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Ringmaster October 16th 06 06:35 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 
Can't imagine a 26' boat with 3 batteries. I guess you need that to
turn over the 50HP engine. Oh, and what kind of TVs are you carrying
46" rear projectors? Where do you put the sailbags?


Jeff October 16th 06 01:03 PM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 
Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article ,
Jeff wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:
If your radar is in working order, you're required to monitor it.

This is not really true. On most small boats the display is removed
and only mounted when needed. I don't believe you're required to set
it up all the time, and if its not mounted it is not "fitted and
operational." On the other hand, if you had it and the humidity was
high enough to make fog a possibility, it would be rather reckless to
not set it up.


Well, if it's not set up, then it's not in working order; therefore,
you don't have to (or can) monitor it. Did I miss something?


The point is that some people interpret the ColRegs as meaning you
have to run the radar all the time - this is not true on a small boat.
Also, there is no expectation that the formal plotting is done by
someone singlehanding.



I'd think twice about mounting it, but Jim leaves the mast up all
season, I think. As for the distance, if it isn't used much it isn't
a problem. There's certainly a lot of powerboats that have them
mounted a few feet over the helm.


My point, of course... :-)


Yes, I knew that would draw a comment!


It isn't necessary for offshore by any means. It's a big battery drain also.
I think you'd be better served by good charts, a good gps, good
watch-keeping, and cautious behavior.

I'd agree, but I doubt the battery drain issue is that big.


For a Mac26? Well, maybe not. :-)


My screen is 10 Watts, the dome on standby is 9 Watts, 28 on transmit.
So its about 3 Amps if run full time. Even a minimal battery should
be able to keep it going for 10 hours, and even the small alternator
on the engine is more than enough to cover it.


DSK October 16th 06 05:11 PM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 
Joe wrote:
He could, but it can be risky in spots. The question is why would you
want to if you can be aware of you are and whats around you.


You can be aware of where you are & what's around you
without radar. And I consider it desirable to use seamanship
instead of relying on an electronic toy.

All that said, radar can be a very handy tool.

DSK


Ellen MacArthur October 16th 06 05:17 PM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 

"DSK" wrote in
| All that said, radar can be a very handy tool.


Yeah, for a traffic cop....

Cheers,
Ellen

Ringmaster October 16th 06 10:54 PM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 
You must have some pretty old batteries, Sloco. Are any of the
cells completely dead?

Mr. Charles, From this comment I can only assume you didn't comprehend
my post.


Capt. Rob October 17th 06 12:12 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 

Ringmaster wrote:
How many batteries does a MAC 26 carry? More than one would be too
many and one would not be enough for radar.




It's just amazing what a bitter jealous dude Sloco is. The M26 can
certainly carry and extra battery with no problem! Two batteries will
handle a radar with little problem. I had a far less power stingy radar
on my C&C and it worked fine with two group 27s on the 3-4 days of
sailing and also part time running the fridge. We did not operate it
all the time because that's just stupid and I don't know any pleasure
sailboat that does. Use it when you need it. It will work fine on your
boat and will be fun to use. Ours came in very handy showing T-storms
approaching and we'll install a new one on our 35s5 for Spring. As far
as I know Sloco has no radar at all, but he does fly a trisymetrical
uniradial Twinky-Fibre 177% genoa with a leech line made from real
leech intenstines. He got 51% off and only paid 12.5K for it!

RB
35s5
NY


Jonathan Ganz October 17th 06 12:58 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 
In article ,
Jeff wrote:
The point is that some people interpret the ColRegs as meaning you
have to run the radar all the time - this is not true on a small boat.
Also, there is no expectation that the formal plotting is done by
someone singlehanding.


Ah... I figured that's what you figured... yo'ure right of course.

I'd think twice about mounting it, but Jim leaves the mast up all
season, I think. As for the distance, if it isn't used much it isn't
a problem. There's certainly a lot of powerboats that have them
mounted a few feet over the helm.


My point, of course... :-)


Yes, I knew that would draw a comment!


:-)

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Ringmaster October 17th 06 01:59 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 
It's just amazing what a bitter jealous dude Sloco is. The M26 can
certainly carry and extra battery with no problem!

You ass, your just as dumb as Mr. Charles. I could care less how many
batteries a 26 foot boat CAN carry. My point was why. What 26 foot
boat bopping around a bay needs 3 big heavy batteries and a friking
radar dome half way up it's 30' mast. As always your mouth is ahead of
your little brain.


Capt. Rob October 17th 06 02:32 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 

I mean other than the fog your were born with, of
course!




HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA! BWAHAHAHAHHHAHAHA!
LOL!



RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob October 17th 06 02:42 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 

I could care less how many
batteries a 26 foot boat CAN carry. My point was why. What 26 foot
boat bopping around a bay needs 3 big heavy batteries

A quick look online shows that plenty of Mac26's have two batteries and
that's all he'll need. And you're a jealous bitter idiot.

and a friking
radar dome half way up it's 30' mast.


Because he wants and can afford one. Because he wants to learn how to
use one. Because he wants the extra measure of safety radar afford.
Because it will function half way up the 30 foot mast just fine. It's
HIS boat, Sloco. Can you deal with that?
I guess not.


RB
35s5
NY



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