This aint a troll, folks. For those of you seeking sails for your boat I've worked out a deal with a sailmaker of good reputation. How good a deal? Let's put it this way: I can get you a tri-radial kevlar main for the price of a cross cut dacron sail at North or UK sails. I can get you a tri-radial dacron or mylar as well, for WAY less than the other guys. And it won't be from China either. I won't deal with anyone on ASA in this forum. If you need sails and don't want to pay inflated prices, but also want real quality contact me offline and we'll chat about this on the phone. I've already sold several and everyone is happy. If no one here is interested, that's fine. I just thought I'd extend the offer. Not everyone has the cash to buy new sails at UK and they'd be shocked to know what their premium dollars are really paying for. Contact me at or and I'll arrange a contact by phone. This is certainly worth checking out if you're thinking of new sails. When you learn of the loft and sailmaker involved, I think it'll erase any doubts. Cheers, RB 35s5 NY |
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Watch out fellow asa people. This deal has been offered before. A
number of sailors lost money. It was discovered that the Boobster had hooked up with, let's say, a less than honest employee at a sailoft who was going to operate the sewing machine at night after the boss went home. That guy got fired. I guess the Boob has suckered another apprentice into thinking he can make extra money after hours. Stay away. Buy a sail at your local loft where your boat will get measured (your new main will reach full hoist) and you'll get good service. If the Boob's connections were really safe why would he buy used. |
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Watch out fellow asa people. This deal has been offered before. A number of sailors lost money. Nice try, Sloco. The people involved are a loft and the owner of a particlular loft in business for many years. Like I said, a chat on the phone will erase any doubts. No under the table deals. This is from a real and reputable loft. If you buy a sail, you may report what happened here, but I won't. There's no harm in looking into it, now is there? RB 35s5 NY |
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get me a dacron main quote for a Seidelmann 295, w/ 2 reef points. Scotty, if you're serious, contact me via e-mail and we'll talk about what you need. You can get the quote yourself directly. I'm no middleman. I think you'll be shocked at how good a price you'll get for a top notch sail. Like I said, contact me if you're serious. R. |
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Contact me via e-mail and I'll arrange a quote. RB 35s5 NY |
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If anyone thought you had an ounce of integrity you might actually sell something with a pitch like that. Hey, man. It's your money. If you think I'm anything but totally professional outside of this forum you can contact my yard and see what they think of me. If you need sails and want to pay more...that's up to you of course, Dave. I have no hard feelings towards anyone here and don't earn anything but good will from others my making such an offer. RB 35s5 NY |
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Gilligan wrote: http://www.towndock.net/sails/newsails.html Gilly, I can beat those prices by a serious margin as well. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I could use a nice cruising chute for my Sabre 30... Have you tried Atlantic Sail Traders? The Sabre 30 is a fairly common size--I'd suspect there might be quite a few spinnakers for your boat there. Max |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... If anyone thought you had an ounce of integrity you might actually sell something with a pitch like that. Hey, man. It's your money. If you think I'm anything but totally professional outside of this forum you can contact my yard and see what they think of me. That would be Mom, Grandma, Grandpa, and your sister, right? g Max |
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There are a lot easier ways to earn good will on this forum. You misunderstand me. I meant good will from the loft. It doesn't matter to me if you take advantage of this or not. RB |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote | This is certainly worth checking out if you're | thinking of new sails. When you learn of the loft and sailmaker | involved, I think it'll erase any doubts. How much for a new tri-radial main and jib for my Tangerine? Two sets of reef points in the main would be nice. I don't have any reef points at all now. Cheers, Ellen |
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Too good to be true?
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me! Is there a reputation to back this up? What undisclosed benefit is RB getting? |
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I haven't tried, but I'll probably put that off until the spring.. well, we
do typically get light winds in the winter, so maybe I *will* consider it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Maxprop" wrote in message link.net... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I could use a nice cruising chute for my Sabre 30... Have you tried Atlantic Sail Traders? The Sabre 30 is a fairly common size--I'd suspect there might be quite a few spinnakers for your boat there. Max |
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I know someone who needs a truss...
