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Bart October 17th 06 08:42 PM

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"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
"Capt" Rob wrote:
.... If you really
think I'm such a bad person in the real world, then forget it.


Of course we don't think you're a bad person. We just think that you must
have a fairly serious psychological problem or you wouldn't act the way
you do.



.... I'm not making the sails or
even measuring for them.


That's good, considering that you apparently have no clue what the black
bands are for.

Don't forget...
Bubbles, you're nuts!

DSK


We don't hate you Swabbie. We want you to get the proper
medication.



Bart October 17th 06 08:46 PM

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"Gilligan" wrote

"Swabbie Robbie" wrote

If it makes no difference then why hide it? You don't have to divulge
the
Loft's name.


It makes a difference to divulge it here...because this is troll world.
This ends the discussion on this deal. I'm glad one person here will do
well by it, besides me.
Like your van thread, this is now a dead topic. Only direct e-mail on
the topic and a phone call will get you more info. As to the rest of
your guesses on profits, my profit and so on...all dead wrong and
hugely so.

Buh bye.


Look like you guessed right Gilligan. Kinda reminds me of
Clinton when they DNA analysed the stain on the blue dress.
"I did not have sex with that woman!"

And, the little boy who dried wolf so many times, no one believes him
at all.




Bart October 17th 06 08:48 PM

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"Lloyd Bonifide" wrote in message
...
Does that loft realize the potential damage it is doing to its reputation
by associating with you?

I hope the owner searches USENET looking for your email address.

The abuse, lies, lies and more lies are well documented for all to see.

When you say:

"When you learn of the loft and sailmaker
involved, I think it'll erase any doubts."

You are the source of the doubts. Are you using the loft to try and
salvage your reputation? Sorry, it doesn't fly here. A decent man would
notify the loft of what you do here and on other forums and then they can
decide if they really want you as a front man.

Go climb back into your soiled bed - you made it!!

Lloyd Bonifide, sailing since before the Korean War.


Who coudl he be talking about? He makes city island
is home port. Could it be these guys?

Call them up and tell them he is driving away their business.

http://www.ukhalsey.com/lofts/ny/



Capt. JG October 17th 06 09:14 PM

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Well, mentally, Clinton is a teenager when it comes to sex. A high
percentage of teens don't believe oral sex is "sex." Strange, but true.

I find it very strange that even after all these years, Clinton bashing is
popular among some people. Seems to me we have a lot more problems, e.g.,
people dying for no reason in various parts of the world. Perhaps our
current president needs some criticism (maybe he's not getting any).

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bart" .@. wrote in message ...
"Gilligan" wrote

"Swabbie Robbie" wrote

If it makes no difference then why hide it? You don't have to divulge
the
Loft's name.


It makes a difference to divulge it here...because this is troll world.
This ends the discussion on this deal. I'm glad one person here will do
well by it, besides me.
Like your van thread, this is now a dead topic. Only direct e-mail on
the topic and a phone call will get you more info. As to the rest of
your guesses on profits, my profit and so on...all dead wrong and
hugely so.

Buh bye.


Look like you guessed right Gilligan. Kinda reminds me of
Clinton when they DNA analysed the stain on the blue dress.
"I did not have sex with that woman!"

And, the little boy who dried wolf so many times, no one believes him
at all.






katy October 17th 06 09:15 PM

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Ringmaster wrote:
A few folks like Doug and Sloco grandstand .

Anybody else on the floor with the irony of this statement?

I'm on the floor rolling in laughter at how ludicrous a claim it is....

Jeff October 17th 06 09:22 PM

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Capt. Rob wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
Liar!


North settled on delamination claims, Gilligan. They couldn't go to
trial. Try a google search on the 3DL problems. Now try to imagine that
no one sued. My friend did. His 3DL didn't even last a single season
before delaminating.
Want direct proof? E-mail me and I'll put you in contact with him.


When I googled all I got was a lot of praise for 3DL, along with some
comments that there were problems early on that were quickly fixed.
There were also comments about how the factory is backordered due to
high demand. And there was the thing about how North said they didn't
think 3DL was appropriate for the bulk order for J44 jibs because they
wouldn't last 5 years in hard service. They advised paneled kevlar.

