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DSK wrote:
And in the course of everyday life taken a turn for the
worse, what possible scenario requires a 30 round clip?



Joe wrote:
A pack of 3-4 kick in burglers..multi intruders ect. Houston ever
since Katrina has had a rash of violent gang type murders robberies.


If you shoot one & he falls dead to the floor, the others
will almost certainly start running like hell. I don't know
about Texas, but here one cannot claim self-defense after
shooting people in the back.


Here you have a right to use deadly force to protect life and property.



If you shoot one & he falls dead to the floor, and the
others start shooting at you, then you shot the wrong one.


Again at night, it's dark and the door has been forced open (with
Skipper barking like crazy Terry yelling and me yelling I' going to
shoot) I'm going to start blasting in the general direction (taking
care not to hit the Newmar breaker panel) and steadyup on target later.
I would be very aggressive I assure you. The rash of kick in burglers
have shown they are very willing to kill.

And you still have 6 bullets left, so as long as they're not
very good shots (which most crooks aren't) you still have as
much chance as when you started.


First off I have easy access to 6 other 30 rd clips, I would have all
the chances I need ;0)


.... If
you can't solve the problem with eight bullets (or more
realistically, just two in the right place) then you
obviously ****ed up really *really* bad.



Not so, and if someone boards the boat in the middle of the night, it
might take me 3-4 rounds to get on target. The person ****in up is the
one forcing entry ect.


Agreed, but *you* ****ed up too... by parking in that
neighborhood.

Some of the recent high profile Katrina murders here in Houston are in
some very affluent neighborhoods. One of the many M.O.'s if following
housewifes home from the grocery store or bank and assulting them in
the driveways, ransacking the house, while one goes to the ATM and
emptys the bank accounts.


... Last time someone boarded my boat in the middle
of the night it was 3 people.


So? With an eight round clip that gives you two extra
bullets. Joe, you need to make friends with some law
enforcement types & get in some time with rigorous
double-tapping drills.


That would be fun, the best marine shop in the yard the owner is into
shooting big time, re-loads, ect. Has a rifle range in the shop. He
lets me shoot any time after hours, good place to sight in the scope on
the .22 when the rat population get outta hand.


More cops carry Glocks than any other auto


I have only looked at a few and that was years ago, I was
not impressed and don't like DA autos anyway. But it could
well be that the Glock is a super utility weapon, but it
could also be that it is aggressively marketed to the right
purchasing agencies.


Assault tupperware. The 10mm is nice, 1.4lbs with a full 19 rd clip
IIRC.
I don't care for them either.


DSK


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If you shoot one & he falls dead to the floor, the others
will almost certainly start running like hell. I don't know
about Texas, but here one cannot claim self-defense after
shooting people in the back.



Joe wrote:
Here you have a right to use deadly force to protect life and property.


Same here. In fact, NC has a very strong freeholder law, you
can shoot people on your property. However, it would be very
very difficult to justify shooting somebody in the back on
the basis that you were protecting yourself, your family, or
your property. If they're running away, they're not
threatening you.




Again at night, it's dark and the door has been forced open (with
Skipper barking like crazy Terry yelling and me yelling I' going to
shoot) I'm going to start blasting in the general direction (taking
care not to hit the Newmar breaker panel) and steadyup on target later.
I would be very aggressive I assure you. The rash of kick in burglers
have shown they are very willing to kill.


It's been a problem here too, mostly crack-heads. Comes &
goes in waves, usually the spree comes to an ending with one
of the gang getting killed or several of them sent to the
state pea farm for a long long time.

A stun grenade would probably be the best weapon against
them, you could set one off by remote, then just bop them
over the head while they were helpless. Less expensive and
doesn't damage the furniture.

DSK

 
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