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On 16 Oct 2006 18:24:45 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said: don't earn anything but good will from others my making such an offer. There are a lot easier ways to earn good will on this forum. When are ya gonna list that bridge on Ebay? |
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Gilligan wrote:
Too good to be true? Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me! Is there a reputation to back this up? What undisclosed benefit is RB getting? Yup, a long time rep, better than many. As for the benefit, what difference does that make. Makes no difference. Only one person here has actually e-mailed me for a real quote with specs and info. I can't answer the rest in a public forum. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... On 16 Oct 2006 18:24:45 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said: don't earn anything but good will from others my making such an offer. There are a lot easier ways to earn good will on this forum. When are ya gonna list that bridge on Ebay? Right after he steals it. |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... get me a dacron main quote for a Seidelmann 295, w/ 2 reef points. Scotty, if you're serious, contact me via e-mail and we'll talk about what you need. You can get the quote yourself directly. I'm no middleman. I think you'll be shocked at how good a price you'll get for a top notch sail. Like I said, contact me if you're serious. I am serious. Get me a quote. SV |
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Like I said, contact me if you're serious. I am serious. Get me a quote. I'd be more than happy to, but not in this forum. If you're serious then e-mail me and I'll get a quote on a tri-radial cruising main with two reef points. I'll give you the quote and contact info for the loft. If you don't like what you hear you can try another loft. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... As for the benefit, what difference does that make. Makes no difference. It makes all the difference in the world. That is why you are recommending this particular loft. There is something in it for you. If it truly makes no difference, then it shouldn't make a difference what loft you recommend. You can't even be honest about you getting benefits from other's transactions. Honesty and full disclosure is what set fiduciaries apart from flim-flam men. Those sails are full of nothing but your hot air! |
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Does that loft realize the potential damage it is doing to its reputation by
associating with you? I hope the owner searches USENET looking for your email address. The abuse, lies, lies and more lies are well documented for all to see. When you say: "When you learn of the loft and sailmaker involved, I think it'll erase any doubts." You are the source of the doubts. Are you using the loft to try and salvage your reputation? Sorry, it doesn't fly here. A decent man would notify the loft of what you do here and on other forums and then they can decide if they really want you as a front man. Go climb back into your soiled bed - you made it!! Lloyd Bonifide, sailing since before the Korean War. |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:18:08 -0600, Bob Crantz/Lloyd Bonafide,/Ed Wood/ Bluto/Gilligan said: [snip] Trying to play the entire Greek chorus again, Bob/LLoyd/Ed/Bluto/Gilligan? No, just the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. How am I doing? Were you a tattletale in grade school? Did you prematurely throw out the punch line when someone was telling a joke in junior high? Head hall monitor in high school? Was your nickname Niedermeyer in college? Did you go on to become a lawyer? Amen! |
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Go climb back into your soiled bed - you made it!! Is that the bed I made by selling 7 sailboats this summer from 11K to 144K? Or is that the bed I made creating deals with local lofts for our club and one other? Now you say it's the bed I made because I'm offering sails at a steep savings? I have sail jobs pending for Tartan 37, Catalina 30 and 320, J33 and now a person on ASA. Two orders are already paid and I just started this 9 days ago. Nobody cares about trolling online and very few people hang out here once they see what's going on. Still, I know people are seriously nasty and vindictive here, so I don't include professional contact info ever. Pay what you want. Catalina 30 Tri-radial cruising main, double reefs, full batten with 7% roach added-some custom features as well were added. New and shipped for 1629.00. Wanna know what North would charge? And this sail is made from a better material (or you can have the same for a lower cost) and can be custom cut. As I said, pay what you want elsewhere...but it'll be more and you'll get nothing in return for those extra dollars. Buh bye. RB 35s5 NY |
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You can't even be honest about you getting benefits from other's transactions. Sure I can. Can't you read? I simply won't disclose it here. Call me or e-mail for sail info and I'll happily tell all. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... You can't even be honest about you getting benefits from other's transactions. Sure I can. Can't you read? I simply won't disclose it here. Call me or e-mail for sail info and I'll happily tell all. RB 35s5 NY "As for the benefit, what difference does that make. Makes no difference." But it does make a difference. That's because you don't represent the best interests of either the loft or buyer. You are concerned first about your interests. The benefit is obvious. Find enough people to buy sails via you and you get free sails. You'll brag about it forever. Mark up on sails is about 2x. Figure selling 10 sails at about $1500 a pop (it is slow season now) and the owner can toss you a sail for free which only costs him $750 in materials, labor and overhead. The owner pulls in $7500 in profit on $15,000 in sails and gives you 10% in the form of a free sail. "As for the benefit, what difference does that make. Makes no difference." If it makes no difference then why hide it? You don't have to divulge the Loft's name. |
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The whole thing stinks of boiler room sales tactics.