You're turning into jaxie, making vague allegations, then claiming you
don't have time to provide a link.

katy October 17th 06 09:25 PM

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Subject: THE ABSOLUTE HELL OF POLITICS




While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a
truck and dies.

His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.
"Welcome
to Heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems there is a
problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, so we're not
sure
what to do with you."

"No problem, just let me in," says the man.

"Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is
have
you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to
spend eternity."

"Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says the senator.

"I'm sorry, but we have our rules."

And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down,
down,
down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a

green
golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it
are
all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.

Everyone is
very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand,
and
reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense
of
the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster,
caviar and champagne. Also present is the devil, who really is a very
friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are
having
such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go.

Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator

rises...

The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St.
Peter
is waiting for him.

"Now it's time to visit heaven." So, 24 hours pass with the senator
joining
a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp
and
singing. Things are serene and peaceful. It is all pleasant and before he
realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

"Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose
your eternity."
The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would never
have said it before,I mean heaven was verynice, but honestly it was a
little
too mild and boring. Not what I expected. And I think I would be better
off in hell."

So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to
hell.

Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren

land
covered with waste and garbage.

He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and

putting
it in black bags as more trash falls from above.

The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder.
"I don't understand," stammers the senator. "Yesterday I was here and
there
was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank
champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's jus t a wasteland
full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?"

The devil looks at him, smiles and says, "Yesterday we were
campaigning......today you voted












Gilligan October 17th 06 09:28 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Well, mentally, Clinton is a teenager when it comes to sex. A high
percentage of teens don't believe oral sex is "sex." Strange, but true.

I find it very strange that even after all these years, Clinton bashing is
popular among some people. Seems to me we have a lot more problems, e.g.,
people dying for no reason in various parts of the world. Perhaps our
current president needs some criticism (maybe he's not getting any).

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bart" .@. wrote in message ...
"Gilligan" wrote

"Swabbie Robbie" wrote

If it makes no difference then why hide it? You don't have to divulge
the
Loft's name.


It makes a difference to divulge it here...because this is troll world.
This ends the discussion on this deal. I'm glad one person here will do
well by it, besides me.
Like your van thread, this is now a dead topic. Only direct e-mail on
the topic and a phone call will get you more info. As to the rest of
your guesses on profits, my profit and so on...all dead wrong and
hugely so.

Buh bye.


Look like you guessed right Gilligan. Kinda reminds me of
Clinton when they DNA analysed the stain on the blue dress.
"I did not have sex with that woman!"

And, the little boy who dried wolf so many times, no one believes him
at all.





I thought Clinton was a vile President. He would sure be fun to go out
partying with though.



Gilligan October 17th 06 09:31 PM

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:55:35 -0600, "Gilligan"
said:

No delamination lawsuit ever!!!!!!!!

Just checked lexis-nexis.


And do you believe lexis/nexis reports every law suit ever commenced?


No, but it does not report law suits that never existed!




Gilligan October 17th 06 09:32 PM

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"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Capt. Rob wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
Liar!


North settled on delamination claims, Gilligan. They couldn't go to
trial. Try a google search on the 3DL problems. Now try to imagine that
no one sued. My friend did. His 3DL didn't even last a single season
before delaminating.
Want direct proof? E-mail me and I'll put you in contact with him.


When I googled all I got was a lot of praise for 3DL, along with some
comments that there were problems early on that were quickly fixed. There
were also comments about how the factory is backordered due to high
demand. And there was the thing about how North said they didn't think
3DL was appropriate for the bulk order for J44 jibs because they wouldn't
last 5 years in hard service. They advised paneled kevlar.

You're turning into jaxie, making vague allegations, then claiming you
don't have time to provide a link.


If found the 3DL sails received exceptional praise - universally.

No lawsuits over delamination.



Gilligan October 17th 06 09:33 PM

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:55:35 -0600, "Gilligan"
said:

No delamination lawsuit ever!!!!!!!!

Just checked lexis-nexis.


And do you believe lexis/nexis reports every law suit ever commenced?


What about lawsuits finished in court?

RB is full of BS!!!



Gilligan October 17th 06 09:37 PM

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"Bart" .@. wrote in message ...

"Lloyd Bonifide" wrote in message
...
Does that loft realize the potential damage it is doing to its reputation
by associating with you?

I hope the owner searches USENET looking for your email address.

