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DSK October 16th 06 12:13 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 
This might do the job if I was in those parts of the channel in which I
could duck out beyond the buoys a few feet. With the daggerboard
partially down I draw around 3 feet.




Joe wrote:
At 3 feet you not very restricted at all... and should be able to
shadow the channel it's full length.


Hmm, seems to me another poster said this too, and you
jumped all over him like Bubbles going after a cheeseburger!

Which is it, Joe? Can he avoid the commercial traffic part
of the channel, using his shallow draft, or can't he?

DSK


Joe October 16th 06 12:24 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 

DSK wrote:
This might do the job if I was in those parts of the channel in which I
could duck out beyond the buoys a few feet. With the daggerboard
partially down I draw around 3 feet.




Joe wrote:
At 3 feet you not very restricted at all... and should be able to
shadow the channel it's full length.


Hmm, seems to me another poster said this too, and you
jumped all over him like Bubbles going after a cheeseburger!


He could, but it can be risky in spots. The question is why would you
want to if you can be aware of you are and whats around you.

Which is it, Joe? Can he avoid the commercial traffic part
of the channel, using his shallow draft, or can't he?


Not all together, several intersections and channels he will have to
cross, from here to the gulf you have the Texas city channel, Pelican
island cut, ICW, Galveston and Boliver channels he would have to cross.
Plus in the jetties it's best to stay on the deeper water to avoid
rollers.

Joe

DSK



JimC October 16th 06 01:29 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 


Joe wrote:

DSK wrote:


He could, but it can be risky in spots. The question is why would you
want to if you can be aware of you are and whats around you.

Which is it, Joe? Can he avoid the commercial traffic part
of the channel, using his shallow draft, or can't he?



Not all together, several intersections and channels he will have to
cross, from here to the gulf you have the Texas city channel, Pelican
island cut, ICW, Galveston and Boliver channels he would have to cross.
Plus in the jetties it's best to stay on the deeper water to avoid
rollers.

Joe

DSK



I would feel more confident skirting the channel in poor visability if I
was on the leeward side of the channel. On the windward side, I would
have to watch the chartreader screen and buoys pretty carefully.

Jim

Joe October 16th 06 01:49 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 

JimC wrote:
Joe wrote:

DSK wrote:


He could, but it can be risky in spots. The question is why would you
want to if you can be aware of you are and whats around you.

Which is it, Joe? Can he avoid the commercial traffic part
of the channel, using his shallow draft, or can't he?



Not all together, several intersections and channels he will have to
cross, from here to the gulf you have the Texas city channel, Pelican
island cut, ICW, Galveston and Boliver channels he would have to cross.
Plus in the jetties it's best to stay on the deeper water to avoid
rollers.

Joe

DSK



I would feel more confident skirting the channel in poor visability if I
was on the leeward side of the channel. On the windward side, I would
have to watch the chartreader screen and buoys pretty carefully.

Jim


What bothers me about that is all the bars that build and the roller
wakes the ship throw, many people surf the wakes. Plus nothing worse
than being aground just outta the channel, If you head straight out of
Kemah towards Trinity bay has some of the best surfing in the state on
the eastern side of the channel, that and just north of Morgans point,
around RedFish, and Pelican Isaland has so shallows with rolling wakes.
Not sure if you want to be hit on your mac with a 13 Kt roller.

Best to keep out of the channel area in Fog without Radar, and working
with traffic. I'll never do it again...I swear! With a radar, and
working with traffic control it's a breeze.

Did you read my story in Sail Magazine "Fetching RedCloud" ?

Joe


Ringmaster October 16th 06 02:45 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 
How many batteries does a MAC 26 carry? More than one would be too
many and one would not be enough for radar.


[email protected] October 16th 06 03:48 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 
How many batteries does a MAC 26 carry?

Hey "Ringmaster" my MAC26 M... carries a toal of three (3). I
have one dedicated to the Honda 50... plus two (2) for the "house"
batteries. I also have some sort of a "throw switch" that can change
the configuration... of what does what. :-)

Best regards

Bill


JimC October 16th 06 04:42 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 


wrote:

How many batteries does a MAC 26 carry?



Hey "Ringmaster" my MAC26 M... carries a toal of three (3). I
have one dedicated to the Honda 50... plus two (2) for the "house"
batteries. I also have some sort of a "throw switch" that can change
the configuration... of what does what. :-)

Best regards

Bill


I have two, plus a rechargeable backup for powering the TV, or for
emergencies. Guess that makes three also.

Jim


JimC October 16th 06 04:44 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 


Joe wrote:

JimC wrote:

Joe wrote:


DSK wrote:


He could, but it can be risky in spots. The question is why would you
want to if you can be aware of you are and whats around you.


Which is it, Joe? Can he avoid the commercial traffic part
of the channel, using his shallow draft, or can't he?


Not all together, several intersections and channels he will have to
cross, from here to the gulf you have the Texas city channel, Pelican
island cut, ICW, Galveston and Boliver channels he would have to cross.
Plus in the jetties it's best to stay on the deeper water to avoid
rollers.

Joe


DSK

I would feel more confident skirting the channel in poor visability if I
was on the leeward side of the channel. On the windward side, I would
have to watch the chartreader screen and buoys pretty carefully.

Jim



What bothers me about that is all the bars that build and the roller
wakes the ship throw, many people surf the wakes. Plus nothing worse
than being aground just outta the channel, If you head straight out of
Kemah towards Trinity bay has some of the best surfing in the state on
the eastern side of the channel, that and just north of Morgans point,
around RedFish, and Pelican Isaland has so shallows with rolling wakes.
Not sure if you want to be hit on your mac with a 13 Kt roller.

Best to keep out of the channel area in Fog without Radar, and working
with traffic. I'll never do it again...I swear! With a radar, and
working with traffic control it's a breeze.

Did you read my story in Sail Magazine "Fetching RedCloud" ?

Joe


I haven't read your article. What month's issue is that?

Jim

Jonathan Ganz October 16th 06 05:34 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 
In article ,
Jeff wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:
If your radar is in working order, you're required to monitor it.


This is not really true. On most small boats the display is removed
and only mounted when needed. I don't believe you're required to set
it up all the time, and if its not mounted it is not "fitted and
operational." On the other hand, if you had it and the humidity was
high enough to make fog a possibility, it would be rather reckless to
not set it up.


Well, if it's not set up, then it's not in working order; therefore,
you don't have to (or can) monitor it. Did I miss something?

I'd think twice about mounting it, but Jim leaves the mast up all
season, I think. As for the distance, if it isn't used much it isn't
a problem. There's certainly a lot of powerboats that have them
mounted a few feet over the helm.


My point, of course... :-)

It isn't necessary for offshore by any means. It's a big battery drain also.
I think you'd be better served by good charts, a good gps, good
watch-keeping, and cautious behavior.


I'd agree, but I doubt the battery drain issue is that big.


For a Mac26? Well, maybe not. :-)
--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Jonathan Ganz October 16th 06 05:35 AM

Radar necessary, recommended?
 
In article .com,
Ringmaster wrote:
How many batteries does a MAC 26 carry? More than one would be too
many and one would not be enough for radar.


It would be enough for a short time. :-)


--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com




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