How many FTC regulations are being violated here? Red flags all over the place! |
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If it makes no difference then why hide it? You don't have to divulge the Loft's name. It makes a difference to divulge it here...because this is troll world. This ends the discussion on this deal. I'm glad one person here will do well by it, besides me. Like your van thread, this is now a dead topic. Only direct e-mail on the topic and a phone call will get you more info. As to the rest of your guesses on profits, my profit and so on...all dead wrong and hugely so. Buh bye. RB 35s5 NY |
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Don't forget folks it's fall. Every sailmaker in the world is looking
for business and a 25% discount is typical at this time of the year. |
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If anyone thought you
had an ounce of integrity you might actually sell something "Capt" Rob wrote Hey, man. It's your money. If you think I'm anything but totally professional outside of this forum you can contact my yard and see what they think of me. Funny you should say that. Early this year, a friend of mine wanted to buy a boat in your area and called this number you gave. When he mentioned getting you to take a look at the boat for him, the person answering the phone laughed. Maxprop wrote: That would be Mom, Grandma, Grandpa, and your sister, right? g Probably not, they laugh at him too. If Bubbles actually had a good deal to rpesent on sails, he could say something like "The sail loft I'm working with offers a basic quote of X $/sq-ft, call around and see if any others will beat that." Instead he just has more dumbo bluster. He'll probably say "bwahaha" at some point. There are a number of people in this forum who have bought sail in the recent past, and by their accounts have done well enough that they don't need advice from me on the topic; and certainly not advice Bubbles. DSK |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... If it makes no difference then why hide it? You don't have to divulge the Loft's name. It makes a difference to divulge it here...because this is troll world. This ends the discussion on this deal. I'm glad one person here will do well by it, besides me. Like your van thread, this is now a dead topic. Only direct e-mail on the topic and a phone call will get you more info. As to the rest of your guesses on profits, my profit and so on...all dead wrong and hugely so. Buh bye. RB 35s5 NY "Nonsense. There are bound to be issues. My van also had a noisy fuel pump. Kia replaced the WHOLE VAN. My Subaru ALSO had a noisy fuel pump. Took weeks to fix. My 2006 Sedona has been perfect after 5000 miles and we keep getting calls from Major Kia to make sure we're happy. Free oil changes too! My friend's 2005 Toyota Sienna has tranny and window problems. But even without those problems he prefers my Sedona because it's got a real engine in it. The poor Sienna can't get out of it's own way. Capt RB NY" Lies, all lies!!!! |
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Even you admit you are an ass in the forum. Who would do business with an ass. It is too bad you have lost your credibility. This is something you will never regain. Capt. Rob wrote: Hey, man. It's your money. If you think I'm anything but totally professional outside of this forum |
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Even you admit you are an ass in the forum. Who would do business with an ass. That's true, Bart....but we've spoken on the phone, have we not? I don't think either of us would say the other is an "ass" in the real world. You sounded like a nice guy, you told me of your superior sailing experience and I respected it all the way. If I had some kind of terrible rep, my yard would not keep me around. Those guys are Italian and take no crap. That's the real world. This is ASA and we all let off steam and blow smoke and so on. A few folks like Doug and Sloco grandstand and want to pretend that this is a "serious" forum for sailing. But you know as well as I do that there is little real traffic here with our small group of regulars. In 10 years I've been spotted by someone outside of ASA while doing business exactly one time. It didn't hurt the sale. Folks here troll plenty....but if Scotty could save me money on a camera, I'd take him up on it...if he offered. I know you have some kind of relationship with North. I also have one with Doyle. But this new deal is special and the quality is higher for less money. Turn-around may be slower, but reasonable for off season. If you really think I'm such a bad person in the real world, then forget it. No problem. I made the offer and that's that. I'm not making the sails or even measuring for them. I'm not even a middle man, in spite of Gilly's silly trolls. RB |
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"Capt" Rob wrote:
.... If you really think I'm such a bad person in the real world, then forget it. Of course we don't think you're a bad person. We just think that you must have a fairly serious psychological problem or you wouldn't act the way you do. .... I'm not making the sails or even measuring for them. That's good, considering that you apparently have no clue what the black bands are for. Don't forget... Bubbles, you're nuts! DSK |
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Liar!
http://www.northsails.dk/uk/3DL_Facts.asp No delamination lawsuit ever!!!!!!!! Just checked lexis-nexis. Liar!!!! |
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Gilligan wrote: Liar! http://www.northsails.dk/uk/3DL_Facts.asp No delamination lawsuit ever!!!!!!!! Just checked lexis-nexis. Liar!!!! North settled on delamination claims, Gilligan. They couldn't go to trial. Try a google search on the 3DL problems. Now try to imagine that no one sued. My friend did. His 3DL didn't even last a single season before delaminating. Want direct proof? E-mail me and I'll put you in contact with him. RB 35s5 NY |
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A few folks like Doug and Sloco grandstand .
Anybody else on the floor with the irony of this statement? |
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