The abuse, lies, lies and more lies are well documented for all to see.

When you say:

"When you learn of the loft and sailmaker
involved, I think it'll erase any doubts."

You are the source of the doubts. Are you using the loft to try and
salvage your reputation? Sorry, it doesn't fly here. A decent man would
notify the loft of what you do here and on other forums and then they can
decide if they really want you as a front man.

Go climb back into your soiled bed - you made it!!

Lloyd Bonifide, sailing since before the Korean War.


Who coudl he be talking about? He makes city island
is home port. Could it be these guys?

Call them up and tell them he is driving away their business.

http://www.ukhalsey.com/lofts/ny/

They said they certainly know Bubbles. Wouldn't admit to anything else.
Let's see what happens now.



Capt. Rob October 17th 06 09:52 PM

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When I googled all I got was a lot of praise for 3DL,


Try yahoo and you'll find delamination complaints even in 2005. It's my
belief (and several others) that 3DL has problems when sails are
subjected to temp. changes. I even found a thread with Sloco and a guy
who spent a lot on his 3DL's and ended up switching lofts.

RB
35s5
NY


Jeff October 17th 06 10:09 PM

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Capt. Rob wrote:
When I googled all I got was a lot of praise for 3DL,


Try yahoo and you'll find delamination complaints even in 2005. It's my
belief (and several others) that 3DL has problems when sails are
subjected to temp. changes. I even found a thread with Sloco and a guy
who spent a lot on his 3DL's and ended up switching lofts.


Perhaps you'll be so kind as to provide those links. My version of
Yahoo doesn't seem to show any problems.

Scotty October 18th 06 12:54 AM

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Ok, go ahead.


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...

Like I said, contact me if you're serious.




I am serious. Get me a quote.

I'd be more than happy to, but not in this forum. If

you're serious
then e-mail me and I'll get a quote on a tri-radial

cruising main with
two reef points. I'll give you the quote and contact info

for the loft.
If you don't like what you hear you can try another loft.


RB
35s5
NY




Scotty October 18th 06 01:22 AM

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Well, I personally am going to reserve judgment till I get a
quote for my main sail. I'll deal with the devil himself if
it will save me $5.

Scotty


"Lloyd Bonifide" wrote in message
...
Does that loft realize the potential damage it is doing to

its reputation by
associating with you?

I hope the owner searches USENET looking for your email

address.

The abuse, lies, lies and more lies are well documented

for all to see.

When you say:

"When you learn of the loft and sailmaker
involved, I think it'll erase any doubts."

You are the source of the doubts. Are you using the loft

to try and salvage
your reputation? Sorry, it doesn't fly here. A decent man

would notify the
loft of what you do here and on other forums and then they

can decide if
they really want you as a front man.

Go climb back into your soiled bed - you made it!!

Lloyd Bonifide, sailing since before the Korean War.






Ringmaster October 18th 06 01:28 AM

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The big problem with 3DL is that they can't be repaired like a paneled
sail.


Capt. Rob October 18th 06 01:35 AM

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Tried to send you a quote and it wouldn't go through.



RB


Scotty October 18th 06 02:01 AM

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try again.


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com..
..





Tried to send you a quote and it wouldn't go through.



RB




Capt. Rob October 18th 06 02:07 AM

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No worky. Tried to send via usenet as well.



RB


Gilligan October 18th 06 02:11 AM

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:14:05 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

even after all these years, Clinton bashing is
popular among some people. Seems to me we have a lot more problems, e.g.,
people dying for no reason in various parts of the world.


I've previously noted that one of the standard mantras of the left side of
the house, when a subject becomes uncomfortable, is "time to move on."
That's a rather verbose paraphrase of the mantra.


That's old news.



Gilligan October 18th 06 02:13 AM

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"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Capt. Rob wrote:
When I googled all I got was a lot of praise for 3DL,


Try yahoo and you'll find delamination complaints even in 2005. It's my
belief (and several others) that 3DL has problems when sails are
subjected to temp. changes. I even found a thread with Sloco and a guy
who spent a lot on his 3DL's and ended up switching lofts.


Perhaps you'll be so kind as to provide those links. My version of Yahoo
doesn't seem to show any problems.


He's lying.



Scotty October 18th 06 02:19 AM

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fraud !

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...

No worky. Tried to send via usenet as well.



RB




Capt. Rob October 18th 06 02:24 AM

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fraud !



Really, Scotty? Try 718-757-7114 and I'll take care of it. My phone is
right in front of me.



RB
35s5
NY


Scotty October 18th 06 02:35 AM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
fraud !



Really, Scotty? Try 718-757-7114 and I'll take care of it.

My phone is
right in front of me.



Do you accept collect calls?





Capt.Mooron October 18th 06 03:38 AM

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
fraud !



Really, Scotty? Try 718-757-7114 and I'll take care of it.

My phone is
right in front of me.



Do you accept collect calls?


No he won't... but you can bill to a third party ... :-)

CM-



Capt. JG October 18th 06 08:03 AM

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Yeah, he only tried to do good. I guess that makes him vile.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Well, mentally, Clinton is a teenager when it comes to sex. A high
percentage of teens don't believe oral sex is "sex." Strange, but true.

I find it very strange that even after all these years, Clinton bashing
is popular among some people. Seems to me we have a lot more problems,
e.g., people dying for no reason in various parts of the world. Perhaps
our current president needs some criticism (maybe he's not getting any).

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bart" .@. wrote in message ...
"Gilligan" wrote

"Swabbie Robbie" wrote

If it makes no difference then why hide it? You don't have to divulge
the
Loft's name.


It makes a difference to divulge it here...because this is troll
world.
This ends the discussion on this deal. I'm glad one person here will
do
well by it, besides me.
Like your van thread, this is now a dead topic. Only direct e-mail on
the topic and a phone call will get you more info. As to the rest of
your guesses on profits, my profit and so on...all dead wrong and
hugely so.

Buh bye.

Look like you guessed right Gilligan. Kinda reminds me of
Clinton when they DNA analysed the stain on the blue dress.
"I did not have sex with that woman!"

And, the little boy who dried wolf so many times, no one believes him
at all.





I thought Clinton was a vile President. He would sure be fun to go out
partying with though.




Capt. JG October 18th 06 08:03 AM

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Well, it is time to move on... we should start with Iraq.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:14:05 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

even after all these years, Clinton bashing is
popular among some people. Seems to me we have a lot more problems, e.g.,
people dying for no reason in various parts of the world.


I've previously noted that one of the standard mantras of the left side of
the house, when a subject becomes uncomfortable, is "time to move on."
That's a rather verbose paraphrase of the mantra.




Gilligan October 18th 06 01:19 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Yeah, he only tried to do good. I guess that makes him vile.



Ethics of Intentions
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

There is an ethical premise that holds the evaluation of actions by
the intentions of the actions. This idea is compatible with any standard of
value. It is the claim that the consequences of an action are not important
morally. Only the desired results.

If morality is a guide to living, it can only be so if the outcome of
action moral is in your interest. By claiming that only intentions matter,
ethics becomes useless. It is left strictly as a method of evaluating the
actions of others. It cannot act a a guide to your actions.

The Ethics of Intentions is derived from the understanding that people
who intend to harm will eventually succeed. It is a way of judging them evil
by the fact that they want to harm people, not that they do. But this is
faulty. It is the impending actions that are evil. The fact that the person
is malevolent implies they will take the actions. But it is the actions that
are destructive.

A newspaper article a few years ago portrayed a mother who had
murdered her young daughter. The mother had come to believe that the world
was a place of suffering, and happiness was impossible. She killed her
daughter in order to save her from the torment of living. Under the Ethics
of Intentions, she should be praised as a hero.


Copyright © 2001 by Jeff Landauer and Joseph Rowlands




Scotty October 18th 06 01:34 PM

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:PsgZg.27017$H7.17497@edtnps82...

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

ups.com...
fraud !



Really, Scotty? Try 718-757-7114 and I'll take care of

it.
My phone is
right in front of me.



Do you accept collect calls?


No he won't... but you can bill to a third party ... :-)



OK, what's your number ?






Capt. Rob October 18th 06 01:53 PM

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No he won't... but you can bill to a third party ... :-)



OK, what's your number ?



Looks like he has yours!



RB
35s5
NY


Martin Baxter October 18th 06 02:33 PM

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Ringmaster wrote:

A few folks like Doug and Sloco grandstand .

Anybody else on the floor with the irony of this statement?


Not really, I've become rather accustomed to Bob's duplicitous nature.
Who's the first guy too jump all over someone for selling stuff on the
group?

Who's the first one to say that people shouldn't criticize his "sailing"
style because it's an individual thing and there's no "right" way, and
then turns around a lambastes someone else's sailing operandi?

The list goes on nearly ad infinitum.

Cheers
Marty

Capt. JG October 18th 06 04:22 PM

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As opposed to starting a war for reasons that were untrue? As opposed to
listening in on millions of Americans? As opposed to supporting the removal
of Habeas Corpus?

If you're going to argue that Clinton was vile because he attempted to do
the right thing, what do you say about a bunch who lie, cheat, steal, and
prey on innoncents?????? My bet.. nothing. They're ok.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Yeah, he only tried to do good. I guess that makes him vile.



Ethics of Intentions
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

There is an ethical premise that holds the evaluation of actions by
the intentions of the actions. This idea is compatible with any standard
of value. It is the claim that the consequences of an action are not
important morally. Only the desired results.

If morality is a guide to living, it can only be so if the outcome of
action moral is in your interest. By claiming that only intentions matter,
ethics becomes useless. It is left strictly as a method of evaluating the
actions of others. It cannot act a a guide to your actions.

The Ethics of Intentions is derived from the understanding that
people who intend to harm will eventually succeed. It is a way of judging
them evil by the fact that they want to harm people, not that they do. But
this is faulty. It is the impending actions that are evil. The fact that
the person is malevolent implies they will take the actions. But it is the
actions that are destructive.

A newspaper article a few years ago portrayed a mother who had
murdered her young daughter. The mother had come to believe that the world
was a place of suffering, and happiness was impossible. She killed her
daughter in order to save her from the torment of living. Under the Ethics
of Intentions, she should be praised as a hero.


Copyright © 2001 by Jeff Landauer and Joseph Rowlands






Gilligan October 18th 06 04:39 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
As opposed to starting a war for reasons that were untrue?


Gulf of Tonkin?

As opposed to listening in on millions of Americans?


Hillary's FBI files?

As opposed to supporting the removal
of Habeas Corpus?


Vince Foster?



If you're going to argue that Clinton was vile because he attempted to do
the right thing


Clinton was vile because he did not do the right thing.


, what do you say about a bunch who lie, cheat, steal, and
prey on innoncents??????


Clinton lied, Clinton cheated on his wife, Clinton stole from the White
House, Clinton preyed on innocent women - some while their husbands were
dying!

Vile! Vile!! Vile man!!!


My bet.. nothing. They're ok.


Clinton is ok in your book?

Where he failed, he was ok because his intentions were good!

Where he suceeded it didn't matter what he did because the end justifies the
means!

The following statement is true
The preceeding statement is false.





Capt. JG October 18th 06 08:31 PM

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LBJ???? He's dead Jim.

Which file? There are so many!

Ah the Vince Foster conspiracy theory. I think the N. Koreans were in on
that one.

What right thing did Clinton not do?

Stole from the White House? That's a new one... what, pray tell, did he
steal?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
As opposed to starting a war for reasons that were untrue?


Gulf of Tonkin?

As opposed to listening in on millions of Americans?


Hillary's FBI files?

As opposed to supporting the removal
of Habeas Corpus?


Vince Foster?



If you're going to argue that Clinton was vile because he attempted to do
the right thing


Clinton was vile because he did not do the right thing.


, what do you say about a bunch who lie, cheat, steal, and
prey on innoncents??????


Clinton lied, Clinton cheated on his wife, Clinton stole from the White
House, Clinton preyed on innocent women - some while their husbands were
dying!

Vile! Vile!! Vile man!!!


My bet.. nothing. They're ok.


Clinton is ok in your book?

Where he failed, he was ok because his intentions were good!

Where he suceeded it didn't matter what he did because the end justifies
the means!

The following statement is true
The preceeding statement is false.







Gilligan October 18th 06 11:53 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
LBJ???? He's dead Jim.


I can give you impulse power but you can forget about the warp drive.


Which file? There are so many!


Can't see the forest for the trees!


Ah the Vince Foster conspiracy theory. I think the N. Koreans were in on
that one.


They were.


What right thing did Clinton not do?


Tell the truth under oath.



Stole from the White House? That's a new one... what, pray tell, did he
steal?


When they movedout. They actually had to return stuff.


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"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
As opposed to starting a war for reasons that were untrue?


Gulf of Tonkin?

As opposed to listening in on millions of Americans?


Hillary's FBI files?

As opposed to supporting the removal
of Habeas Corpus?


Vince Foster?



If you're going to argue that Clinton was vile because he attempted to
do the right thing


Clinton was vile because he did not do the right thing.


, what do you say about a bunch who lie, cheat, steal, and
prey on innoncents??????


Clinton lied, Clinton cheated on his wife, Clinton stole from the White
House, Clinton preyed on innocent women - some while their husbands were
dying!

Vile! Vile!! Vile man!!!


My bet.. nothing. They're ok.


Clinton is ok in your book?

Where he failed, he was ok because his intentions were good!

Where he suceeded it didn't matter what he did because the end justifies
the means!

The following statement is true
The preceeding statement is false.









Capt. JG October 19th 06 12:03 AM

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Oh, the blow job lie. I guess that's worse than near 3000 dead, thousands
more wounded, not to mention 10s of thousand of Iraqis dead and the whole
world hating us. You're right!

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
LBJ???? He's dead Jim.


I can give you impulse power but you can forget about the warp drive.


Which file? There are so many!


Can't see the forest for the trees!


Ah the Vince Foster conspiracy theory. I think the N. Koreans were in on
that one.


They were.


What right thing did Clinton not do?


Tell the truth under oath.



Stole from the White House? That's a new one... what, pray tell, did he
steal?


When they movedout. They actually had to return stuff.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
As opposed to starting a war for reasons that were untrue?

Gulf of Tonkin?

As opposed to listening in on millions of Americans?

Hillary's FBI files?

As opposed to supporting the removal
of Habeas Corpus?

Vince Foster?



If you're going to argue that Clinton was vile because he attempted to
do the right thing

Clinton was vile because he did not do the right thing.


, what do you say about a bunch who lie, cheat, steal, and
prey on innoncents??????

Clinton lied, Clinton cheated on his wife, Clinton stole from the White
House, Clinton preyed on innocent women - some while their husbands were
dying!

Vile! Vile!! Vile man!!!


My bet.. nothing. They're ok.

Clinton is ok in your book?

Where he failed, he was ok because his intentions were good!

Where he suceeded it didn't matter what he did because the end justifies
the means!

The following statement is true
The preceeding statement is false.











Gilligan October 19th 06 05:32 AM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Oh, the blow job lie. I guess that's worse than near 3000 dead, thousands
more wounded, not to mention 10s of thousand of Iraqis dead and the whole
world hating us. You're right!


The whole world doesn't hate us. The British, Australians, Canadians are
still loyal lap dogs and the rest of the world fears us.

I don't give a crap about dead Iraqis. Neither do you or you would be
thankful Hussien is gone.

American dead make me mad. I've always said from day 1 to nuke the ragheads.
It's less expensive and drives the point home..



Capt. JG October 19th 06 05:43 AM

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Fears and despises us. Just what we need to succeed in the war on terror.

I know you don't care about dead innocents. That's obvious. You're some
human being to say such a thing. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Oh, the blow job lie. I guess that's worse than near 3000 dead, thousands
more wounded, not to mention 10s of thousand of Iraqis dead and the whole
world hating us. You're right!


The whole world doesn't hate us. The British, Australians, Canadians are
still loyal lap dogs and the rest of the world fears us.

I don't give a crap about dead Iraqis. Neither do you or you would be
thankful Hussien is gone.

American dead make me mad. I've always said from day 1 to nuke the
ragheads. It's less expensive and drives the point home..




Capt.Mooron October 19th 06 12:10 PM

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"Gilligan" wrote in message

The whole world doesn't hate us.


Pretty much the whole world does hate the USA's international policy... yes.

The British, Australians, Canadians are
still loyal lap dogs and the rest of the world fears us.


I believe Canada told you where to get off the wagon on the Iraq invasion.


I don't give a crap about dead Iraqis. Neither do you or you would be
thankful Hussien is gone.


Saddam should have been left alone. Better the devil you know...


American dead make me mad. I've always said from day 1 to nuke the
ragheads. It's less expensive and drives the point home..


So what's it like to spend billions on a weapon you can never use?

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